Peyton Hillis

[Westside]

Mark my words this malcontent Harrison is going to whine non stop and become a distraction. Then out of nowhere allege racism for his rightly demished role. TNB

 

[Don Wassall]

Here's another good quote from a Raven, Trevor Pryce (who has since been cut and signed by the Jets):

Defensive end Trevor Pryce said Hillis didn't just use his size to his advantage.



"He's a big back, but I don't think people understand that he's a fast back," Pryce said. "As big as he is, once you get 250 pounds rolling fast, it's hard to stop that train. He was able to get a full head of steam, and once you get a full head of steam, he wins. And we didn't tackle very well. But we'll get it fixed."


Acquired with a pair of draft picks from the Denver Broncos for quarterback Brady Quinn, Hillis leads Cleveland in rushing yards (220) and touchdowns (three). "I always have to believe in myself, that I can have a big game," Hillis said. "Throughout my past, no one ever gave me much of a shot to do anything individually." It's fair to say Hillis made quite an impression on the Ravens, who next meet Rashard Mendenhall and the Pittsburgh Steelers. But linebacker Ray Lewis said the defense will improve.
full article: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-09-26/sports/bs-sp-ravens-notebook-0927-20100926_1_trevor-pryce-ravens-m-t-bank-stadium

 

[white lightning]

Watching Peyton Hillis run just gets me so pumped up. He is a human wrecking ball yet he has speed and agility to go with it. A complet running back. All of us here know there are many more like him and Gerhart. The racist NFL just needs to let these guys play. It will make the league more exciting and also bring in more fans. It's a win/win situation. Just watch how many Hillis Jerseys are sold if he goes over 1000 yards this year. Now if they can only get some talent around him. He can't do it all by himself. They need a better qb and some additional recievers.

Hey Cleveland. Why don't you pick up Matt Jones. He would be the Hillis of receivers. He just needs a chance to start!

 

[whiteathlete33]

Harrison is only 205lbs so he really doesn't have the strength to get through the piles. He isn't overly elusive either so of course he's going to struggle. Hillis is the complete package. What bothers me though is that the media keeps referring to Hillis as a "hybrid" back. He's a power back with excellent speed. Can't they refer to him that way?

 

[Jack Lambert]

Good job Rotoworld, you a$$holes.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Tony Grossi calls Peyton Hillis the "flavor of the week" in the Browns' backfield.

There's no reason to believe that Jerome Harrison will turn this back into a committee attack any time soon, but Hillis also has no history of sustained success as a feature back. Hillis is unlikely to top his Week 3 production again this season, so sell high this week if there's still time. Dynasty leaguers, especially, shouldn't be banking on Hillis as the starter beyond 2010.

Edited by: Jack Lambert

 

[whiteathlete33]

Jack, I saw that this morning but I didn't bother posting it. It's just a ridiculous statement from a website that makes plenty of them.

 

[white is right]

He has never been given an opportunity to sustain his success, either through injury or relegation to a back up role. I think he is a hybrid back but has more value in a position where he will receive more touches. It really doesn't matter to me if he is officially listed as a fullback or tailback. Riggins when he lined up in the one back double tight end set in Washington was still listed as a fullback. When he Riggins lined up in a two back set with Joe Washington he was still listed as the fullback too. Edited by: white is right

 

[Electric Slide]

Better comment from Bleacher Report:

Fantasy Football Week 4 Start 'Em: Peyton Hillis, RB, Cleveland Browns
By
Sam Westmoreland
(Correspondent) on October 1, 2010

I still don't get why the Broncos traded Hillis. He's a big, powerful runner, with decent speed and solid receiving chops in the flat.

He was a sleeper pick as a goal line back prior to the season, but after last week's gashing of the Ravens' vaunted run defense, he's a full-fledged fantasy running back. The Bengals' run defense is pretty reliable, but so was Baltimore's. Play him with confidence.

 

[TwentyTwo]

NO DOUBT the chumps atRoto-rooters have an agenda...I guess we should not be banking on Mike Vick & Vince Young as Starters beyond 2010 either huh... I don't read those buffoons..they make my blood boil!

BTW..had Hillis already in FFL! Will be starting vs Bengals! It's a shame the Browns are 0-3..losing close games...that needs to change...Jake Delhomme comes back..will he be 100%

One things also for sure...the Super Bowl Chmp Saints miss LB Scott Fujita...don't know what you have til he's gone dwf's! He literally was like an extra coach on the field..under-rated as an athlete at 6'-5" 250!Edited by: TwentyTwo

 

[whiteathlete33]

Hillis is in a rare position for white athletes. He's one of the few white players who played fullback in high school and college. He wasn't a tailback in high school and then converted to fullback. That's some good stuff.

 

[snow]

I thought he played tailback in high school?

I think with the recent success of Hillis that article that Chitwood wrote comparing Hillis to Wells should be bumped up, somewhere on the front page. Maybe people searching for Hillis after dominating in the NFL will look him up and find that article and question why he was stuck as a blocker for Arkansas. They both had similar high school careers.
Edited by: snow

 

[whiteathlete33]

I thought he played tailback in high school?

I think with the recent success of Hillis that article that Chitwood wrote comparing Hillis to Wells should be bumped up, somewhere on the front page. Maybe people searching for Hillis after dominating in the NFL will look him up and find that article and question why he was stuck as a blocker for Arkansas. They both had similar high school careers.

He was a fullback in high school. Wikipedia could be wrong though.

 

[Don Wassall]

I think with the recent success of Hillis that article that Chitwood wrote comparing Hillis to Wells should be bumped up, somewhere on the front page. Maybe people searching for Hillis after dominating in the NFL will look him up and find that article and question why he was stuck as a blocker for Arkansas. They both had similar high school careers.

Good idea! I've posted it as a sticky in the NFL Forum and will re-post on the homepage.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Rob Konrad was another great back who was screwed and forced into the fullback role. He could have been a featured back in the NFL for many years and would have been quite successful. Luckily, Hillis has been given an opportunity again due to injuries and the fact that he's the best back on the Browns. Rotoworld is already predicting he won't be the starting back next year and the Browns will look for other options in the draft or free agency.

 

[Don Wassall]

Questions about Hillis and Eric Mangini's answers at his press conference today:

(On if Peyton Hillis" running style reminds him of any other running backs)- "Not one that just jumps off the chart for me. I hadn't really thought of it that way to tell you the truth."

(On if Peyton Hillis is in line for a short career because of his position with collisions)- "How long did (John) Riggins play? Did he get 12? I don't really think he is an upright runner. I think a lot of times one of the things he does really well is lower his shoulder on contact and drive forward. Often times he is the guy that's delivering the blow. You see some upright runners where they just get tattooed because they don't ever lower their shoulders, they don't get that leverage going forward and those hits tend to add up more quickly. Where with Peyton I think it's different because a lot of times he is the one applying force, applying leverage. He does have pretty good short area quickness for a guy his size where he can makes some people miss. I think it's more apparent in the passing game where your catching some of those balls out in the flat makes the guy miss. He's got that as well which is a little deceptive based on his size."



(On if Hillis will last more than five years)- "I don't know what the numbers will be but it's only been three games so he's got a ways to go to get there."


(On what happened with Hillis last year in Denver)- "I wasn't there and they drafted a guy number one and they either traded for a guy or signed for a free agent. Sometimes you just get numbers and it just happens that way. Sometimes guys get pegged as being a fullback instead of a tailback and that's where you end up getting your work so you don't end up carrying the ball that much. In the year prior to that I think when he was getting a lot of carries he ended up getting hurt so he didn't really get the volume of carries that maybe he would have gotten which could have solidified his role as a tailback."
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/10/cleveland_browns_coach_eric_ma_20.html

 

[white is right]

This sounds like Mangini actually has a brain in his head. It sounds fairly reasonable and hints that he thinks Hillis is a running fullback/tailback and to use him exclusively as blocking fullback would be a waste of his talents. Edited by: white is right

 

[Electric Slide]

This sounds like Mangini actually has a brain in his head. It sounds fairly reasonable and hints that he thinks Hillis is a running fullback/tailback and to use him exclusively as blocking fullback would be a waste of his talents.

From all accounts it looks like Hillis is a feature tailback who can run on any down and block and catch on 3rd down. Other than Shannon Sharpe, it doesn't appear that anyone is applying the fullback label to Hillis like John Riggins had. This is especially apparent since Lawrence Vickers is a key fullback in the offense.

Hillis is breaking the chains and literally ushering in a new era where big fast white backs like Leonard, Gerhart, and Hillis will feature prominently in the NFL. Meanwhile Danny Woodhead is showing how short(er) explosive white running backs like himself, and guys like Jake Sharpe and Sam McGuffie will have a significant NFL role.

I think guys like Rex Burkhead will be the in between types who will serve as solid running backs who can both make moves carrying the ball and catch out of the backfield, with not necessarily as big play-making ability as the smaller backs, but still have a decent YPC.

 

[GWTJ]

Another Rotoworld gem trying to keep Jerome Harrison in the mix. It is just killing them that Hillis is the #1 back:


Browns OC Brian Daboll reiterated coach Eric Mangini's prediction Friday that Peyton Hillis will continue to be the team's feature back.

Daboll is the Browns' playcaller, so his word means even more than Mangini's in a situation like this. "If Peyton is running the ball well, we're going to keep giving it to him," said Daboll. Daboll did guard his statement by saying "If one of those guys (also Jerome Harrison) early gets into a rhythm, you keep feeding him." Hillis clearly has the hot hand. He's a recommended bye-week RB2 play in Week 4 against Cincinnati.


The Browns have Hillis listed as their RB1 on their website but try and find a FF website that lists Hillis as the RB1. The only site I found that did was FantasySharks.com.

The hate these fantasy sites have for Hillis is disgusting.

Edited by: GWTJ

 

[Colonel_Reb]

I wish I had been able to get Hillis in the fantasy draft. I was close. Hillis is a great back, and I'm glad he's getting another chance to shine. Let's hope the opportunity lasts and that he makes the most of it.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Colonel, are you in the Riggins League?

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Yeah, I'm in the Riggins League.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

<a href="http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=34422" target="_blank">
the one about Peyton Hillis' skills in red rover, red rover.</A>

If Peyton Hillis is out there trucking over linebackers and safties at 24-years of age, it is a safe assumption that the linked arms of his peers roughly 10-to-15 years ago would have provided little to no challenge. Well, at least in the eyes of Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan"¦


"He's a fullback that can tote the ball,"Â￾ said Ryan on Friday afternoon. "He gets tougher when he's got the ball under his arm and I bet he was a [b!@&amp;$] in red rover, red rover."Â￾


Excllent references, that Rob Ryan.


When asked who from the NFL record books he would compare Hillis to, Ryan dropped names like Larry Czonka, Earl Campbell, and Mike Alstott. Hillis allegedly haunted the dreams of Ryan back when both players were in the AFC West due to the mismatches that the big-bodied running back provides.


Two plays which are fresh in Ryan's mind both resulted in Hillis running over a defensive player; Lawyer Milloy was the first victim with Michael Huff being the second. Huff's play resulted in the would-be tackler leaving the game with a broken shoulder.


"Kill the guy with the ball?"Â￾ asked Ryan. "Â￾He's out there collecting his own hides. He's fun to watch, God he is."Â￾


Needless to say, when partaking in recess on a Conway, Arkansas playground, every time Hillis was summoned to "come over,"Â￾ he did not spend much time joining the opposition. The current status of the other children's arms, however, remains to be seen.


Is "detached"Â￾ an option?

awesome!

Edited by: Jimmy Chitwood

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

I thought he played tailback in high school?

I think with the recent success of Hillis that article that Chitwood wrote comparing Hillis to Wells should be bumped up, somewhere on the front page. Maybe people searching for Hillis after dominating in the NFL will look him up and find that article and question why he was stuck as a blocker for Arkansas. They both had similar high school careers.

He was a fullback in high school. Wikipedia could be wrong though.

Hillis was a "fullback" in high school like all White running backs are "fullbacks" in college and the NFL. regardless of what he was actually called, he was Conway High's featured running back. he received every honor possible for a high school football player (including Parade All-American and the Landers Award, given to the best player in the state)but has been screwed repeatedly throughout his post-high school career. hopefully, the Browns will continue to recognize his phenomenal talents and utilize him as they should.

go Peyton Hillis!

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Ha ha! Good stuff!

 

[Westside]

White running backs with the skill set of a Hillis, Gerhart or Leonard should make it a point to advise the media via their head coaches that they are not fullbacks, if they are halfbacks or tailbacks. This will kinda of "nip it in bud" of the castization of talented white running backs while in college.