arab influence in real madrid

[frederic38]

Jose Mourinho is no doubt watching the performances of his two main forwards - Ronaldo and Benzema. Talk about a contrast.

ronaldo without benzema is the best player of the tournament
benzema without ronaldo is the biggest flop of the euro champs
for those who were saying that a lot of ronaldo's goals were scored because of benzema icon_rolleyes and that ronaldo wouldn't be at 46 goals in la liga without benzema icon_rolleyes

real madrid is the biggest club in europe, when a player does something like this, he's dead
i know that the president wants him to be popular in the middle east, and it allowed him to get much more patience than the other players, but they can't act like he is good anymore, he has been exposed

 

[John]

I think that Real Madri's pursuit of creating a "galactico" squad with overrated bums like Robinho and Benzema is a stupid strategy. A lot of great young players played for Real Madrid's youth side, like Juan Mata, Alvaro Negredo, and Roberto Soldado, but they got rid of them and they're prospering at other clubs.

 

[frederic38]

unfortunately italy also buys a lot of arab players now

there was the absolutely useless jamel mesbah from ac milan
the living caricature el shaarawy from ac milan too (the future of the italian national team)
benatia from udinese....ect ect

just a few hours ago, ac milan bought 14 years old "prodigy" of moroccan origin, Hachim Mastour
yes, ac milan will sell a lot of jerseys in the middle-east and they will watch their matches there, that's for sure
but they won't win champions league with caricatural arab players


like real madrid, they have a park in the middle east, although less ambitious:

the cross seems to still be on the logo of the club:

but no cross on the logo of the park:

ac milan already has "emirates" as a sponsor:

 

[frederic38]

the italian league is being infested by arab players

-ac milan: djamel mesbah, el shaarawy, and the arab teenager they bought, Hachim Mastour
in addition they buy a lot of absolutely USELESS black players from french ligue 1 like kevin constant, bakaye traore, and it's not over yet
this could be because of aubameyang's father (who's black) , who works as a scout for ac milan and knows only french ligue 1
there are a lot of players who came from french ligue 1 in ac milan (remember taiwo, flamini, gourcuff, mexes, ect ect)

-fiorentina: they bought 21 years old ahmed hegazy, and mounir el hamdaoui
they also have 3 players from ghana

-udinese have mehdi benatia and a lot of african blacks

there are tons or arab players who are rumored to move to italy

these arab players are extremely annoying

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by the way i checked an old magazine i have from the 2000-2001 season in spain
i wanted to see how many arab/muslim players they had back then

they had 5
2 turks, 2 morrocan inmigrants to spain and nourredine naybet

today i don't know how many they are in spain, but well over 5, that's for sure, in real madrid they have more than 5 already
and the number of morrocan inmigrants didn't increase in the teams, they imported arabs from france like feghouli, benzema, rami....
the arab "play maker" younes belhanda is rumored to leave montpellier, if he leaves he will go either to italy or spain, pretty sure about that

 

[frederic38]

in spain everybody was shocked at how benzema failed during the euro champs
as a result, it seems that higuain will stay and try to be the number 1 striker
as i said, mourinho will probably still use benzema, but more as a winger, like he did with etoo in internazionale

here is the cover of "marca", newspaper about real madrid and football :

it says that higuain will try to take benzema's place

meanwhile, benzema will probably be nominated for the golden ball
which is ridiculous because he is usueless
the french media tries to hype him to sell their newspapers, but i also learnt that in other countries they also act like benzema had a fantastic season and did better than higuain

i already showed that french newspaper "l'equipe" said that unlike ronaldo, benzema did not choke in the big matches
that is so untrue, that actually one can say that this season benzema didn't score any important goal for real madrid

the most important matches of the season for real madrid were:

*on the 29th of october, real sociedad vs real madrid: it was the match in which real madrid took the lead in the spanish league, a difficult 1-0 win abroad, the only goal of the match was scored by higuain - not the prettiest goal, but an important one: http://youtu.be/yPvx7NVtCNY

*on the 17th of december, against sevilla, after a 3-1 defeat against real madrid, so a very important match: ronaldo scored 3 goals and was the man of the match

*on the 21st of april, against barcelona: it was the most important match in their season, and ronaldo scored one of the 2 goals and was the man of the match, benzema didn't score

*then the victory against athletic bilbao where they won the title officially: higuain scored the first goal, a very beautiful one: http://youtu.be/W5BT2XG30Dg

*in champions league, benzema failed to score in both legs of the quarter finals against bayern munchen, and higuain didn't play more than 10 minutes each match
real madrid lost (ronaldo scored though)


higuain on the other hand, has scored some of the most important goals in real madrid history (recent history at least), that's why he's more popular with the fans than benzema
the propaganda about benzema says that higuain chokes in the big matches, but it's not true

for example this goal in the 200-2009 season, he scored twice in the biggest match, where real madrid was forced to win to keep hopes to win the league (they didn't manage to win the league despite this victory), including this goal in the lasts seconds of the game while the match was tied:

[video=youtube_share;OseCiNpKtRs]http://youtu.be/OseCiNpKtRs[/video]
this goal is considered the most important and beautiful goal in real madrid's (recent) history

he also scored the goal that allowed real madrid to win the league in 2007-2008:
http://youtu.be/DgmvrqI3yIo

there is also a stat from this season about how many points benzema's goals allowed real madrid to win:
benzema's goals alowed real madrid to win 7 points, and higuain's goals 16
http://www.le-sport-et-moi.net/inde...bataille-de-chiffres-&catid=19:news&Itemid=14

and he did this while playing less than benzema (more than 500 minutes difference) and still managed to score more than benzema
higuain scored 1 goal every 70 minutes, that's one of the bests ratio in europe


another ridiculous thing that i read is that benzema fights more while higuain just stays in the penalty area, waiting for an oportunity
that's also false
that's exactly what was said about benzema actually, he was very criticised because he said that he was not here to defend, and that he was only interested in scoring goals

here are some goals that higuain created himself:

http://youtu.be/CC-_EtiP9Ek (another legendary goal for higuain, a very important one)

http://youtu.be/t1x4xr3TZDo

http://youtu.be/hc1JDwUbny4

a spanish pundit said that higuain wouldn't have spent 4 matches whithout scoring a goal like benzema did at the euro champs
because yes, meanwhile higuain is excellent with his national team and scores important goals in qualifications to the 2014 world cup ( he is the 2nd top scorer of the qualifications, he has 4 goals, 1 goal more than messi)

by the way my friend who does videos about benzema's misses is working on a new one...9 minutes long
he showed it to me, it's very impressive the amount of easy goals that benzema misses

 

[frederic38]

the new blockbuster about benzema:

[video=youtube_share;jQu5kzhcS5U]http://youtu.be/jQu5kzhcS5U[/video]

i can't wait to see the reaction of all these benzema worshippers

 

[Matra2]

'Estadio Fly Emirates - Bernabéu'?

http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/no...l-Madrid-podria-ingresar-50-millones-ano.html

Emirates sponsoring RM for the next five years.

 

[frederic38]

'Estadio Fly Emirates - Bernabéu'?

http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/no...l-Madrid-podria-ingresar-50-millones-ano.html

Emirates sponsoring RM for the next five years.

what a surprise...this is exactly why this thread was created, and this is why there are muslim/arab players in real madrid, in the spanish league and in european leagues

 

[frederic38]

since mourinho won the spanish league this year, he will become more influential, and the club owners will be forced to buy a new striker
then mourinho will put benzema on the bench, or he will play in unimportant matches, or in a more defensive position

mourinho will do exactly the same that he did with eto'o at internazionale in 2009, when etoo played almost as a full back, just because mourinho was forced to put him on the field (but his favourite striker was milito)

it's happening right now, except that the big striker i was refering to will be higuain
in the latest real madrid training sessions benzema played as a middle fielder, with higuain as the main striker...
mourinho is a smart man

 

[frederic38]

higuain saying that he plans to play more this season:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spai...uain-targets-more-playing-time-at-real-madrid

 

[frederic38]

very important match for real madrid today against valencia and guess what: benzema is on the bench! thanks mourinho, football wins over marketing and business

higuain scored 6 goals in the last 6 matches against valencia

edit: and higuain scores after only 10 minutes: goodbye benzema!

 

[frederic38]

higuain was titular in the first 2 liga matches, and benzema on the bench, as expected
higuain scored at each match
however, real madrid is in trouble (they lost in getafe and draw in valencia)
ozil got a lot of the blame for these bad results (he missed an open goal against getafe), he could become a substitute, especially since real madrid bought modric (very good white middlefielder from croatia)
also khedira is no longer a titular
the arab/muslim players are having a rough time

 

[Matra2]

higuain was titular in the first 2 liga matches, and benzema on the bench, as expected
higuain scored at each match

Same for the second leg of the Super Cup. I just put it on when Higuain scored. Di Maria is playing too. Benzema appears to be warming the bench again.

OT Alexis Sanchez might well be the worst diver in European football.

 

[frederic38]

Same for the second leg of the Super Cup. I just put it on when Higuain scored. Di Maria is playing too. Benzema appears to be warming the bench again.

OT Alexis Sanchez might well be the worst diver in European football.

higuain once again has incredible goal scoring ratios this season

ozil had a bad match once again
modric came in and he was good
ozil might lose his place in the starting 11

by the way this topic has been linked somewhere else because there are 30 people or so viewing it

 

[frederic38]

some more higuain stats from the last season:

22 goals for 58 shots: http://www.marca.com/estadisticas/futbol/primera/2011_12/higuain_22858/
that's insane, it means that it takes him less than 3 shots to score a goal! (efficiency of 38%)

for comparison purpose, here are the same stats for the highly rated strikers of the spanish league:
falcao: 19% http://www.marca.com/estadisticas/futbol/primera/2011_12/falcao_22680/
messi: 25% http://www.marca.com/estadisticas/futbol/primera/2011_12/messi_22254/
ronaldo: 18% http://www.marca.com/estadisticas/futbol/primera/2011_12/cristiano_ronaldo_18436/ (not very significant because ronaldo shoots a lot from long distance)

and he has been consistent because these stats are from an entire season
when he's fit, he's consistent: 1 goal every 70-80 minutes, and 2.5-3 shots to score a goal
here are similar stats from the 2009-2010 season for example: http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/futbol-tiene-mejor-promedio-liga/20100301dasdaiftb_30/Tes

higuain is a very efficient striker,in a typically european way (argentine strikers are more european than the brazilian ones, with the exception of ronaldo)

 

[frederic38]

an article about benzema vs higuain: http://www.marca.com/2012/09/02/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1346546079.html

a quick translation of the main points of the article:

"higuain:3 , benzema: 0

higuain was the number 1 in mourinho's mind when the season started, and he's now the leading real madrid goal scorer

higuain was titular in 3 matches out of 4, he was only a substitute in the first leg of the supercup in barcelona
he scored each time he was titular

on the other hand, benzema's last goal in an official match was scored in the 13th of may
that's 8 matches whithout scoring (including the euro champs)

higuain had 15 shots, and more than 50% of these (8) were on target
benzema shot 5 times, and only one shot was on target"

this article is from before real madrid's latest match:

today against granada benzema was titular, and he didn't score
higuain came in and he scored (on an assist by benzema)

so now that's higuain: 4 , benzema: 0

 

[Matra2]

Something is going on with Ronaldo at Real Madrid. He refused to celebrate his goals on Sunday and has said he is "sad" at Real. He is a diva at times so who knows what he's upset about.

 

[frederic38]

Something is going on with Ronaldo at Real Madrid. He refused to celebrate his goals on Sunday and has said he is "sad" at Real. He is a diva at times so who knows what he's upset about.

probably multiple things, but he gets the feeling that he's not important enough (he's not the most paid player in the world, the real madrid fans prefer the spanish players, ect)


a "french" journalist, frederic hermel, gets proven wrong:


[video=youtube_share;hixn3g8V-m4]http://youtu.be/hixn3g8V-m4[/video]

he said "if you ask me it's obvious that real madrid's best striker - karim benzema - must play the most important matches
and i think that mourinho will keep with the same idea than last year - benzema playing the important matches"

yet benzema doesn't play the important matches this year
this proves once again that the ones saying that benzema was playing because for mourinho he was the best were wrong
their theories make no sense
benzema titular wasn't mourinho's idea, it was florentino perez's
and now that mourinho is more influent in the club he can play with the best striker
(mourinho did exactly the same than cristiano ronaldo is doing right now at one point, it was to obtain more influence in real madrid)

for the ones that speak french here is a compilation of some recent quotes about benzema: http://youtu.be/F8F7StERzH4
i have some older quotes too, maybe i'll put them all in one video

 

[frederic38]

a TV show (in english for once) where they talk about the token african defensive middlefielder of real madrid, essien (who came to replace lassana diarra the other black defensive middlefieder):
http://youtu.be/XhWahXZ3gSQ?t=20m15s

it seems like these guys would feel bad if they watch a match without african players
notice frederic hermel the "french" journalist who says that real madrid is a global club, we know what it means

here they say that it's important to have a player from africa in a big club like real madrid: http://youtu.be/XhWahXZ3gSQ?t=26m13s

 

[frederic38]

benzema didn't score once again, that's now 773 minutes, 13 hours on the pitch whithout scoring in a row
his last goal in an official match was in june against estonia in a friendly match
his last goal in real madrid was the 13th of may

meanwhile higuain scored for argentina a very important goal against vs paraguay in qualifying for the 2014 world cup, he's 1 goal away from suarez, the top scorer of the qualifiers (but suarez scored 4 goals against chile, a bit useless): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt...uay-2-1-higuain-amazing-goal-07-09-0212_sport
he is the only player in la liga to have scored in each la liga match so far (even ronaldo and messi didn't do it)

 

[frederic38]

regarding marketing-related transferts in real madrid:

guti (former real madrid player) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guti_(footballer)

was really upset because real madrid bought essien
what he says is the dominant sentiment in general amongst real madrid fans (fans from spain):

Hay cosas q no puedo entender en el fútbol y una de ellas es q se vaya granero para q venga essien,granero es mucho mejor q el y español.

https://twitter.com/GUTY14HAZ/status/242016812768849920

Teniendo a kedhira,granero,Xavi Alonso y modric en caso de q fallen esos tres necesitamos a lass o essien?yo pienso q no y la cantera existe

https://twitter.com/GUTY14HAZ/status/242018160180596736

Ahora mismo los mejores jugadores son españoles lo q pasa es q se roba mas dinero si se ficha a un jugador extranjero,me da mucho pena eso.

https://twitter.com/GUTY14HAZ/status/242017433857167360

translation: "there are things i don't understand in football, and one of these is the fact that granero left real madrid (he went to QPR) so that essien could come, granero is much better than essien and he's spanish
with khedira,granero, xabi alonso and modric, do we need lassana diarra and essien in case one of these fail? i don't think so, and you can use the "cantera" (real madrid's training centre, so he asks for more young local players to take essien's and lassana diarra's place as substitutes)
right now the best players are spaniards, yet you make more money if you buy a foreign player, it makes me sad"

i 100% agree with him
(except that saying that the best players in the world are spaniards sounds arrogant, but you get what he was saying, no need to import african players - mediocre players by nature - when you are one of the best countries in the world in youth development)
i think that real madrid needs star players from foreign countries though, but 3 by teams would be enough - and essien and lassana diarra are not stars, every spanish player could do what they do at real madrid

(note that he thinks the same about lassania diarra and essien...guess what they have in common)

 

[Europe]

regarding marketing-related transferts in real madrid:

guti (former real madrid player) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guti_(footballer)

was really upset because real madrid bought essien
what he says is the dominant sentiment in general amongst real madrid fans (fans from spain):



https://twitter.com/GUTY14HAZ/status/242016812768849920



https://twitter.com/GUTY14HAZ/status/242018160180596736



https://twitter.com/GUTY14HAZ/status/242017433857167360

translation: "there are things i don't understand in football, and one of these is the fact that granero left real madrid (he went to QPR) so that essien could come, granero is much better than essien and he's spanish
with khedira,granero, xabi alonso and modric, do we need lassana diarra and essien in case one of these fail? i don't think so, and you can use the "cantera" (real madrid's training centre, so he asks for more young local players to take essien's and lassana diarra's place as substitutes)
right now the best players are spaniards, yet you make more money if you buy a foreign player, it makes me sad"

i 100% agree with him
(except that saying that the best players in the world are spaniards sounds arrogant, but you get what he was saying, no need to import african players - mediocre players by nature - when you are one of the best countries in the world in youth development)
i think that real madrid needs star players from foreign countries though, but 3 by teams would be enough - and essien and lassana diarra are not stars, every spanish player could do what they do at real madrid

(note that he thinks the same about lassania diarra and essien...guess what they have in common)

These foreigners shouldn't be on those teams. You're right. There are probably many Spanish players who could do what he does. You could say the same thing for players in England. I even saw a comment on some sight from an English fan saying there are too many average foreign players in England and why not give some English players a chance instead of keeping them on the bench or in the Championship. Maurice Edu is a perfect example.

 

[Bk21]

wow Frederic38 you're quite something!!
"hideous non-european faces" you say? - 've heard nothing more hideous than this phrase..

 

[frederic38]

wow Frederic38 you're quite something!!
"hideous non-european faces" you say? - 've heard nothing more hideous than this phrase..

why?
1-kabyles are the most ugly people on earth:

and 2- they are not european

by the way once again benzema didn't score for france while higuain scored in peru
as usual

 

[frederic38]

These foreigners shouldn't be on those teams. You're right. There are probably many Spanish players who could do what he does. You could say the same thing for players in England. I even saw a comment on some sight from an English fan saying there are too many average foreign players in England and why not give some English players a chance instead of keeping them on the bench or in the Championship. Maurice Edu is a perfect example.

out of the top european clubs, i think that manchester united has the worst foreign players
the fact that nani is one of their best players with valencia says it all
and as full backs they have a bad brazilian and patrice evra