Adam Urbano

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very good and very white running back that I beleive is the starter for a powerhouse D2 southern football school that being Georgia Southern. I believe they have even one the D2 champinship before. I hope Adam continues to excel and can keep his starting job. Edited by: White Power
 

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Adam is the starting RB for Georgia Southern, but they are FCS (Division 1-AA), not Division 2. They are a member of the Southern Conference and they have won 6 FCS National Titles. Adam has split carries this year, but leads the team in rushing with 28 carries for 153 yards and a TD. Adam is also second on the team in receiving with 16 catches for 149 yards.

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Probably a little too early to be that, Manifest, as he's just a Sophomore. Coming from an FCS school and being white, chances are he could have three 1,500 yard rushing seasons and still not be considered a prospect.
 
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Probably a little too early to be that, Manifest, as he's just a Sophomore. Coming from an FCS school and being white, chances are he could have three 1,500 yard rushing seasons and still not be considered a prospect.
I hate to say it, but if he's not, does it really matter what he does in Div 1AA? There is much less of a caste there than in FBS, and if he's not going to be in the NFL, there's really no point in following him.
 

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He's a white RB, and that fact alone makes him worth keeping up with. He might get a sniff by the NFL, like NDSU RB Tyler Roehl did. Even if he doesn't get any NFL interest you can bet that several black FCS RBs will, which proves that the Caste System exists at that level. You are forgetting about current and former NCAA All Division Rushing Champs Nate Kmic and Danny Woodhead, who suffered from the Caste System at the lower levels, D2 and D3. You are also forgetting about David Ball, who broke Jerry Rice's receiving record at New Hampshire, and FCS school. You aren't being intellectually honest when you say the caste system is much less prevelant in FCS. Like I told you before, its too early to know whether he'll be an NFL prospect because Adam is just a Sophomore. It will be at least another year before any such talk will begin about him or pretty much any other Sophomore RB.
 

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Colonel, the caste system is weaker in the FCS (partly due to the fact that the CaucasianRivals.com media has less influence and does less coverage of it) for sure- although it definitely still does exist. I think the point Manifest Destiny is making is that the FCS isn't as fun to follow as the highest FBS level. If Adam Urbano doesn't make the NFL, I will probably not watch him play more than once or twice.

But M. Destiny, we have to educate as many people as we can on the caste system. I remember Adam Urbano coming out of H.S and he should be a big name RB in the FBS, not FCS. Urbano had a dazzling H.S career. This guy already has the talent to be getting NFL scouts looking at and evaluating his skills.
 

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Here's a little info on Urbano's stock for the 2012 draft class. Urbano is only ranked 80th for 2012 by NFLdraftscout at RB (b/c he's small and a white FCS prospect that is absolutely lower than it should be). College and NFL football should closely resemble the U.S racial population with MINOR disparities at different positions if it were fair. I will not stop fighting against the bias, until the caste system is gone. It's a big passion of mine and I don't want to see guys like Adam Urbano get screwed anymore.
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Tough, if Adam doesn't make the NFL, you won't see him period. Manifest Destiny is just trying to distract us and he has little interest in supporting the purpose of this site. As far as the FCS being less fun to watch than the FBS, I don't agree one bit. Since the FCS tends to be a little whiter and there are more majority white teams, I like watching more FCS games than FBS games. The problem is I can't watch them because they are rarely on the pathetic number of channels I get, or any regular satellite package for that matter. As you pointed out, Adam has already been screwed by the Caste System. His low ranking (albeit early ranking) on NFLdraftscout is another fact illustrating my point that the Caste System is still strong in the FCS.
 

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Well, when I say that the caste system is weaker in the FCS, I mean that it is only a little less white than it should be. However, I think only about 40% or less of FBS starters are white in our 75% white country...pathetic!

I'm not certain what to think of Manifest Destiny. I have seen him make a few pro white athlete posts before. He used to post a few months ago as well and we exchanged a couple PMs. I think he might be a moderate and not a troll.
 

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Manifest Destiny proves his position, one way or the other, by the questions he asks and the answers or opinions he gives on the board, just like the rest of us. He can speak for himself, if he so chooses.

Yes, the FBS is well under 40% white starters, as there are only 3 conferences in the country with more than 40% whites starting. Although none of us have researched the complete FCS, we know just by looking at some of the teams that it is probably 50% white, maybe a little more than that. That is still pathetically low, especially when you consider the fact that many FCS schools never start a white RB, CB, or WR. The prevalence of the caste system is still there, but it isn't as much of a widespread "iron law" as it is in the FBS. It tends to be concentrated in certain conferences, but in less of them than the FBS. Your just talking about a measure of degrees in the differences between the two subdivisions.
 
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I think Manifest Destiny might be a decent poster at heart, but still has some denial issues by not wanting to seem to be lumped in with the "crew" here at CF. I used to be very similar to this about 7 to 8 years ago, I would not have posted on this site, and if I did I would choose to distance myself from many of the members. I think the verdict is still out on MF, even though I know there is a history of trolls who sound like moderates, but ultimately come out with some outrageous posts condemning all of us here. We shall see I guess.
 

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Manifest Destiny proves his position, one way or the other, by the questions he asks and the answers or opinions he gives on the board, just like the rest of us. He can speak for himself, if he so chooses. Yes, the FBS is well under 40% white starters, as there are only 3 conferences in the country with more than 40% whites starting. Although none of us have researched the complete FCS, we know just by looking at some of the teams that it is probably 50% white, maybe a little more than that. That is still pathetically low, especially when you consider the fact that many FCS schools never start a white RB, CB, or WR. The prevalence of the caste system is still there, but it isn't as much of a widespread "iron law" as it is in the FBS. It tends to be concentrated in certain conferences, but in less of them than the FBS. Your just talking about a measure of degrees in the differences between the two subdivisions.

I don't think it's that far under 40% white starters though. 47 teams out of 120 start 10 whites of 22 or more in the FBS currently. The SEC (and ACC as well) is truly pathetic though and brings the percentage down. Then there are "caste wacko" teams like Illinois (in an over 40% white conference overall) that really bring the totals down. Maybe the coal black outlier teams bring the total down more than I suspect. If you count "entire rosters" in the FBS I would venture to say that the typical roster is around 50% white.
 

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You are probably correct about the rosters, Tough. As I have shown with several teams before, blacks on a roster have a much larger chance of starting than their white counterparts. This explained, for a time, how some SEC teams had around a half white roster but managed a 75% black starting team. Now I doubt whether any SEC team has a half white roster, with the possible exception of Vandy.
 

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Colonel, that's because there is a lot of white skill player backups who had to "walk-on" or are second thought recruits. An example would be Dan Mulrooney of BC, who has the ability to be in the mix at RB, but never will. He has already been moved to backup safety. The blacks get all the 4 and 5 star ratings and hype from CaucasianRivals.

You can see all the hate and scapegoating of white skill players by the media and DWFs as well, even big names like Sam McGuffie. McGuffie is said to "suck" by loads of the Michigan fans I see on message boards. The main reason Michigan was so bad last year was porous offensive line play and the lack of a passing threat at QB. Michigan actually won more games, last season, with McGuffie as a true freshman starting the first half of the season than Minor in the second half. To top this off, Michael Shaw ran for 5.1 YPC compared to Guff's 4.1, but Shaw would have had an identical 4.1 YPC without his one long 48 yard run. Shaw didn't really run the ball enough to get an accurate comparison. Michigan had all their best offensive players graduate the previous season and McGuffie was thrown to the wolves from the first game. But by the season's end (Guff only started the first 6 games) McGuffie was a 4.7 YPC guy other than his two games that he was below 3 YPC- the 1st Utah game and the 4th Wisconsin game

And what about the fact that (fawned over Rivals RB recruits) like Darrell Scott (Rivals' #1 RB) and Josh Haden (Rivals' #3 AP-RB, who shouldn't be ahead of Mulrooney on the depth chart btw) played worse than Sam last season in better offenses to work with? What about Marlon Lucky, getting a shot to make the NFL this summer, when he had an identical YPC to Guff in a much better Nebraska offense last year as a SENIOR? Not to mention lots of guys like this, that are fawned over, aren't the receiver McGuffie is- and NONE have the all around freakish athletic measurements. But these guys are prospects and McGuffie is not?..Right, I get it.
 

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I just did the math and the totals indicate that 39.2% of teams start 45.5% whites or more. So it's my guess that teams in the middle of the pack are starting 11, 10, 9, 8 and 7 whites. There might be more "caste wacko" teams like Memphis and Illinois that pull the totals way down than I suspect. I think I will check the entire FBS, when I get the chance, for teams that start 6 whites or less to get the entire picture. Maybe someone else could check for teams that start 9, 8 and 7 whites.
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I already have all that info, Tough. The total percentage of starting whites in the FBS in 2009 is 38.71%. I'm actually going to post an article with all the numbers from every conference and school, along with some interesting comparisons. So you weren't off in saying it wasn't too far below 40%.
 
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