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It seems to me white people in general are more miserable and unhappy now than I can ever remember. By a longshot. This unease has been going on for at least five years but probably ten to fifteen years. And this unhappiness does not seem to have an end in sight. In fact it seems to be getting worse each passing year. Is there a connection between white misery and the lack of white sports stars? I say yes. It isn't the entire problem of course and there are a lot of issues going on out there in this big ole world but I do not think one can dismiss that the sports world as it is laid out does contribute to the misery. As mentioned at caste many times, white kids are taught early on not to run and jump and be free . They are told every step of the way that blacks are better athletes and if they do venture into sports they should "know their place" which means white kid you will never ever until the end of time and even after that become a pro cornerback to just site one example of many.
I was struck by the recent news that a white couple from Ohio died of drug overdoses together. He was an airline pilot. They had two children each from previous partners I believe. The point is there is a raging increase in heavy drug use by young whites. The worst culprit is the opium like drugs (opioids) which include painkillers and heroin. Deaths are soaring because of these drugs. New England middle class whites are being ravaged by what some are terming an epidemic. In New Hampshire it is the biggest crisis they face. Appalachia and some parts of the Midwest like Ohio are also part of the growing list of areas where young white kids are dying from overdoses. Very sad to see young lives snuffed out with drugs.
As someone who has never taken drugs apart from an occasional prescription drug, this epidemic is a sign of white despair. Drugs like heroin are monstrous. Once they get a grip the victim is helpless. These drugs are not your basic nicotine addiction. No comparison between heroin and cigs albeit cigs are bad for you . I don't understand the fascination with smoking at all but that's just me.
Again there are many factors involved in why white kids are in such misery that they turn to these devils but white guilt and feelings of being inadequate and directionless play into it and the way the sports world has turned over the past 35 plus years does play some role. And I also think pot is hurting white athletes as well not to mention getting laid more easily than the previous generation. These things put a damper on their desire to succeed.
But back to point white misery here in the USA is real and not going away anytime soon. And some of the consequences are devastating to communities and families.
 
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I was struck by the recent news that a white couple from Ohio died of drug overdoses together. He was an airline pilot. They had two children each from previous partners I believe. The point is there is a raging increase in heavy drug use by young whites. The worst culprit is the opium like drugs (opioids) which include painkillers and heroin. Deaths are soaring because of these drugs. New England middle class whites are being ravaged by what some are terming an epidemic. In New Hampshire it is the biggest crisis they face. Appalachia and some parts of the Midwest like Ohio are also part of the growing list of areas where young white kids are dying from overdoses. Very sad to see young lives snuffed out with drugs.

As someone who has never taken drugs apart from an occasional prescription drug, this epidemic is a sign of white despair. Drugs like heroin are monstrous. Once they get a grip the victim is helpless. These drugs are not your basic nicotine addiction. No comparison between heroin and cigs albeit cigs are bad for you . I don't understand the fascination with smoking at all but that's just me.
Again there are many factors involved in why white kids are in such misery that they turn to these devils but white guilt and feelings of being inadequate and directionless play into it and the way the sports world has turned over the past 35 plus years does play some role. And I also think pot is hurting white athletes as well not to mention getting laid more easily than the previous generation. These things put a damper on their desire to succeed.
But back to point white misery here in the USA is real and not going away anytime soon. And some of the consequences are devastating to communities and families.

Yes, the frightening number of whites who become involved in drugs seems to augment with each passing year. Sure, many of them are already the “criminal class” of our race, but a mounting percentage are normal white people. The intentional eradication of the white family structure (via feminism and the confusion of traditional gender roles) creates isolation, which generally breeds symptoms such as decadence, nihilism, boredom, depression, and apathy. Thus, abusing illegal drugs or prescription medications takes the place of friends, relatives, or a husband/wife/kids.

I grew up in an all-white, highly rural area mostly comprised of religious Pennsylvania German farmers and Mennonites. I have a very large family on both sides and nobody drinks. In fact, there isn’t one bar or beer distributor within a very significant radius of my hometown. Of course, I’ve never drank alcohol and in my 30 years of life the most poisonous substances I’ve ever ingested was headache medicine, nasal decongestant, antibiotics (not since I was a teenager), and a steroid pack because I get awful poison ivy in the summer.

After I got married, I moved to a different county (very rural, 95%+ white) and there are white alcoholics everywhere. White people who literally drink beer/liquor/wine every single day for years and years. In my opinion, alcohol has far more detrimental impacts upon the lives of normal white people than do illegal/prescription drugs. The DUI’s, the domestic disputes, the poor decision-making, the money expended to purchase alcohol, the time spent at bars and away from loved ones, etc. Every negative story someone tells me invariably begins with “we were drinking and then…”

I mean...what is alcohol but a liquid drug that is legal?
 

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For sure alcohol has and continues to cause all sorts of havoc on people. But alcohol in moderation is consumed by countless Americans with no harm done. Indeed some studies show that drinking a glass of wine a day or a beer or two a day will increase your life span by 5 to 7 years or so. Prohibition is in the rear view mirror for many reasons and keep in mind they raised the drinking age to 21. So ok a lot of kids drink before 21 now but whereas alcohol can be used responsibly the opioids are a far darker animal and the fact that teens are getting their hands on these deathly drugs makes it even more dangerous.
I do not mean to suggest that lack of white sports stars is the key reason why white kids are so alienated today but it does factor in in my mind. A more structured perhaps religious up bringing could help but there are loads of factors today but I think for many young white kids they just feel isolated and feel inferior and the structure of our current sports arena only accentuates their problems.
 

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I've noticed that White Americans are generally angry and/or depressed for a long time, and I agree it's increased in recent years.

There's a lot of factors involved, the most important being that we live in an artificial "multicultural" society that in spite of the "shiny happy people" veneer put on everything by the corporate media, is ultimately enforced by the barrel of a gun. It's an artificial construct, and on top of it from cradle to grave Americans are indoctrinated by lies and propaganda (fake news).

In my own lifetime, I (barely) remember the "old America" that began to die the same day JFK did. Since then the cultural communists have completely remolded the U.S., ably assisted by the media, big business, the foundations, NGOs, academia, you name it, all institutions were subverted and taken over.

In the late '60s and '70s drugs, porn and free sex were introduced and then mainstreamed. Whites (and blacks also for that matter) have been degraded non-stop since then in a number of other ways, which is where things like the Caste System and the psychological neutering of White men comes in.

9/11 was used to usher in a total surveillance state along with the loss of what was left of our traditional freedoms. And it's been done mostly to the applause of the masses, as they've been thoroughly trained to fear Muslim terrorism and a host of other bogeymen. Americans have to always be filled with fear and anxiety, the better to more easily welcome and love Big Brother.

So you have a subverted, upside-down culture living in a police state, where Whites would rather be waterboarded than say anything politically incorrect. Many women have been taught to hate men while many men live married lives of misery, the working class has lost their traditional ways of living, with drugs and alcohol to turn to dull the pain, and the whole time non-Whites are being flooded into the country, legally and illegally through the southern border, but also through H-1B visas and other devices being used to next displace the White upper class.

Everyone runs around, always angry and in a hurry but getting nowhere, in reality most might as well be spinning on a hamster wheel. There are no answers unless their minds somehow open up enough to seek out the alternative media and/or those friends and acquaintances who are not part of the matrix (those who have found the red pill).
 

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Very good thread subject & assessments gentlemen.

I (too) have noticed this downturn in the collective "mood" of White America. The reasons listed above are very valid indeed. I've no doubt the "American Dream" (in its generic state) has been long dead & gone. :-(

I've found myself (greatly) growing in cynicism as I age. I attribute this to multiple factors including 'increased wisdom', paying more attention to societal trends (which are overwhelmingly negative) & concern over what this future holds for my children. Whereas, the average "American" (of 2.0 variety) buries his head in the sand, true Americans (like us) see the 'writing on the wall'.

As mentioned above, FAR too many are turning to drugs &/or alcohol to "deal" with life's woes. While we (here) know those are not viable "solutions", we have varying opinions on what are solid "answers". For me, I believe it's a combination of spiritual (learning & submitting to God's Word...not the modernist zio-'Christian' misinterpretation of it); mental (growing in + sharing knowledge & a preparatory/readinsss focus...in advance of SHTF) & physical (diet, exercise, defense training & readiness, etc.). IMHO, these are "starting" blocks to combat this depressive 'funk' that has permeated the White race.
 

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Personally I am much happier now then I was when I was younger. When I was in my late teens and early twenties I was like your typical White young person in that I had been brainwashed by popular culture, the mass media, Hollywood, and the public school system, with the typical leftist/globalist lies and garbage. I drank alot and smoked alot of pot and was generally not very happy. At about 25 I had my racial awakening and began to look at things completely differently. I admitted the things to myself that I had always known were true but was scared to admit to myself, because I didn't want to think of myself as a "racist". Once I admitted to myself that I like white people more than any others, that I prefer my civilization to all others, and that, yes, I much prefer rooting for white athletes above all others, I became much happier since I was being honest with myself. I am now 47, married with one son and like I said feel much more content then when I was younger.

I think alot of the reason for the White Misery we are talking about here, and why so many white people abuse drugs and alcohol and just feel lousy and despondent in general is because they are told constantly how awful they are and believe it. They don't have the self-confidence to say the hell with the mainstream culture, I like who I am, and I am going to feel good about myself. They just keep believing the garbage and can't shake it off.
 
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Don pretty much covered all my points. I'll just say that the Opioid addiction epidemic in White communities today is strategic and deliberate, much like crack cocaine was to inner city blacks in the mid 80's to help fund the Contras in Nicaragua and to fill the Prison Industrial Complex.

The official reason for invading and (still) occupying Afghanistan after 9/11 (capture Bin Laden (who was already dead) and destroy "terrorists") was a ruse. At the time we invaded Afghanistan, Opium production was very low. It has grown 40 times the size since then and I don't believe that is a coincidence. I believe the primary purpose of our invasion and occupation of Afghanistan was to control and profit from the illicit trade of Opium.

The epidemic in White communities over the past 5-6 years under 0bama has skyrocketed. They are hell-bent on eradicating Whites any way they can. And as bad as the epidemic is, I haven't heard a single politician talk about it, which shows their complicity. They know what the hell is going on. The C.1.A and "Deep State" is heavily involved in this. Barely a mention of it in the "Deep State" MSM as well. The only person that seems to give a damn is President Trump.

Anyway, here's a short interview of "The Duke" in 1974 giving his thoughts to some libtard reporter on the state of Amerika back then, so it's been going on for a long time, only now it's on super steroids with no seeming means of escape.
 
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One thing I will say is that the heroin epidemic has gripped white america in epic proportions. I'm only 35 but when I was around 20 and used to hang around with the party crowd and went out to bars this stuff wasn't around. I know that for a fact. Every other week another white kid I grew up with overdoses. I'm not even exaggerating.
 

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Yes, the frightening number of whites who become involved in drugs seems to augment with each passing year. Sure, many of them are already the “criminal class” of our race, but a mounting percentage are normal white people. The intentional eradication of the white family structure (via feminism and the confusion of traditional gender roles) creates isolation, which generally breeds symptoms such as decadence, nihilism, boredom, depression, and apathy. Thus, abusing illegal drugs or prescription medications takes the place of friends, relatives, or a husband/wife/kids.

I grew up in an all-white, highly rural area mostly comprised of religious Pennsylvania German farmers and Mennonites. I have a very large family on both sides and nobody drinks. In fact, there isn’t one bar or beer distributor within a very significant radius of my hometown. Of course, I’ve never drank alcohol and in my 30 years of life the most poisonous substances I’ve ever ingested was headache medicine, nasal decongestant, antibiotics (not since I was a teenager), and a steroid pack because I get awful poison ivy in the summer.

After I got married, I moved to a different county (very rural, 95%+ white) and there are white alcoholics everywhere. White people who literally drink beer/liquor/wine every single day for years and years. In my opinion, alcohol has far more detrimental impacts upon the lives of normal white people than do illegal/prescription drugs. The DUI’s, the domestic disputes, the poor decision-making, the money expended to purchase alcohol, the time spent at bars and away from loved ones, etc. Every negative story someone tells me invariably begins with “we were drinking and then…”

I mean...what is alcohol but a liquid drug that is legal?
You do know the history of prohibition was the Anglo-Saxon backlash against White ethnic people who had different customs than the more established Anglo-Saxon people.

Germans and other Central Europeans brewed and drank beer. Italians made wine. When the bill was passed to ban alcohol the only form of alcohol that was legal(beyond religious wine) was Anglo-Saxon spiked cider.

Yes alcohol is a plague on society for people that can't handle it but 90+ percent can handle it. I doubt it's anything close to that with narcotics.
 

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You do know the history of prohibition was the Anglo-Saxon backlash against White ethnic people who had different customs than the more established Anglo-Saxon people.

Germans and other Central Europeans brewed and drank beer. Italians made wine. When the bill was passed to ban alcohol the only form of alcohol that was legal(beyond religious wine) was Anglo-Saxon spiked cider.

Yes alcohol is a plague on society for people that can't handle it but 90+ percent can handle it. I doubt it's anything close to that with narcotics.

Very true. There are very few drug addicts who can function normally and don't eventually devolve into chemically-dependent, panhandling, thieving, financially broke, homeless lowlifes. The cable channel "A&E" has an amazing series called "Intervention" that I've been watching for many years and it provides an amazingly-real depiction of the life of hard drug user.

I didn't know that spiked cider was legal during Prohibition, but it was indeed one of the few exceptions: https://marymiley.wordpress.com/201...how-to-get-legal-alcohol-during-the-twenties/
 

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Don pretty much covered all my points. I'll just say that the Opioid addiction epidemic in White communities today is strategic and deliberate, much like crack cocaine was to inner city blacks in the mid 80's to help fund the Contras in Nicaragua and to fill the Prison Industrial Complex.

The official reason for invading and (still) occupying Afghanistan after 9/11 (capture Bin Laden (who was already dead) and destroy "terrorists") was a ruse. At the time we invaded Afghanistan, Opium production was very low. It has grown 40 times the size since then and I don't believe that is a coincidence. I believe the primary purpose of our invasion and occupation of Afghanistan was to control and profit from the illicit trade of Opium.

The epidemic in White communities over the past 5-6 years under 0bama has skyrocketed. They are hell-bent on eradicating Whites any way they can. And as bad as the epidemic is, I haven't heard a single politician talk about it, which shows their complicity. They know what the hell is going on. The C.1.A and "Deep State" is heavily involved in this. Barely a mention of it in the "Deep State" MSM as well. The only person that seems to give a damn is President Trump.

Anyway, here's a short interview of "The Duke" in 1974 giving his thoughts to some libtard reporter on the state of Amerika back then, so it's been going on for a long time, only now it's on super steroids with no seeming means of escape.

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One thing I will say is that the heroin epidemic has gripped white america in epic proportions. I'm only 35 but when I was around 20 and used to hang around with the party crowd and went out to bars this stuff wasn't around. I know that for a fact. Every other week another white kid I grew up with overdoses. I'm not even exaggerating.

WA33, same here. I am the same age and I had my fun back in college and after. I think by the time I was getting out of that phase of my life the pharmaceutical opioids really started becoming popular and abundant. They essentially had the same effect as heroin but prescribed by the medical industry and once the access to the prescription meds run out they turn to the street. I have seen alot in my day but heroin was something I never saw in person nor did I ever see anyone using it. It is pretty scary to think that it's become so available and abundant. Trump was the only candidate to even mention the issues with drugs gripping small towns in this country - another reason I voted for him.

As far as white misery, I think Trump did a lot to unite white americans because for the past 50 years no one spoke for us. No one spoke for the blue collar workers who grind it out on a daily basis just to see their companies go out of the country, no one spoke for white middle class Americans who played the game the right way - stayed out of trouble, performed well in school, went to college, got a job making decent money, married w/ kids only to see 40% of their money go towards federal, state and local taxes and at the same time see an influx in minorities leeching off the system and expecting us to cater to their wants. I honestly think 2016 was the tipping point - white people with any sort of brain said screw this I am voting for Trump because the BS in this country has been going on for such a long time. For me the misery for whites was everything leading up to Trump and he was finally the one we were able to get behind as a big F*ck You to the powers that be. White people are now angry, upset and awake to what is going on. As the balkanization of this country continues and the white segment of the population continues to shrink I expect more of this defiant attitude and whites essentially giving what they have received for the past half century.
 

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WA33, same here. I am the same age and I had my fun back in college and after. I think by the time I was getting out of that phase of my life the pharmaceutical opioids really started becoming popular and abundant. They essentially had the same effect as heroin but prescribed by the medical industry and once the access to the prescription meds run out they turn to the street. I have seen alot in my day but heroin was something I never saw in person nor did I ever see anyone using it. It is pretty scary to think that it's become so available and abundant. Trump was the only candidate to even mention the issues with drugs gripping small towns in this country - another reason I voted for him.

As far as white misery, I think Trump did a lot to unite white americans because for the past 50 years no one spoke for us. No one spoke for the blue collar workers who grind it out on a daily basis just to see their companies go out of the country, no one spoke for white middle class Americans who played the game the right way - stayed out of trouble, performed well in school, went to college, got a job making decent money, married w/ kids only to see 40% of their money go towards federal, state and local taxes and at the same time see an influx in minorities leeching off the system and expecting us to cater to their wants. I honestly think 2016 was the tipping point - white people with any sort of brain said screw this I am voting for Trump because the BS in this country has been going on for such a long time. For me the misery for whites was everything leading up to Trump and he was finally the one we were able to get behind as a big F*ck You to the powers that be. White people are now angry, upset and awake to what is going on. As the balkanization of this country continues and the white segment of the population continues to shrink I expect more of this defiant attitude and whites essentially giving what they have received for the past half century.

I have never seen anything like the attack on white people that is taking place this very day. It's every single place you look. Why is it mostly white kids dying from these heroin overdoses? I have a theory and I am pretty sure it's mostly correct. Most of these white kids are going into the hood to buy their dope and the blacks are lacing it on purpose.
 

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I have never seen anything like the attack on white people that is taking place this very day. It's every single place you look. Why is it mostly white kids dying from these heroin overdoses? I have a theory and I am pretty sure it's mostly correct. Most of these white kids are going into the hood to buy their dope and the blacks are lacing it on purpose.

That would not surprise me at all. The answer of course is, don't do drugs.
 

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It seems that massive debt is another contributor to "White misery". The following article says that "Americans" are kicking the bucket with an average of $62K in debt.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/03/21/americans-are-dying-with-average-62k-debt.html

The data is based on Experian’s FileOne database, which includes 220 million consumers. (There are about 242 million adults in the U.S., according to 2015 estimates from the Census Bureau.) Among the 73% of consumers who had debt when they died, about 68% had credit card balances. The next most common kind of debt was mortgage debt (37%), followed by auto loans (25%), personal loans (12%) and student loans (6%).

Insanity.

Surely, another common source of endless stress and misery I see among my fellow whites is massive financial debt...but even I didn't think it was that many people. I know countless white people with mortgages over $1,000 per month, $400 per month car payments, $300 per month credit card payments, $250 car lease payments, boat payments, 4-wheeler payments, tractor payments, loans for engagement rings, loans for wedding receptions, loans for vacations, layaway payments for stupid stuff like patio furniture or kitchen appliances, people taking home equity loans (or borrowing against your house) for ridiculous reasons, people cashing out their life insurance and retirement accounts for absurd reasons, people deferring their student loan payments for 10+ years after graduating, people paying 30 years on their mortgage without a single extra payment, etc.

Add in expenses that "everybody" has such as utilities, food, gas, cell phone bill, TV/internet/landline phone bill, property taxes, school taxes, car/home insurance, and it's really no wonder that most white people are broke. Talk about getting Jewed.

In 99% of cases, it's their own dumb fault, however, they're also victims of an ultra-materialistic and decadent Western culture that is infinity barking in their ears that they must have a new car, clothes, jewelry, cell phone, and a house they can't afford.

Conservative radio host, Dave Ramsey, has had some great "rants" about car payments and I totally agree...


I've never had a car payment and the only loan I've ever taken was my mortgage (30-year old bi-level home on 9 acres), which I thankfully paid off last year when I was 29 after 5.5 years of paying as much as I possibly could each month. I commuted to college (BS in civil engineering with a minor in surveying) and it cost about $35,000 total for 4 years...which I was barely able to pay for each semester and thankfully didn't need to take student loans. I wanted to make sure that if I died unexpectedly, that my wife and kids would at least have my life insurance payout and wouldn't have any debt.
 
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This is currently a prominent link on the Drudge Report, so at least a lot of White Americans will see it. It's time to start taking care of our own again:

Death Rates Rise for Wide Swath of White Adults, Study Finds

In 2015, two Princeton University economists published a landmark paper showing that mortality was rising for white middle-aged Americans after decades of decline, a startling development for an economically advanced nation.

Now a new analysis from the same pair, released Thursday by the Brookings Institution, paints an even bleaker picture of the nation’s largest-population group.

Mortality has been rising since the turn of this century for an even broader swath of white adults, starting at age 25, the researchers found, driven by troubles in a hard-hit working class. Death rates for white non-Hispanics with a high-school education or less now exceed those of blacks overall, the pair said—and they’re 30% higher for whites age 50 to 54 than for blacks overall of that age.

full article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/death-rates-rise-for-wide-swath-of-white-adults-1490240740
 

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That's really depressing and is exactly what the people pulling the strings want. No doubt that debt plays a huge role and as Thrashen said the decadent Western culture which promotes materialism that has rose out of the past 50 years of leftist doctrine seeping into greater society has played a huge role in this as well.

I wonder what the institutions who researched and discovered these findings is going to do. I would imagine nothing because this is what "academia" wants. I still can't get the images out of my mind of tribesman Tim Wise talking with glee about the browning of Amerika.
 
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Here is great posting from u-tube about where some of the United States wealth is and the legalism
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Very true. There are very few drug addicts who can function normally and don't eventually devolve into chemically-dependent, panhandling, thieving, financially broke, homeless lowlifes. The cable channel "A&E" has an amazing series called "Intervention" that I've been watching for many years and it provides an amazingly-real depiction of the life of hard drug user.

I didn't know that spiked cider was legal during Prohibition, but it was indeed one of the few exceptions: https://marymiley.wordpress.com/201...how-to-get-legal-alcohol-during-the-twenties/

My cousin's daughter recently died from an overdose of drugs leaving behind two children. I'm not sure what drug it was, but my cousin's brother said she was on crack among other drugs. He also said she couldn't function with or without all the drugs she was on. She supposedly borrowed and or used any money she made from working on drugs. What I find interesting is why and how he said got started. She was taking prescribed pain killers for an injury or surgery, etc. She couldn't get off the pain killers and moved on to stronger drugs. I don't know if this is true, I wasn't that close to her. People don't always like to admit there was something else wrong and blame their problems on other circumstances.

However, when I was going through my cancer treatment, I was prescribed pain killers. I had never taken any kind of drug in my life, but the pain of throat cancer is pretty unbearable. I will say getting off those pain killers was one of the most difficult things I've ever went through. When you are getting off of them you literally have to will and drag yourself out of bed everyday. It's a battle, but with the good Lord's help and my wonderful wife, I was able to wean myself off of them. I can see how weaker people can get hooked and go on to stronger drugs. Which leads to my question. Are doctors over prescribing and suggesting too much of the drugs they're giving to patients making very difficult to get off of them? Idk, but they did help me get through the pain.

Looking back, I just blindly took the dosage the doctor prescribed, because I was in a lot of pain and again chemo and radiation to the throat is brutal!
 

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My cousin's daughter recently died from an overdose of drugs leaving behind two children. I'm not sure what drug it was, but my cousin's brother said she was on crack among other drugs. He also said she couldn't function with or without all the drugs she was on. She supposedly borrowed and or used any money she made from working on drugs. What I find interesting is why and how he said got started. She was taking prescribed pain killers for an injury or surgery, etc. She couldn't get off the pain killers and moved on to stronger drugs. I don't know if this is true, I wasn't that close to her. People don't always like to admit there was something else wrong and blame their problems on other circumstances.

However, when I was going through my cancer treatment, I was prescribed pain killers. I had never taken any kind of drug in my life, but the pain of throat cancer is pretty unbearable. I will say getting off those pain killers was one of the most difficult things I've ever went through. When you are getting off of them you literally have to will and drag yourself out of bed everyday. It's a battle, but with the good Lord's help and my wonderful wife, I was able to wean myself off of them. I can see how weaker people can get hooked and go on to stronger drugs. Which leads to my question. Are doctors over prescribing and suggesting too much of the drugs they're giving to patients making very difficult to get off of them? Idk, but they did help me get through the pain.

Looking back, I just blindly took the dosage the doctor prescribed, because I was in a lot of pain and again chemo and radiation to the throat is brutal!

Thanks for sharing that CS. God bless your Mrs. for standing by her man. :)

I've had a few eye surgeries (due to an injury I sustained as a kid). During my last surgery (20+ years ago), I was given one shot of Demerol in post op (to ease the pain of micro sutures in my eye). I still recall the effect of that single dose...feeling comfortably warm, somewhat sleepy & tranquil. After the 1 shot, they gave my Tylenol 3. I guess I can see where opioids are addictive. However, I cannot see just "jumping right into" snorting coke, eating LSD or shooting smack. Those have never been any kind of "temptation" for me (thank God).
 

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PC Culture and Affirmative Action policies 2 other ways our government has been screwing Whitey and perhaps contributing to the white misery we're seeing now..
 

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The opioid problem is a two way battle. On the one hand you have the illegal drug heroin and it's weird deadly derivatives and these nightmares find their way into the hands of young people. On the other hand you have the legal painkillers which Carolina alluded to which are a godsend to people who are suffering unbearable pain. High powered Tylenol even with Codeine is often not strong enough to curb this kind of pain so doctors prescribe the opiates although I tend to think the more natural opiates are a bit safer than the synthetic type but that is not the main story line. When opiates are prescribed doctors should monitor their patients and at the first sign that a less powerful painkiller drug ( or no painkillers at all) can be substituted they should jump right on it. It goes without saying that opiate prescriptions should be doled out in small amounts and that only the doctor can approve refills if necessary. They can also get someone off the hook gradually by lowering the dosage over time as well. The AMA should tighten up these guidelines so doctors don't hand this stuff out like candy and that constant monitoring is required. Burt Reynolds for example became severely drug addicted after his jaw was broken.
I think with better diligence and monitoring painkiller abuse can be cut down in a significant manner. The illegal stuff is a whole other nut to crack and much more difficult to curb and control. It goes without saying that with heroin the most important and essential way of stopping the abuse is simple--kids should NEVER TRY IT. EVER. This requires parents and even schools to be on the lookout for signals. Parents should watch and react quickly if they think their child is hanging out with the "wrong crowd." Many in the media may scoff at this idea but there is a much greater burden today growing up white. When I was born it was not an issue at all but today it is an issue.
 
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