FBI Suspected That Ali's Knockout of Liston Was Fixed

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It's been a long time, but I watched those two alleged fights that Clay had with Liston very carefully once, stopping the tape and making notes. They were as phony as Barry's birth certificate. Unfortunately I can't find those notes any more. I might just do it again.

They had a news reporter standing outside the arena after, I think it was the second phony fight, interviewing people on the way out, and he couldn't find a single person who thought that the thing was legit.
 
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Ali (The anointed GOAT) was involved in more fishiness than any other boxer. Many of his wins were illegitimate.
 

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It's been a long time, but I watched those two alleged fights that Clay had with Liston very carefully once, stopping the tape and making notes. They were as phony as Barry's birth certificate. Unfortunately I can't find those notes any more. I might just do it again.

They had a news reporter standing outside the arena after, I think it was the second phony fight, interviewing people on the way out, and he couldn't find a single person who thought that the thing was legit.
Liston was owned by the mob. He was an illiterate man who could only read and write his name. Many times he complained about being short changed on his purses. The story I heard for years was the mob told him to lay down, not that he made money off of a fix. Either way it seems plausible as his "knock out" looks similar to the Fox-Lamotta fight where Lamotta fell over from a shot that looked harmless, especially considering Lamotta had a cast iron chin. Ps Liston who later lived in Nevada died of a drug overdose and his wife stated that he was given a hot dose from the mob from his public complaints about being short changed.
 
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FBI Suspected That Ali's Knockout of Liston Was Fixed

Sonny Liston and his Las Vegas manager Ash Resnick bet $1,000,000 against Liston in Ali-Liston I on February 25 1964.

www.boxingscene.com/fbi-suspected-alis-knockout-liston-fixed--75035

Just shows what a pussy Hoover was. He has this good evidence that could have derailed Clay's career and they just sit on it. Probably LBJ put out the word to bury the story, after all he wanted all those negro votes. You didn't have to be a genius to see the fix was in. The "phantom punch" is a well know part of boxing lore.
 

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Liston was owned by the mob. He was an illiterate man who could only read and write his name. Many times he complained about being short changed on his purses. The story I heard for years was the mob told him to lay down, not that he made money off of a fix. Either way it seems plausible as his "knock out" looks similar to the Fox-Lamotta fight where Lamotta fell over from a shot that looked harmless, especially considering Lamotta had a cast iron chin. Ps Liston who later lived in Nevada died of a drug overdose and his wife stated that he was given a hot dose from the mob from his public complaints about being short changed.


Liston was a strong armed thug for the mob. They used him as a strike breaker. They often used negro thugs as strike breakers. The great Jack London wrote about that. Liston was a career criminal, but he was not known to be a drug addict, especially a heroin addict. He was said to have an extreme fear of needles, injections - but they found him OD'd on heroin with a needle in his arm.
 

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Ali (The anointed GOAT) was involved in more fishiness than any other boxer. Many of his wins were illegitimate.



You can say that again. Phony judges, fixed ring ropes, fixed gloves, crooked managers, Black Muslim intimidation of his opponents. He couldn't even beat relatively little fellers weighing only in the 180's without cheating, like Henry Cooper, and Doug Jones, and even a guy named Alonzo Johnson who had lost six of his last eight fights.

You can see the Clay-Johnson fight on Youtube, except they spliced out the ending where the announcers expressed their shock and outrage over the judges giving the fight to Clay - just as the existing video versions of Cooper-Clay have the approx. 4 minute interval between rounds, when Dundee was busy slicing open Clay's glove to give him extra time to recuperate, have been completely spliced out - and I watched the film of that fight on ESPN Classic, and not only did they splice it out but they completely ignored it and made it seem that nothing unusual whatsoever happened between the rounds. And I don't know what all Dundee did to Clay's glove besides slicing it open - because when the fight finally resumed he was suddenly able to slice up Cooper's face...almost as if there was something very sharp in his new glove.
 

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Liston was a strong armed thug for the mob. They used him as a strike breaker. They often used negro thugs as strike breakers. The great Jack London wrote about that. Liston was a career criminal, but he was not known to be a drug addict, especially a heroin addict. He was said to have an extreme fear of needles, injections - but they found him OD'd on heroin with a needle in his arm.
After the probable fix in Lewiston. Liston's career was on the skids and he never made big money again but lost big money at the casinos in Vegas. There are many famous photos of him gambling at the roulette tables. I have heard he debt collected for the Vegas underworld during this period. Maybe he threatened to go to the FBI if he didn't get more money for his work or the fixed fight. Anyway when you work for the mob once you lose your usefulness to them you swim with the fishes like thesehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FZ2FA-epcE guys.....:scared:
 
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