Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury

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  1. Charles Martel

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    That's quite an apt summary. For stricter taxonomic accuracy I'd recommend throwing a gibbon into the mix. Then again, Fury is a pikey therefore the gibbon component is pretty much already present in his worthless criminal genes.

    Fury's constant annoying stream of gum-flapping is more than just cynical self-promotion: it's a hallmark of so-called "Travellers". The pikeys are right down amongst the thickest sludge at the bottom of the barrel of the very worst dregs of the White race. Just for a laugh, check out these outstanding intellectual specimens who share Fury's "proud gypsy pedigree":

    [video=youtube;W5zZjfjAq9I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5zZjfjAq9I[/video]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHuz8juiIYs

    As I have previously stated, Fury might as well be a Negro for he certainly behaves like one. If Klitschko wins on points Fury will simply say he was robbed by the judges and unashamedly continue his bluster about being the world's greatest fighter. The only way to shut this pikey spud up is by unambiguous knockout. But even if he is knocked out I wager Fury will do an Anthony Mundine and still claim he's better than the bloke who belted him into senselessness...
     
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    Fury will be active and dangerous up to about round 5. Then the dismantling will commence for a round or two, with Tyson getting knocked-out between rounds 7 through 9.

    Remember, Tyson was dropped by the much lighter and shorter Cunningham, so when Wladimir lands the combinations on him he will go down and stay down.
     
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    That wasn't English, right? That was just gibberish. No idea at all what that guy said!
     
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    Fury is a good heavyweight but he hasn't been in the ring with anyone close to Wlad' s ability. Wlad will knock him out by round 9.
     
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    They're speaking their Cant lingo or a mixture of Cant and English. And no you don't really want them for next door neighbors.
     
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    Great analysis WIR, I could see that happening. I still remember the Holmes v Cooney fight. Holmes conditioning, will and technical skills won the fight. I remember when Holmes was in the locker room after the fight and interviewed. He said Cooney gave him a hell of a fight and he saw great things for Cooney. Too bad his prophecy was wrong.
     
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    Cooney was terribly mismanaged including by himself. He had only fought a few rounds in a few years before Holmes. Then it turned out to be an incredibly hot night. And then instead of fighting his fight, going out and throwing bombs, he tried to turn into a boxer and conserve his strength. Ken Norton fought Ali three times and in reality beat him all three times. If you don't know what Gerry Cooney did to Norton watch it on youtube. One of the most devastating KO's ever. That's what he was capable of doing to Holmes too.

    PS Tyson's cousin Hughie fights tonight.
     
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    It may sound like gibberish spouted by a "special needs" simpleton who's just washed down a ****tail of prescription drugs with a bottle of low-grade poitin then had a motor oil enema administered via high-pressure water blaster, but that's how pikeys talk. The entire thing was in "English" peppered with a couple of slang terms. As I said, these inbred knackers are only nominally human. The loser who filmed the first video even managed to get one of his fingers into the corner of his shot. I hope BoxingSpecialist2 doesn't hire him as a cameraman...

    In a nutshell, this (barely) functioning retard is challenging the Joyce family, opening with the following Ciceronian oratory: "Dis goin' to you junky Joe Joyce, you junkies' bastard, ya, right dis goin' to you now. You never had a son dat beat an O'Donnell, d'ye hear me? Right!"

    Later in the rant, the shaved ape O'Donnell states that he's thirty four and in the prime of his life. ****, if this is his "prime" I'd hate to see his decline. Sorry for taking the thread off topic but this stuff puts Tyson Fury's blather about his Traveller background into a perspective which is stripped of all myths and celluloid romanticisation and shows these dirty, potato-faced goons for what they are.

    Speaking of subhuman genetic slop, here's the, er, celebrated "Big" Joe Joyce a few years back:

    [video=youtube;SJOpiSk1A_0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJOpiSk1A_0[/video]

    An ideal candidate for the cover of GQ, Men's Health, or Country Life if ever I saw one...
     
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    I find them quite interesting. One of the many theories of the Irish Traveler's origins is that they are descendants of archaic humans that were the earliest inhabitants of the Emerald Isle. Less esoteric thinkers attribute their appearance to inbreeding, as Travelers marry only other Travelers.

    I have no problem with them. Because I don't have to live around them.
     
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    Mr Joyce revealed one of his secrets of bare knuckle boxing. He used to soak his hands in gasoline twenty minutes a day to harden them up so he could bust up his opponent good and proper.

    Here, you'll like this, Rebajlo -

    Pikeys - Our Friends

    Pikeys are one of the best-loved of all the various demographic groups that make up the population of modern Britain. Their cheeky ways and reputation for honesty and hard work make them popular wherever they go and ensures steady employment whenever an employer needs trustworthy and diligent workers...


    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Pikeys_-_Our_Friends


    Funny satire. Now to defend the Irish Travelers. They are a problem indigenous to Ireland, and now the UK. Like the Hock just mentioned, they go back centuries and maybe even far longer, as some claim them to be remnants of the early inhabitants of Ireland, yes likely inbred. White trouble makers. But it's too bad the publishers of the "Uncyclopedia" don't have the integrity to make a satire on the infinitely worse very recent and very alien mass invaders of Ireland and Great Britain, the mud dregs of the middle east, and the negro savages!
     
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    A few years back this site had a discussion on Irish grifters in America....http://www.castefootball.us/forums/showthread.php/3563-Irish-Gypsies?highlight=travellers
     
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    Here in Alberta, Canada we have the largest source of renewable petroleum in the world (our oil is in tar sands so it is more costly to extract, but the benefit is that it is essentially infinite and regenerates over time, compared to say Saudi oil - the largest oil reserve in the world and easily accessible, but does not regenerate).

    Because of our economy we get skilled immigrants from all over the world. There are quite a number of "fresh off the boat" guys from Ireland working here in Alberta. Usually tradesmen.

    I worked with an Irish guy here in Calgary and asked him about Tyson Fury. He informed me that Fury is an Irish traveler.

    He then told me that in Ireland the travelers are mainly welfare recipients, drug dealers, and loan sharks. He also said when he was working in Ireland the travelers would steal his tools, coppers, metals, and even snacks.

    But so what, I'm still a Tyson Fury fan!
     
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    When the travelers stage boxing matches, they are similar to bare knuckle era fights where the camps put up the money for the two fighters to fight over. Also the matches go on until one fighter quits or can't get up anymore.

    Yes like most ostracized groups travelers are heavily involved in the underground economy with mob groups as muscle. I saw a video where many worked in construction as labourers and many were bitter that their wages were driven down by Poles who worked for much less in the London construction industry.
     
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    I'm not sure how much the 'Irish traveller' thing relates to Fury.He obviously has ancesters that were travellers and many of them were gypsy bare knuckle brawlers but i dont think they are anything like you see in them videos posted.For one thing the Fury family have a lot of money.They're not welfare spongers who live in caravans.Fury was born in Manchester England and grew up in a big family house with a lot of land.His uncle and trainer Peter Fury is a millionair buisness man who owns houses in Cannes[wealthy part of France]Belgium,Holland and England.Fury had quite a privilged upbringing.

    Middleweight champion Andy Lee is a second cousin of Fury and he's a fighter that's humble,smart and tough yet comes from a travelling background.
     
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    I'm not saying that Fury lives in a caravan or grew up on campsites. But as he habitually boasts about his "Irish gypsy" heritage I don't see anything amiss with providing a bit of footage for the benefit of those of our readers who are unfamiliar with pikeys and their inherent low-brow thuggery and criminality. Fury's "rough and tumble persecuted minority" braggadocio is not dissimilar to that of Negroes who delight in glorifying real or imaginary "ghetto criminal" backgrounds.

    By the way, at 0:59 of the interview BoxingSpecialist2 posted all the way back on page 1 of this thread (which I've reposted below) Fury says: "D'you know, if he stops training for any amount of time he'll go down to cruiserweight. He ain't a natural heavyweight, that man. He's, he's full of whatever he's full of and he's pumped up". Any thoughts?

    [video=youtube;zcObblCXidA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcObblCXidA[/video]
     
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    The pikeys aren't a problem exclusive to Ireland and the UK. Increasing numbers of these pricks are turning up in Australia to pull their standard driveway / home maintenance scams:

    http://www.irishecho.com.au/2015/01/...-from-wa/33481

    The opinions expressed by Irish ex-pats in the comments section of the article above illustrate the loathsome contempt in which so-called "Travellers" are quite rightly held by anyone who has ever had even fleeting contact with them...


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    Did you see the satirical link I posted before?

    So they're in Australia fleecing the suckers too now.

    There are a lot of them living in the USA, headquartered in a town in South Carolina. They are very secretive and into all kinds of scams. They use different names and subterfuges. There is the notorious Williamsons infamous for their re-tarring the driveway racket. I think that they are actually Travellers, but they may be some relatives, the Scottish Travellers. As you can see in the article linked below they parasitize the host population in many ways, like all their insurance scams, and have become very wealthy doing so.

    There are actually quite a few inbred clans operating in the US, but you don't hear much of them, and some may be diminished in numbers - the mysterious malungeons and the jackson-whites, for instance. Those two groups are racially mixed, but the Irish Travellers are all white. I think those guys who periodically accost me in shopping center parking lots trying to fix the dents on my vehicle, are Romany gypsies. They look very swarthy. I chatted up the last bunch and told them I want to join. The gypsy said he'd tell me all about the Romany lifestyle while he fixed my dents, but I demurred. Then there are newer east Indian clans, like the Patels who have taken over the US motel business. Try to find one to collect taxes. They are all named Patel! Of course they are all small potatoes compared to the Talmud cult which has taken over everything from the photography business to owning the politicans and the elections and the media and the money printing machines.

    When I said the Irish Tarvellers were a problem indigenous to Ireland and UK I meant that they are a home grown nuisance and well able to be controlled, as opposed to the massive invasion of African negroes and mixed race sub-humans that they are now flooding all the white nations with.

    "Irish Travellers are prospering in America and “make most of their money from life insuranceâ€￾

    http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-travellers-america-1039464-Aug2013/
     
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    Fury is very glib but he seems to lose some control of his emotions when Vlad is in the same room. His personal attacks on Vlad as a person are out of line to me. He comes across as an upstart punk who doesn't have the character to show the proper respect to a great sportsman like Vlad.

    I think Fury is scared. He has stated previously that he isn't scared of losing a fight but I suspect he fears he will lose badly against Vlad. Something like the way people will say they don't fear death but hope their dying isn't gruesome or too prolonged.

    I predict Fury is in for a gruesome fate in this fight but how prolonged it is depends on his chin.

    And his chin ain't that great.
     
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    I think Fury is trying to come off as some working class hero who hales from humble origins, while at the same time painting Klitschko as some kind of privileged, silver-spoon aristocrat since the latter has a PhD, conducts himself like an Eton graduate, and speaks more than one language (and speaks ENGLISH better than Fury, I might add).

    —since as we all know, to grow up in Soviet-era Ukraine was practically an Upper Eastside prepschool, of course.

    Klitschko also underwent compulsory military service and served as an officer.

    Tyson Fury ALSO grew up in the communist bloc and had to serve in the army whether he wanted to or not, right?

    Oh... wait.

    The bottom line is that Fury is insecure because in every way that matters, Klitschko is a better fighter, a better person, and a more accomplished individual. Fury will lose, and lose badly.

    However, having said that, if Fury pulls of an [unlikely] upset, that would be better than if some Black fighter pulled off an upset on Wladimir.

    At least in terms of boxing the argument comes from "which White fighter will be the world champion" as opposed to "which token White fighter will be given an opportunity against a protected Black champion."

    Blacks are irrelevant in the heavyweight ranks and have been for some time now, so of course rather than give credit where credit is due and simply admit that White boxers are perfectly capable of winning and dominating, people instead say that the best athletes are playing basketball, having abandoned boxing.

    LOL. Okay Leroy, whatever helps you sleep at night.
     
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    I get it that some people are put off by Fury ' s loud mouth. He does talk a lot. But it's important to note that he has consistently backed up everything he has said. I would encourage people to watch his press conference and fight VS Steve Cunningham. Cunningham is a good fighter and had never been KO'D before but was knocked spark out by Fury. 10 count. No TKO it was a clean KO.

    Fury comes to fight and he's probably the most confident opponent Wlad has ever faced.

    Wlad will be in for a fight. Fury isn't going to "half ass" it like Haye or Leapai, or Mormeck.

    I'm not saying Fury will win, just saying he definitely comes to fight and will bring it to Wlad.
     
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    Right now the bookies have it 4 to 1 odds in favor of Wlad.
     

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