Who's White to you?

Discussion in 'Media Racism and Stereotyping' started by Odysseus, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. Odysseus

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    Hello everyone! I hope you are ALL well, strong and healthy in body and mind. So, after spending many hours discussing about this topic, I wonder what/who's white to you guys? For example, do you see someone as Canelo Alvarez or Zinedine Zidane as a white man? I personally do! Actually, my standards of "whiteness" are very plain to me these days:

    A) Being genetically white (that's a long scientific conversation)
    B) Being culturally white (things are more simple on this department)
    C) Being a combination of both A&B, which is the perfect match in my opinion.

    When it comes to A, working with a team of archaeologists and taking part in several excavations (my PhD is on Legal Archaeology) enlightened me about a series of things. According to science and archaeology, there are four races only: white/Caucasian, Mongoloid/Asian, Negroid/Black, and Australoid. After taking part in several excavations, I am 99% sure that both Zidane and Canelo's remains would be classified as "Caucasian skeletons." Also, when I am in a silly mood and I don't want to get into it deeply, I just ask myself when I want to identify someone's race, "Let's say GGG (the boxer) is a cop somewhere in Ohio and kills a black gangster, will the anti-white media classify him as white? Yes or no? Of course they will. So there you go." We can get into it more if you like, so I am expecting your comments and ideas on this to develop an interesting conversation.

    Now, when it comes to B, things get a little more interesting to me. Being culturally white is not as simple as some of us may believe (or used to believe). For example, I consider Hitler the most hardcore anti-white human being to ever walk on the face of the earth. I try very hard to think of another human being of any color, religion, nationality, gender, you name it, who caused more death and disaster within the white kind. There's not any! I think only "Black Death" exterminated so many white humans in such a short period of time. Someway, somehow, Hitler is considered a "symbol" of "white power" among many "pro-whites" around the world, which I believe is the product of anti-white propaganda of which Hitler was part of (I tend to believe that he knew very well what he was doing).

    I've traveled a whole lot during the past 10 years and what shocked me in every country of central/north Europe I visited (Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine, Russia) the so called antisemitic Nazis didn't touch (let alone take down or destroy) a single synagogue in any of the countries I mentioned. On the other hand, many ancient Greek temples, churches and of course GORGEOUS buildings of incredible historical and cultural value have been totally destroyed in all over Europe by the Nazis (and communists later). If anyone's from the countries I mentioned, or has traveled there, please let's discuss about this phenomenon and how you explain it. I may be missing something! It would also be critical to mention here, that the millions of Greeks, Poles, Russians, Serbians etc. Hitler murdered, were pro-white people, who bred with other local white people, took care of their families, were Christians, honored their culture and roots, didn't date/marry interracially etc. In other words, he killed hard-working, good white folks with great values as we would define them in this forum. I do not see how Hitler did any good to the white kind, really! However, the media (especially in the US and UK), portray him as the absolute symbol of "whiteness", a fact that makes me believe even more that Hitler was their ultimate puppet and he worked for them, knowing VERY WELL the damage he was causing to his "beloved" white race (let's not forget that the cultural downfall of the white race started slowly but surely post WW2).

    I stop here, however, as I would like to listen to your opinions as well and exchange views on the matter.
     
  2. Awake in America

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    I've always gone with 1) Looks white, 2) Acts white, 3) Identifies as white, 4) Is not a member of a certain Middle Eastern tribe that seeks to undermine white people. Your post pings my Spidey Sense as an attempt to deconstruct race.
     
  3. Odysseus

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    Regarding 3, I will have to kindly disagree with you. I've met so many white people (genetically white) that claim to be white only so they can attack the white kind and purpose with a passion. American and British media are FULL of them. No? And your Spidey Sense is not right my friend. I am as Eurocentric as it gets ;)
     
  4. Awake in America

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    My experience is that a great many of the ones who you have a problem with under #3 do not pass the test for #4. That said, they are probably not really acting white, but more like the #4 people, even if they are not part of the tribe. Eurocentric is a garbage term. I've never heard anyone unironically use it, aside from Jewish intellectuals and their African pets.
     
  5. Odysseus

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    I do not know much about the #4, as I haven't met or talked to many Arabs. I've talked with a few Persians and those guys were some of the most hardcore racists (towards blacks, Indians and anyone with a dark skin) that I've ever meet in my life. Actually, I wish Europeans and Americans were as strict and militant as those guys. They self-defined as Caucasian and loved Alexander the Great with a passion (I will get back to Alexander soon). When it comes to Eurocentric, I personally WORSHIP this word more than any other word used today to describe one's love for the greatest race to ever walked on the face of this planet. I used to use the term "pro-white" for many years, but after meeting several wise and smart men of our glorious kind, I ended up with Eurocentric which means that my life and purpose revolves around all things related to motherland and the birthplace of the greatest warriors, inventors, athletes, explorers, philosophers, builders, scientists etc. the world has ever known. "Pro-White" is a completely garbage term in my opinion, and possibly started in USA like every anti-white idea, term and so on in the past 100 years. I am not getting paid to love, worship, protect and promote my race and its rights, so I do not see how anyone who does that out of love, duty and admiration for his race, accepts to be called a "professional." Loving my race hasn't paid me a cent, so I am not a "pro-white" man. I am a Eurocentric man! A term that first was used by a big number of Alexander the Great's soldiers, who were against their king's desire to mix, breed and associate with Anatolian and Egyptian women/culture. They remained Eurocentric and Greek in heart and soul.

    Alexander the Great, despite being Greek, European and arguably the greatest general to ever live, is another that I do not personally consider a "culturally white man", as he was the first who embraced multiculturalism and "diversity." At this point of my life, I just can't see how Alexander did anything for the white kind. Other than being a white man and a genius on the battlefield, he's not someone I would talk to my kid excessively.

    One of the main reasons that our kind is losing power in our Western World, is the fact that we, proud and awaken white brothers, don't know how to use proper language in order to express our love and pride for our history, culture and kind. If you think that Eurocentric is a garbage term my friend, but "pro-white" is a right one, then I would kindly suggest to make some serious researching and reading.
     
  6. Awake in America

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    Arabs? No, you know perfectly well who I mean. Shalom, as your people say.
     
  7. Extra Point

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    The term pro-white does not refer to being a professional. It means "for whites," as in the terms pro and con.
     
  8. Odysseus

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    I hope you are joking with this one. Especially coming from THE country that destroys the white kind on every level.
     
  9. The Hock

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    Kinda reminds me of our old friend Zeus the Greek guy.
     
  10. Don Wassall

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    We used to have vigorous discussion on this topic years ago, but eventually agreed that everyone here roots for whatever athletes they want whether or not another poster considers them "White" or not. The reality is that there is always going to be gradations of "whiteness"; the exact point at which someone becomes non-White will never be agreed upon. Some people are more purist about it than others.

    Personally I would agree with you that many North Africans are primarily or entirely White, others though are not. Similarly, South America may have more Whites on a percentage basis these days than North America. The system lumps together all Spanish speaking people south of the U.S. as "hispanics" and uses them as some kind of non-White racial grouping when nothing could be further from the truth as a significant number of hispanics are of European descent.

    "African Americans" come in all shades and colors, from coal black to 99% White looking, yet all are regarded by the system as full-blooded Negroes (America's notorious "one drop rule").

    I'm more concerned with how cultural communists use language as a weapon. For example, it astounds me how dutifully so many racially aware Whites use the highly complimentary term "progressive" which leftists now use to describe themselves. Progressive comes from the root word "progress." Why any anti-communist would use the term progressive, thus accepting the left's claim to stand for progress, to describe their enemies is beyond me.

    Another one is the way aware Whites follow communists and don't capitalize their own race while capitalizing all the other ones. The symbolism behind such usage should be clear and obvious.

    Then there's the way men have become reduced to males, guys and boys, while it's practically become a hate crime to refer to a woman as anything but a woman. I've observed a huge uptick in the number of women who go out of their way now to call men "boys." There was a line in a recent movie to the effect of "when did girls become women and men become boys"? Of course black men can never be referred to as boys unless one or two is part of a larger group of White men.

    English has been totally politicized over the past half-century. George Carlin was a genius in deconstructing the way language is twisted and used for different purposes. Aware Whites should be trying to do the same. Not using communist words and terminology is an important part of the battle to take our culture back.
     
  11. Thrashen

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    Yes, it’s him. After he was banned a few years back, he mentioned that his wife just gave birth to a son. He mentions the son (“my kid”) in the post above.

    Also, the fact that he’s triggered by Hitler, writes about a Greek general, employs the user name “Odysseus” (a character in Homer’s poem, The Odyssey), can’t understand the simplest terminology (“pro-white”), and has Leonidas (warrior king of Sparta) as his avatar. Not very subtle, haha.
     
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    Agreed. Conversely, whites are also exclusively taught by their handlers to add the term “Nazi” to anything that is considered extreme, overbearing, or unfair. Even the Men’s Rights folks, people you would consider an ally of sorts, exclusively employ the word “Femi-Nazi” to describe female supremacists (feminists), when it makes no sense to describe them as “Female Nationalists.” It’s being used as a linguistic tool to prevent young whites from ever becoming nationalists. You wouldn’t want Fake News calling you a “Nazi,” right?

    As you mentioned, “progressive” (used as a synonym of leftist, liberal, and Democrat) might be the most misused term in all of politics.
     
  13. TomIron361

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    I'll just take one part of this piece. That is usage of words. George Carlin did a skit where he went after "soft words." I never use soft words. The nonsense of "passed away" for dead I never use. It's always dead with me. Same with african America - it's black guy with me. I play all sorts of other word games with younger people as well. For example, I'll say "female woman" rather than just woman and always say "ladies" (even if I'm addressing a group of bull dikes), which I know many younger women don't care for but because of my rank (old person), they let it go. Homos are just homos or **** with me. My one daughter says, dad, you could say homosexual which I reply, yes, of course, but I don't want to. Then I ask her, are you correcting your father? That ends that.
     
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    my peers frequently call me a “language nazi” or “grammar nazi” because of my practice of using our language correctly, and i take this practice that Thrashen points out and spin it on its head. i point out that even after over 70 years of demonizing the Nazis, anyone who has high standards and acts on them or expects them to be upheld is compared to a small group of “evil” Germans. then i pointedly add that those guys must’ve been the most bad ass folks ever to STILL hold a reputation of superiority all these years and fears later. they inevitably are left smiling in agreement and bemusement.
     
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    Sad thing is, calling men "boys" and women "women" will seem quaint in a few years time when even that will be considered "inappropriate", as gender-neutral pronouns and terms will become the norm with criminal penalties being applied if you slip up.

    With the thorough indoctrination of most Millenials, I'm seeing more and more trannies around now in normal settings. One worked at a bank I went to recently and I accidentally said, "thanks, man" when "she" finished my transaction. This may become criminal in the not-so-distant future and make the "news". The others (all Millenials) working with "her" didn't bat an eye and thought everything was normal with this employee.
     
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    Not all ‘adult’ males are (real) men, thus some of these aren’t worthy to be called a “man”. Unless I know (of) and respect a female, I generally refer to them as “skirts” (younger ones) or “hens” (older ones). I most certainly would never refer to a reprobate dyke as a “lady”. Nor do I label f@99ots as “men”. I make it a point to speak as politically INcorrect as possible (given the place & people where I am (at that time)). I avoid being vulgar, but am as anti-PC as I can get away with. ;)
     
  17. Odysseus

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    First off, I am really happy to see you being well and still doing a great job with this website, Don. We didn't have the best "relationship" the first time around and I take responsibility for that. I was way angrier, less wiser, less experienced and almost a decade younger (I think I was 28 or 29 the last time I was here and I am now 37).

    I think that's the most valuable thing I have seen someone posting on this thread so far. You are right; language is a weapon. Even though my fundamental beliefs about race, culture and the white purpose remain the same pretty much, I have changed in many, many ways during the past few years. To begin with I've lived in three new countries and have visited an additional 21 during the past 8 years because of my job. I've had the luck to meet many people from many different countries (other races in few cases as well) and my approach on things has changed quite a bit. One of the things I fully realize now is that the usage of language gives us incredible power, while the use of wrong or foul language can make us look and feel weak. A great example is the one your mentioned (about progressive). I also love the fact that you say "cultural communists" and not just communists, as it's historically proven by now that Western capitalism and philosophy failed miserably in comparison to communism when it comes to race mixing and population. A simple look at Ukraine's, Russia's, Lithuania's, Serbia's etc. sports teams compared to their "Cold War" enemies as USA, UK, France etc. leaves no doubt whatsoever. From our Eurocentric point of view, communism's philosophy was way better than capitalism's. It didn't happen coincidentally either. I have studied the matter in depth and we can analyze it how communism (not as an idea, but the way it was practiced in USSR and Eastern Germany post Stalin) was more patriotic and European than it was originally intended by its Jewish founders.

    Another thing that I have realized during the past few years is how research is EVERYTHING! Challenging and researching on everything you may consider/ed as a "standard" information or "truth," is another weapon in one's hands. For many years I considered a few "select" groups of people responsible for the cultural downfall of the white race globally post WW2 and I always victimized my white people (regardless nationality), while that's not the case always. Historically talking, whites have always set traps for other whites. Ironically, in most of the cases it was usually greedy or corrupt whites who would be digging holes/graves for patriotic whites who naturally loved their countries and cultures. So, despite the OBVIOUS cultural and social war against whites by every minority group on this planet for the past 6-7 decades, I believe that the problem is deeper than I thought until recently.

    I have been in nearly 40 countries during my life. I can't blame one country or another for what's going on now, even though USA is UNDOUBTEDLY the capital of anti-white haters and the country that is forcing to the rest of the world this anti-white agenda through media, movies, music, sports, interracial dating/marriage/porn and so on. Whoever denies that is in a severe denial! However, USA is not the only to blame. I've met anti-white whites in every single of the 40 countries I have been to. Maybe they didn't admit it directly, but I think I can tell by now who's anti-white, who's Eurocentric, who's old school European (not necessarily Eurocentric but he/she loves their country and culture and are against any kind of "progressive change" and "diversity).

    To make a long story short, there are MILLIONS of whites out there who are as racially aware as we are on this forum. The only problem is that they do not see things from our traditional point of view and for some reason (varies from case to case and person to person) they don't love their own skin, heritage, history, culture and so on. So, I do not think anymore that my "poor, unaware" white "brothers and sisters" need to be waked and saved. Many of them have been awakened even before me and their agenda and purpose in life is how to mix our race and eventually destroy it. I was seeing an interview of Boris Becker (the former tennis player) a week ago and the man openly admits that the "racism" will be healed only if the white race extincts by all races mixing to the point there's no white race (make no mistake, he focused on white race vanishing, he was cool with the rest races remaining on the planet as God brought them here). I do not know much about his origins, but he doesn't look Jewish, black, Asian or Aboriginal to me. He looks like a good European boy who hates with a passion his own kind. Unfortunately, there are sooooooooo many like him these days.

    So, that's how I have come down to break race in A - B and C. C is the ideal, no doubt about. A is good as long as let's say A is a boxer and fights against a Wilder and Mayweather and beats them. If A can't be B though, then he's totally useless to me. Dirk Nowitzki is another great example of this. He's great as A, but when it comes to B, dear lord! Has any of you hear the man talking about his views on race? He's blacker than Chris Rock!

    Back to my original post though, I mentioned Alexander the Great and Hitler. Instead of getting serious answers, I was called a Jew (LMAO) and some others were content to realize that I am Zeus from 10 years ago. My concerns and purpose in life doesn't focus on one or two men and I definitely do not care to "compete" against other members in here about "personal matters." My concern is to enrich my thinking even further and if possible to enlighten and get enlightened about matters I may not know. Bottom line is that I visited all central Europe and what literally SHOCKED me is all synagogues were untouched. On the other hand, ancient Greek and Roman temples, Renaissance art and architecture, medieval castles and so many more elements of European culture (including millions and millions of European lives) were terminated at the hands of a "pro-white" man! If anyone feels like he/she can offer a valuable view on the matter, I am all ears!
     
  18. Don Wassall

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    You are welcome here, as long as you can keep your Greek temper under control ;) :D
     
  19. Odysseus

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    He He. Thank you, Don. And no worries about that! I think the "Greek beast" has been tamed by now :)
     
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    I liked Zeus and I'm happy to see him back.
     
  21. Odysseus

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    Hi Charles and thank you for the good words. I am happy to see you too. I hope all is well with you and yours :)
     

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