Who are fastest white people ever?

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In my opinion white people are equal to black people in short sprints. The deficit in the 60m dash is m. greenes's 6.38 to morne nagel's 6.48, or a tenth of a second. M. greene almost positively did steroids, and morne nigel, being from clean s. africa, probably did not. But what aout the 100m dash. Who are the fastest white people in history, and who will be the first to break ten seconds?
 
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i actually dont know. i just know of shirvington, pickerin, and nagel
 

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Marian Woronin (Poland) ran a 10.0 flat in 1984.

Peter Karlsson (Sweden) ran a 9.98 (wind assisted) in 1998.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYlaBfQSDlU

As for which white can break 10 seconds? It could be the following:

Craig Pickering
Christian Blum
Christophe Lemaitre
Jordan Boase
Shane Crawford

There are several white candidates that have surfaced in the last few years. Hopefully, a couple of them will break the 10 sec and 20 sec barriers in no time.Edited by: j41181
 

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First off in the 60 we have had other guys come close to that range. Pappidias ran a 6.50, Shirvington ran a 6.52 and Borzov was around that same area. I could look up but I know there are multiple white sprinters who have run in the low to mid 6.50's range. Just this season we already have 5 whites that have run in the mid to high 6.50's range!

Off the top of my head, these are the most likely to have a chance to run a sub 10 in the future.


Matt Shirvington 10.03 Australia(poss. retired)

Nic Macrozonaris 10.03 Canada

Andrey Yepishin 10.10 Russia

Matic Osovnikar 10.13 Slovenia

Fabio Cerutti 10.13 Italy

Craig Pickering 10.14 England

Jared Connaugton 10.15 and 20.34 in the 200! Canada

John Woods 10.15 Australia

Guus Hoomeged 10.15 Nethelands

Simone Collio 10.16 Italy

Michael LeBlanc 10.16 Canada

Paul Hession 10.18 and 20.30 in the 200! Ireland

Tobias Unger 10.15 and 20.20 in the 200! Germany

Dariusz Kuc 10.17 Poland

Christian Blum 10.26 but has already run 6.56 60 this year so he should smash that time. Germany

Christophe Lemaitre 10.26 at 18 years of age. France

Wilhelm Van der Vyver 10.32 at 19 years of age. South Africa

Stefan Schwab 10.30 but a 6.59 indoors already. Germany

Julian Ruess 10.32 and 6.75 Germany

Shane Crawford 10.34 at 19 years of age. USA

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thnx! had no idea there were so many. in my opinion other than mo greene the highest probability of sub 10 for humans were 100/200 runners. so i expect lemaitre to be the only sure bet of this pack though. im about to google a lot of names now!
 
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random quote i liked:


Originally Posted by denberg
1/ What's the white man's record for the 100m?


Intresting discussion. I have actually written some academic papers about this kind of race thinking in sports (in the swedish language).
To begin with I would like to give you a probably more accurate list of white male top sprinters of all time.

1. Marian Woronin, Poland, 10,00
2. Pietro Mennea, Italy, 10,01
3. Matthew Shirvington, Australia 10,03
=3. Nicolas Macrozonaris, Canada 10,03
5. Frank Emmelmann, Germany (GDR) 10,06
6. Johan Rossouw, South Africa 10,06
7. Valeriy Borzov, Ukraine 10,07

I´m not sure about Rossouw. I just suppose he is white, since the white minority tend to dominate the sprinting events in South Africa, especially if you consider that the time was made back in the 1980´s.

As You can see there is no Patrick Johnson in the list. He could be, it´s a matter of what we all are thinking about when we are thinking about whiteness and non-whiteness. When I was writing about race thinking in sports I Learned about the american way of race segregation in peoples minds. There was an expression: "one drop rule", that indicated that anyone who wasnt "pure" white was more or less "doomed" to a black or some other non-white identity. I suspect the idea lives on these days i USA. I can asure you that it does in Europe to some extent. It,s rather silly and sometimes confusing, since you, if you keep your eyes open, often meet people from the very same family whith the same parents where a daughter look slightly african and her brother look entirely caucasion.

The only reason why we ask such questions wether who is the fastest white man goes back to the neurotic fascination about the black body, and what it can do. Nowbody asks question about black javelin throwers (and I wouldnt be able to make you a list), because there is no bizarr fascination of the white body.
There are no physical differences between whites and blacks that matters. It,s all in our minds.
I´ll give you one example:
USA have always been the dominating country in the 100 meters, but there are no american in the list above. How come? Is it because white americans can´t run or is it because they don´t think they can run. I believe the latter is the case, and that the injection of bad self inconfidence of oneself has reached white Europeans and australians in recent decades. And not the least, its in the minds of the coaches. I have a friend who was a world class pole vaulter until a couple of years ago. He got a athletic scolarship and went over to USA to study and train. When he came back I asked him why there were no black american pole vaulters of high standard (Lawrence Johnson excepted). He told me that he had seen some talents at the university, but the coach sent them away to the sprint team with the following words:
- Pole Vault is to complicated for them. They better do what they are best at.

That was that. I hope my spelling and grammar is´nt to bad. I am Swedish after all.

P.s. At his peak, Borzov would probably have made it under 10,00, if he had been pushed by his oponents. He was that good. d.s.
 

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Great post there, ABsprinter, if there is to be a white sub-10, or sub-20 sprinter, most likely he will come from Europe (Russia included). It's unlikely a white American can do it, the fastest event white Americans can compete at is the 400 meters (Jeremy Wariner). But 100 and 200 meters have many top white European prospects.

This is the fastest white sprinter:

Peter Karlsson (Sweden) ran a 9.98 (wind assisted) in 1998.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYlaBfQSDlU
 

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Actually I believe Nic Macrozonaris ran a 9.93 wind-aided and I don't believe it was "ridiculously" over the limit if I recall. That's the fastest white time I think in any condition.

Patrick Johnson was half white/Aboriginal who ran a wind-legal 9.93. Aborigines haven't been known to have any short sprinting advantage over whites. This could be evidence that a white sub-10 is destined to happen, although you could argue that he got the best of both races combined which you might not get in a pure race white or Aborigine.

Armin Hary ran a 10 flat hand-timed. They rounded to the nearest 20th of a second however in those times I believe (1960) and If you adjust for the hand-time (FAT) and account for error it would probably be anywhere from a low 10.1xs-high 10.3xs in the 100 meter. It was the fastest of his day when there were indeed blacks competing; maybe slightly lesser percentages then today.

I don't know enough about Hary, but with today's faster track surface and better spikes and better speed training he may have gone sub 10.

Are white sprinters getting slower? They certainly haven't gotten significantly faster like the black times have. We need the guys that White Lighting posted on his list to get their confidence back, because other than Shirv (it is almost surly too late to push for a sub 10 come-back) they all have a "chance" with the continued right training, conditions (they are always a variable) and CONFIDENCE. Don't forget the last one.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
 
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Below are the leading white times of 2009:

6.55 fabio cerruti
6.56 christian blum
6.57 craig pickering
6.59 dariusz kuc
6.59 stefan schwab
6.60 simone collio
6.63 nick smith
6.64 Christophe Lemaitre
6.64 Jared Connaughton
6.64 Tobias Unger
 
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cerruti, pickering, kuc, and lemaitre will all improve a lot. i hope blum is ok.
 

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I many not follow sprinting events as much as white lightning, but ever since Jeremy Wariner took the 400 meter gold in Athens 2004, it has revitalized my interest in the sport (I enjoy running very much myself), so I will do as much as I can now to contribute to this section. Even though my primary specialty is Boxing, Basketball, and Tennis.

Welcome to the club ABsprinter, continue delivering great posts like white lightning!
 
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hey white lightening or any1 on right now, do you know of any upcoming races for pickering, cerruti, kuc, lemaitre soon? and if blum is ook?
 
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wow the 2011 euro indoor championships are in france. that is too good to be true for their hero christophe lemaitre to maybe get top 2 or 3 behind pickering. and this year its in turin, italy, where fabio cerruti will look for redemption after false starting in the final of the italian championships. i am liking the way things are shaping up. i cant wait for that cheater chambers to retire and get the hell out of pickering's way!
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Not sure of the next races yet but I will let you know. At the most, these guys might race once before the Euro Indoor Championships. They need to rest their bodies. Why risk injury right before a major track meet? I hope Craig can at least get one more race in for his confidence.

Christian Blum is out for the rest of the indoor season. It was a bad injury but he should be better by the time outdoor season starts. Better to be safe than sorry.

Fabio Cerutti from what I've been told will not be competing since he false started and got disqualified in the final. I hope this is wrong but it is what I have read. They will have two 60 guys with Simone Collio being the big name.Edited by: white lightning
 
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ya i hope craig gets in another race too and gets 6.55. that would be very good for him. i think he will do very well as long as he doesnt sit in the blocks anyway tho.

if cerutti isnt racing i will be very mad. there isnt anyone improving faster than him right now.

luckily there are a bunch of guys under 6.6 so one is bound do go under 6.55 i think, whether it be kuc, kollio, pickering, lemaitre, etc.
 

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I don't get it. That was ABsprinter wasn't it? I don't know he may have been one of Maximus's cronies trying to get on our side; before slyly starting to lambaste white athletes.
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BLUM (GER) is not at the europa indoors. I am hoping for cerrutti (ita) or pickering (eng).

BORIZOV (RUS)the world leader this year had a bad run in the 60h final> got 6th place.

Sexy IRISH girl DERVAL O'ROUKE WON THE 60H womens.

ANOTHER HOT IRISH GIRL IS INTO THE FINAL of the Long jump> The only non-slavic european to make it.
 
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AS for the fastest white ever, that goes to VIKTOR Bryzgin (USSR) who ran a 10.03 into a -2.6m/s headwind>
That ranks as one of the top 5 times ever run in the 100m sprint.
 

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yuri malenkov said:
AS for the fastest white ever, that goes to VIKTOR Bryzgin (USSR) who ran a 10.03 into a -2.6m/s headwind>
That ranks as one of the top 5 times ever run in the 100m sprint.
That was freakin' fast, shame it's still not a sub-10. Woronin's 10 flat is still considered tops. Karlsson's 9.98 (+2.6m/s headwind) could have been the best ever.
 

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Valery Borzov was supposed to be pretty fast. I remember reading in a British magazine some years ago that he was probably the best trained, most technically perfect sprinter of all time.

It's too bad wheegroes think he's a drug cheat. I hope it's not true.
 

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Considering the 200 meter measures top speed better than the 100 meter the fastest white men to ever live were Konstantinos kenteris and Pietro Mennea. Christophe Lemaitre should join the pair in the future, and if he takes steroids like the black athletes he beat in the World Youth Championships, especially the Jamaican one, I can see him running in the 19.5 to 16.6 range. And yes I am familiar with track times, he is that good.Edited by: StarWars
 
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