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I've lost 15 lbs since starting the 1st week of January, but plan to ramp up the diet & training even more going into February. With my current work schedule/load, I usually have to train in the mornings (as I work late & then like to come home & spend time w/ the family). Right now, I'm training "lighter" weight w/ higher reps & 30-45+ minutes of cardio. I intend to increase days training (per week) & cardio per session each consecutive week.
 

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WA33, nah...don't care for the taste of beets...although I know many roots have solid nutritional value. How does beet juice do for ya? I usually just get a few swallows of water before I hit the gym (& have a few sips thru my training), then knock down a quart+ of H2O right after I finish the gym.
 

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WA33, nah...don't care for the taste of beets...although I know many roots have solid nutritional value. How does beet juice do for ya? I usually just get a few swallows of water before I hit the gym (& have a few sips thru my training), then knock down a quart+ of H2O right after I finish the gym.

I just bought some from Food Basics. It's mixed with a little apple juice so the taste isn't too bad. It helps with energy levels.
 

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Thanks WA33 I might give it a try.
 

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Westside said:
Guys, aspirin is a wondrous drug. I take an aspirin everyday for the last twenty years. Last year they did a study on it regarding people with colon cancer. Those who took have a much lower occurrence of this dreaded disease.

dude i got to get on that aspirin regiment. you're like the third person i've seen talk about it in the past month. i'm going to try it. my uncle got colon cancer 3 years ago. he's fine now but the entire familt was scared for awhile there.

kudos for the advice!
 

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Westside, do you take a full-dose aspirin or a child's-dose aspirin? i'm curious as to how strong a dosage one should take in order to get the benefits. thanks in advance for your knowledge.
 

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Jimmy C and Johnnyboy I take one full aspirin a day. Some say take a low dosage one or pink baby aspirin. But I have taken the full dosage one for over twenty years now. It is proven to fight blood clots, heart attacks and colon cancer.

You guys who have not started.....start, after consting ur doctor. He may advise to start out with the low dosage in the beginning. Also it taken along with a moderate level of caffine fights fat.
 
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The following healthy living recommendations will definitely help you to lose weight:

  • Maintaining a food diary - It will help you to see if you are snacking excessively or moderately.
  • Get plenty of sleep.
  • Try to drink at least 8 glasses of water per day
  • Engage in interesting exercises such as swimming, yoga, walking, dancing, aerobics etc
  • Avoid fast food
  • avoid colas and sweets
 

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#1 Lift weights. Building muscle pushes and keeps the fat off. A number of nutritionists and health experts are turning to lifting as better than aerobic exercises.

#2 Replace ground beef with ground turkey. We use ground turkey all the time for things like chili, spaghetti, soups, etc. it cuts down on the fat intake. We also have been using wheat noodles to make spaghetti for many moons.

#3 Not only should you avoid diet soft drinks but avoid any drinks that have artificial sweeteners, they inhibit weight loss.

#4 Eat six meals a day to keep your metabolism rolling. Fruits like grapes, apples and oranges bewteen breakfast, lunch or dinner is the best thing but watch the amount of grapes you eat (sugar).
 

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#1 Lift weights. Building muscle pushes and keeps the fat off. A number of nutritionists and health experts are turning to lifting as better than aerobic exercises.

#2 Replace ground beef with ground turkey. We use ground turkey all the time for things like chili, spaghetti, soups, etc. it cuts down on the fat intake. We also have been using wheat noodles to make spaghetti for many moons.

#3 Not only should you avoid diet soft drinks but avoid any drinks that have artificial sweeteners, they inhibit weight loss.

#4 Eat six meals a day to keep your metabolism rolling. Fruits like grapes, apples and oranges bewteen breakfast, lunch or dinner is the best thing but watch the amount of grapes you eat (sugar).

i fully agree on eveything. 6 meals is a minimum for me.

also, i try to avoid carbs in the evenings, unless i train late.

if i have to eat bread, it's always whole grain and froma bakery that i know adds no **** or sugar.
 

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I don't know how you can eat 6 meals a day and lose weight, unless you are burning off a tremendous number of calories through training and exercise. The average middle-aged person does not burn off calories like that even if he exercises a lot. When I diet I try not to go over 1,200 or 1,300 calories a day. If I ate 6 meals a day that would be 200 calories per meal, that wouldn't work for me I'd be starving round the clock. I eat just one sizeable meal a day when dieting, around lunchtime or mid-afternoon, and even when not dieting when my willpower is good.
 

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I think they mean six small meals a day. That is the secret of the Dolce Diet so popular among MMA fighters.
 

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I figured that, but how many calories are we talking about? In a typical day, what do the six meals consist of?
 

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I don't know how you can eat 6 meals a day and lose weight, unless you are burning off a tremendous number of calories through training and exercise. The average middle-aged person does not burn off calories like that even if he exercises a lot. When I diet I try not to go over 1,200 or 1,300 calories a day. If I ate 6 meals a day that would be 200 calories per meal, that wouldn't work for me I'd be starving round the clock. I eat just one sizeable meal a day when dieting, around lunchtime or mid-afternoon, and even when not dieting when my willpower is good.

My maintenance amount of calories is around 3,000 a day. I east six or seven meals a day at around 400 or 500 calories a day. When I diet I eat 2,000 calories a day and split it into six 300-320 calories a day. I'm not a big guy but my workout in the morning burns a lot of calories. The key is eating the correct foods that keep you full when you are on a diet. If you eat two hard boiled eggs for breakfast that's only around 140-160 calories yet you feel like you've eaten a much bigger breakfast. Protein bars are also a great sweet fix and they will keep you full for hours.

There is some evindence now that states eating smaller meals more frequently doesn't actually raise your metabolism. Who knows. I think it works for me and it also keeps my blood sugar levels down so I don't overeat.
 

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I figured that, but how many calories are we talking about? In a typical day, what do the six meals consist of?

i never counted calories, Don. i do workout 4 times a week plus play rugby in the season, so i burn enough.

for example, today, that's the plan:

breakfast: scrambled egg whites, 1 full egg, with some asparagus and prawn, plus a glass of fresh OJ

snack number 1 (post gym) a protein shake (50g of protein, 50g of carbs, no fat)

lunch 120g of chicken stripes, tomato

snack number 2 3 egg whites

dinner grilled turkey or ground turkey burger, 200g

snack before bed: caseine shake, 5g of carbs, 40g of protein

and Don, you'd be surprised how fast you get used to it. eating many small meals allows me to 1. have them on a go if i have to, seeing how i work irregular hours and nights as well and 2. i never go hungry, nor do i ever overeat (when i'm actually being good, i've let myself go over December and beginning of January, i am back on the wagon now, though.
also, i do weigh 260 now, but going to work it down to my ideal weight of 246lbs or thereabouts
 

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That wouldn't work for me, but I'm a lot older than you and used to eating just once a day on most days. I'm 5' 10" and for the last six years have kept my weight between 165 and 175 by dieting periodically. I also exercise every day and have been for a long time.
 

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Don, I'm 50-years old I eat breakfast at 6 AM, usually a bowl of oatmeal and coffee on weekdays and scrambled eggs and toast on weekends.

At 10 AM on weekdays I have an apple or a couple of oranges. I eat lunch at 2 PM, often two Lean Cuisine microwavable meals or maybe a Subway sandwich (coldcut combo w/out cheese but most everything else on it). I have another apple or some fruit sometime before I go home and then we eat supper at about 7 PM. I usually have something before I go to bed like nuts or grapes. If I can't sleep, a small cup of non-fat ice cream. I'm in graduate school so on school evenings I change things up for class.

I guess you might be confused by my referring to them all as "meals" the in-betweens could be called snacks. I played Rugby until I was 35 and ate more. When I was about 42 I had gained a good deal of weight and went to a nutritionist who suggested the above pattern and guided me through what to eat and what not to. I lost 50 pounds in six months and I've been about 10 pounds under my football/Rugby playing weight ever since.
 
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http://blogs.plos.org/obesitypanacea/2012/05/23/when-you-eat-may-be-as-important-as-what-you-eat/

The results were astonishing. Despite consuming the same amount of calories everyday, the mice that ate on a restricted eight hours were nearly 40 percent leaner and showed no signs of inflammation or liver disease and had healthy cholesterol and blood sugar levels. The group of mice that nibbled day and night became obese, developed high cholesterol, high blood sugar, fatty liver disease and metabolic problems.

Lucky for me i usually skip breakfast and eat lunch around noon then dinner about 6.

When i was in my early 20's and in very good phyical condition, i ate 1 meal / day, as much as i wanted, and that seemed to work well. It was hard to stick with though. Not sure I could do it nowadays.
 

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I've just been cutting out pretty much all carbs for my diet, and trying to eat some protein atleast every 3 hours (usually every 2-2 1/2 hours). Looking at what I've lost, I'd say about 15kg since Easter... possibly closer to 20kg actually. Didn't weigh myself at the start, but once it was harder to notice visually the difference, I started weighing myself. I still keep losing roughly 4kg in 4 weeks, I even took Musashi Fat Metaboliser with L-Carnitine for a little while, but no idea if it helped.

This is all with an all-round weight-lifting routine at the gym on and off (i.e. would go 2-3 times a week, then get busy with uni and not go for a month). Ive also started trying out thermogenic protein snacks (BsC hydrodxyburn) and trying out BsC HydroxyBurn Pro Clinical (just started, will have to wait and see).

Note: I am roughly 6'3, with a little bit of lean muscle (more than the average person due to going to gym for 3 years on and off) and guessin a starting weight of 100-105kg
 

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I've just been cutting out pretty much all carbs for my diet, and trying to eat some protein atleast every 3 hours (usually every 2-2 1/2 hours). Looking at what I've lost, I'd say about 15kg since Easter... possibly closer to 20kg actually. Didn't weigh myself at the start, but once it was harder to notice visually the difference, I started weighing myself. I still keep losing roughly 4kg in 4 weeks, I even took Musashi Fat Metaboliser with L-Carnitine for a little while, but no idea if it helped.

This is all with an all-round weight-lifting routine at the gym on and off (i.e. would go 2-3 times a week, then get busy with uni and not go for a month). Ive also started trying out thermogenic protein snacks (BsC hydrodxyburn) and trying out BsC HydroxyBurn Pro Clinical (just started, will have to wait and see).

Note: I am roughly 6'3, with a little bit of lean muscle (more than the average person due to going to gym for 3 years on and off) and guessin a starting weight of 100-105kg

Welcome to the boards. Good luck with the diet. Here is my advice. Get yourself some American Bodybuilding Speed Stack. It's a great energy drink that is calorie free. Go to the gym first thing in the morning after drinking it. Put in a good hour on the weights. Keep the high protein diet and of course count calories. The fat will fly off.
 

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I've just been cutting out pretty much all carbs for my diet, and trying to eat some protein atleast every 3 hours (usually every 2-2 1/2 hours). Looking at what I've lost, I'd say about 15kg since Easter... possibly closer to 20kg actually. Didn't weigh myself at the start, but once it was harder to notice visually the difference, I started weighing myself. I still keep losing roughly 4kg in 4 weeks, I even took Musashi Fat Metaboliser with L-Carnitine for a little while, but no idea if it helped.

This is all with an all-round weight-lifting routine at the gym on and off (i.e. would go 2-3 times a week, then get busy with uni and not go for a month). Ive also started trying out thermogenic protein snacks (BsC hydrodxyburn) and trying out BsC HydroxyBurn Pro Clinical (just started, will have to wait and see).

Note: I am roughly 6'3, with a little bit of lean muscle (more than the average person due to going to gym for 3 years on and off) and guessin a starting weight of 100-105kg
Just watch out with high protein diets as they can lead to constipation. You have to probably eat more fibre than a regular diet. Also don't get obsessed with looking like model in the weight lifting magazines as virtually all aren't clean and take metabolite pills, flush water before shoots or get their abs air brushed. Getting your body fat below 15 percent is probably the best a normal person can do with a job or full time schooling. Do you run at all that will get you lean if you lift. The only drawback is your lifting totals will decline if you go to hard in your jogging. You also can get injuries to your legs with weights and jogging, but it is great in terms of cutting.
 

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I try to answer anything I can, based on PERSONAL experience and not from what I might read or see in books and TV shows.

Just like the media, most universities (if not all), the banking system and so on, the whole nutritional modern "system" and all these books that they are written and meant to help people, it seems like they are nothing else than another way the "specials" found to ruin others, especially whites. That's my personal opinion, it might sound "too much" to some people, but I think a good look in human nutrition's history could convince more people about my theory.
It's no secret that some of the greatest warriors, philosophers, inventors, explorers etc such as Ancient Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Gauls, Knights during the crusades, ate 4 to 8 meals per day, it's a historical proven fact. If you have noticed in movies or shows, such as Spartacus, The Gladiator, Troy etc you will see that most of the time, historical figures and warriors are chewing something, especially apples, grapes and other fruits.
The problem with modern people, regardless race, is that they think as a meal only something which includes meat, steak, burger, pizza and rest foods of this nature. Someone on this thread, said that he can't understand how one can eat up to 6 meals and I think that shows the whole philosophy most people have nowadays about nutrition.
For the record, according to Diogenes, ANYTHING (including a chew-gum) that energizes the digestive system inside the human body, is considered a meal...........I personally pick to believe what my great white ancestors said and taught us, than some modern "manual guides", which are nothing more than a "chosen" propaganda which makes my people in the western world, more obese, more weak and less manly year by year.

So 6 to 10 meals per day is a good start to change your philosophy and reach your goal. By meal i define an apple, a banana, even a glass of milk with a 10 calories cracker, so don't go too wild and loose.
The second and most important key is to get rid of expressions such as weight "loss"........you have a loss when there's death or you lose a loved person, an arm, an eye.....so why would you use such expression for your body? When I was in the Navy Seals, the fourth day of my training, I did quit an exercise and laid down on my back, i was out of breathe and I thought I would die from heart failure (one of the many times during my service), so the trainer came up to me and pushed me with his heavy boot on the back of my head as I was trying to stand from the ground, he asked me where I thought I was going and I said to him "I quit, I need to lose some weight and come back 3 months later to try again", he replied back to me " If you wanna lose weight to make it here, then cut a leg or an arm and get back in line son"............to this day I am thankful to him that he did not accept my cowardliness and attempt to quit, because probably my whole life and attitude would have never changed for the better, because of this incident (among others).
So I hope you get the point, you need to change philosophy and thinking first, then the way you feed your body..........body and mind go as one, if the philosophy won't change, nothing will. There's expressions you can use such as "getting fit, getting strong, getting muscular, getting power, not weight LOSS". Loss makes us weak and they want us WEAK, remember that!

Third and I finish, even though I would like to say more to such interesting topic, you need to realize that our human body is not designed to carry one specific weight from the day of our birth to the day of our final destination.............We are part of nature and just like the sea, the sky and the rivers, we SHOULD "transform" depending the location, season, temperature and so on.........this what Ancient Greek and Roman warriors&soldiers did, I guess they knew a little better than Oprah and her "special" panels :)

Let me mention myself as an example, I am 1,84cm tall (6 and 3/4 I believe in your system) and my weight during the year varies from 185lbs up to 220 (in the last 7 years, Navy Seals service and after). I feel as healthy and strong as it gets and now I can relate better and understand how people like Dan Henderson, Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture etc can look so fit, strong and healthy at 185 and 220 (for Randy 240 as well). I wish when I was an athlete competing in tournaments, I had the knowledge&experience I have now, or someone with knowledge could guide me and I would have achieved way more and in more weight divisions (I was an eternal super middleweight). Our body is historically and scientifically proven (from 17th century EUROPEAN researches) that includes "αποθηκευτικους χωρους", not sure how to translate this, but imagine it like a storage place in a mall. The main mall, can work fine if it's "full of products", even if the storage place is full, half full or even half empty right?
This is how our body works as well...........in Africa you would need a half empty storage place, in Sweden a half full one and in North pole a full one (by picking the locations I pick the weather and temperatures as well). Right now I weigh 186lbs and I deal fine with the 40 degrees of celsius in Greece. Three days in London I felt kinda cold, I would be more comfortable if I lived there being 205-215 lbs, it's all pure science.


I love the topic, thanks for the question :)
 
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Good post Zeus. I agree with a great deal of what you said.
 

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@Zeus

although I share your vision of actual food system in our societies, I disagree on what causes it: I find it hard to beleive that it's a propaganda for obesity and THEN for weight loss. Food companies are just lurking for the money by appealing to our instincts, we love fat and we love sugar, once upon a time it was extremely helpful to love those extra calorific meals, because food was scarce and we needed to make provisions for when there was none, and our body fat moved up and down with the seasons (like you poetically described as the sea and the nature).
BTW when walking around french cities here I rarely see obese persons or even fat persons among white french people, statistics are becoming worse in France because of the obesity among black and foreign part of the french society.
 
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