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The "famous" Jameis Winston hype is out of this world ! What's CF's take on this guy ? I find it awfully strange how he ran a 4.9 40 his senior year of high school and now he can run a 4.6.
Watch for the next "Great Black Hype."
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He's roughly equivalent to TuhRel Prior. An idiot with limited personal abilities. If the NFL wants him to be successful, though, he will be.
So, what about his college performance? Let's take a look at Florida State's games thus far.
W 41-13 over Pittsburgh
*Paul Chryst is still trying to clean up the disaster left by the one year Pump-and-Dump of Todd Graham. He'll get it done, but not until next season. Pitt was simply overmatched in this game all over the field.
W 62-7 over Nevada
*Nevada is still reeling from the retirement of long time coach and "Pistol" inventor Chris Ault. Instead of maintaining continuity in the program by promoting from Ault's staff, Nevada decided to start over from scratch and hired an outsider with no head coaching experience. To make matters worse, the Wolf Pack was without the services of their team leader and main offensive weapon QB Cody Fajardo for this matchup. Nevada had no chance to win this game.
W 54-6 over Bethune-Cookman
*Not a legitimate victory
W 48-34 over Boston College
*I'm sure most of us watched this game. If not for that fluke hail mary to end the first half, it likely would have turned out differently. BC had FSU and Winston figured out and flustered. But they lost all their momentum and confidence with that play. They were flat the rest of the game and lost.
W 63-0 over Maryland
*The score looks like a blowout, but Maryland kept FSU mostly contained early on. After a dirty high-low "takeout" knocked the Maryland QB out of the game, Florida State poured it on. Maryland couldn't move the ball after that and had to keep giving it back to the bloodthirsty tribals.
W 51-14 over Clemson
*No explanation for this one. Is Clemson the passing equivalent of Paul Johnson's triple option? Great against anyone once and against conference opponents a few times. But once a conference foe has seen them enough, the Chad Morris offense has been completely figured out. That's my guess. FSU was just the first one to do it. It should be noted that a crippled Maryland team (five offensive starters out) played Clemson very well the next week. I suspect this is Clemson's last year of high success. Amazingly good timing for Todge Boid to leave for the NFL.
W 49-17 over NC State
*NC State has a new head coach. Unfortunately, the FSU defense was more familiar with Dave Doeren than NC State's players were (FSU faced Doeren's NIU offense in the Orange Bowl last year). Doeren went with the boneheaded move of playing proven loser Brandon Mitchell for the first time all season (broke his foot early in first game of the season). Mitchell was a graduate transfer from Arkansas. Despite being a college quarterback for four years, he couldn't beat out Redshirt Freshman Brandon Allen at Arkansas, so he transferred to NC State, where he was promised a starting role in a "running quarterback" offense. Unfortunately for the Wolfpack, Mitchell is just plain bad at everything he does. I saw him play for Arkansas. The best thing you can say in his favor is that the Razorback football field has no more problems with moles. This game was over before it started.
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Overall, FSU hasn't been the overwhelming force that they appear to be. They have two good wins on the season. And they don't have any tough matchups on the rest of the schedule. Miami has been exposed as a fraud. Two near-miss games against North Carolina and Wake Forest have removed the polish from this turd. They're undefeated, but only through luck. FSU should win easily. Wake Forest should be FSU's only real competition remaining, as the other teams are dealing with key personnel losses. I just hope Wake has finally figured out what kind of offense they want to run. Changing it up every week hasn't led to a good season.
One more thing to mention about Florida State here.
There are a handful of college football programs (FSU among them) which are "Big Name Brands". These programs will get the top 1% of the top 1% of football players. Even when culled from the black community, that still makes them a formidable force on the football field. These teams will always have a talent and physicality advantage over most of the teams on their schedule. At the NFL level, though, the playing field is fairly equal across the league. A mediocre quarterback like Winston or Braxton Miller can't hide his deficiencies inside the cocoon of a superior team. They will be exposed. This is changing in the NFL (by design), of course. Talent levels are being shifted around to strengthen some teams and weaken others. It's a gradual process, but I think everyone here has seen which teams are being "enhanced" and knows the end result. That's why I don't watch the NFL. It's not Fixed. But it is Rigged.
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bearclaw and Leonardfan were correct in their predictions. Barkley ended up going in the 4th round.
Other white quarterbacks who should have gone higher include Landry Jones and Ryan Nassib, both drafted in the fourth round.
In a league in which having a quality QB is paramount, the fact that these prospects went so low shows an anti-white bias.
If any of these men were black the media would have hyped them and they'd have been drafted much higher.
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Jameis Winston is coming off as either Pondo Sinatra(lead from Party Animal) or Jamarcus Russell II (without the food addiction). "Stealing" refill sodas is the height of stupidity.....:icon_mrgreen:http://espn.go.com/college-football...minoles-questioned-bb-gun-battle-records-show
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Guess this future millionaire cheapskate got a hankering for some grape soda that he could no longer contain. :heh:
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Today is the day a decision will me be made whether they will prosecute da afleet winston for raping white wimmenz. Hopefully he does get charged so he gets suspended and loses bid for heisman.
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Great news we will have more police blotter fodder for Winston for another year at least.....:thumbdown:http://espn.go.com/college-football...ston-not-charged-sexual-assault-investigation
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Okay, so a woman finally realising who her attacker was a month after=lying, but a man who denies the allegations, in fact knew about them since January, instead of saying he had consensual sex, turns down a police interview in January, in November denies them when they go public, then finally after DNA proves he raped her does he finally claim consensual sex.
Apparently the key to getting away with rape, is to claim it was consensual after the evidence is stacked against you.
Apparently the key to getting away with rape, is to claim it was consensual after the evidence is stacked against you.
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Yeah it's been that type of year where the black quarterbacks are getting away with a lot. POS is going to get to play out the rest of the year and possibly get the Heisman.
Another sickening part of this case is that the prosecution decided not to prosecute when another man's DNA was present along with Jamesissies. They felt it would be too hard to prove with two suspects. So another way to get out of a rape charge--make it a gang rape. Then the prosecution won't charge you because it's just all too confusing.
I saw video of a bunch of southern white guys celebrating the dropping of charges against a black man (Winston) raping a white woman. My how times have changed!!
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Good post. You have a knack for putting things into a proper and historical perspective. I can only imagine what the "good ol days" were like....
John Rocker points out some of the double standards taking place (yes, that John Rocker):
What if Jameis Winston Were a White Lacrosse Player?
by John Rocker
With each passing year, we regrettably get more stories of college athletes acting up and getting in trouble with the law. From armed robbery to rape, there appears to be no crime that college athletes aren’t capable of committing.
Dominating the sports world right now is the story of a likely nominee for the Heisman Trophy standing accused of sexual assault. Jameis Winston is the star quarterback for the Florida State Seminoles, who are currently undefeated and ranked No. 1 out of all college teams in the country. In other words, we could potentially have an alleged rapist win both the Heisman and the National Championship.
It’s no wonder this has become a national news story and has risen far above other reports of bad behavior on the part of college athletes. The only story I can remember having this much traction is the Duke lacrosse rape hoax from a few years back. But both cases have major differences and the media are giving this story a much fairer shake than what they gave the poor guys who were accused of rape in the Duke lacrosse case.
For one, the races are switched in the two cases. Jameis Winston is black, while the lacrosse players were white. The police and district attorney’s office responses to both cases have been completely different as well. The allegation against Winston was first docked in December of 2012, and the police have been dragging their heels in handing the case to the district attorney ever since then. The D.A. received the case just last month, and he still hasn’t pressed charges as he “carefully considers” the allegations against Winston.
The case against the Duke lacrosse players, on the other hand, was handled with as much precaution and sensibility as a medieval witch trial. As soon as the accusation was made, the case was immediately taken up by the Durham district attorney, and he made it into a public spectacle that grabbed national headlines. The lacrosse players were proclaimed guilty before their trial even started, and they were transformed into representatives of the vile bigotry that still lives in America, all thanks to one crusading district attorney.
The media also swung the hammer down on the innocent lacrosse players once news broke about the allegations. They were demonized as vile racists, and arguments that they might be innocent were not to be heard. It was beyond a reasonable doubt that they were guilty … until the actual evidence was investigated and it turned out that the whole story was fabricated by the accuser. But that was too late for the reputations of the young men from Duke to be ruined and their educations sidetracked as they were instantly expelled from school once they were charged with rape.
In Winston’s case, there has been much caution in throwing him to the lion’s den, and there have been several arguments made in the media that he might be innocent. He has yet to be expelled from either the team or the university as he continues to lead FSU as the team’s starting quarterback. He has attracted an incredible amount of support and a fair share of positive media on his character and personality. Basically, he has been able to receive the type of fair and balanced coverage the Duke lacrosse players didn’t receive until after they were acquitted. (Most importantly, no members of the Florida State University faculty have replicated the infamous Duke “Group of 88″: those professors who signed an advertisement in the Duke Chronicle that implied they sided with the accuser, Crystal Mangum, only a few weeks after her – ultimately – false accusation were made public.)
So, let’s imagine that Jameis Winston isn’t black or the star football player for the Seminoles. Let’s imagine that he is instead a white lacrosse player, who happens to play for Duke. Let’s say an allegation emerges that he might have raped somebody. Do you think the student body and the school’s fans would rally to his support? Do you think that the Durham Police Department would’ve sat on his case for nearly a year before sending it to the district attorney? Do you think police would’ve made veiled threats against the accuser for deciding to press charges? Would the district attorney carefully deliberate the case?
The likely answer to all of these questions would be no. And if the accuser were black, this story would be another racially charged national news case, and Winston would be portrayed as a modern-day Klansman by the national media, or the reincarnation of the Duke lacrosse players.
So why were the two cases portrayed so differently by the media and pursued so differently by the authorities? I can’t say for sure, but I’m sure if Winston looked a lot more like the average Duke lacrosse player, we’d hear a different story than the one that is currently being pushed by the media.
The key point to remember throughout all of this is that Jameis Winston is still only “alleged” to have engaged in a sexual assault (though DNA evidence was found in the accusers underwear; mind you, DNA evidence from the three white Duke lacrosse players charged with sexual assaults on Mangum was never recovered – but there was still a rush to convict).
Another point to remember is that Ms. Mangum – the woman the media, the Durham district attorney and the Duke 88 were so quick to side with when she made those infamous allegations against members of the Duke lacrosse team – was just convicted of murder and will spend the next 14 years in jail.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/what-if-jameis-winston-were-a-white-lacrosse-player/#fBxR1wIk0cuyLdpj.99
What if Jameis Winston Were a White Lacrosse Player?
by John Rocker
With each passing year, we regrettably get more stories of college athletes acting up and getting in trouble with the law. From armed robbery to rape, there appears to be no crime that college athletes aren’t capable of committing.
Dominating the sports world right now is the story of a likely nominee for the Heisman Trophy standing accused of sexual assault. Jameis Winston is the star quarterback for the Florida State Seminoles, who are currently undefeated and ranked No. 1 out of all college teams in the country. In other words, we could potentially have an alleged rapist win both the Heisman and the National Championship.
It’s no wonder this has become a national news story and has risen far above other reports of bad behavior on the part of college athletes. The only story I can remember having this much traction is the Duke lacrosse rape hoax from a few years back. But both cases have major differences and the media are giving this story a much fairer shake than what they gave the poor guys who were accused of rape in the Duke lacrosse case.
For one, the races are switched in the two cases. Jameis Winston is black, while the lacrosse players were white. The police and district attorney’s office responses to both cases have been completely different as well. The allegation against Winston was first docked in December of 2012, and the police have been dragging their heels in handing the case to the district attorney ever since then. The D.A. received the case just last month, and he still hasn’t pressed charges as he “carefully considers” the allegations against Winston.
The case against the Duke lacrosse players, on the other hand, was handled with as much precaution and sensibility as a medieval witch trial. As soon as the accusation was made, the case was immediately taken up by the Durham district attorney, and he made it into a public spectacle that grabbed national headlines. The lacrosse players were proclaimed guilty before their trial even started, and they were transformed into representatives of the vile bigotry that still lives in America, all thanks to one crusading district attorney.
The media also swung the hammer down on the innocent lacrosse players once news broke about the allegations. They were demonized as vile racists, and arguments that they might be innocent were not to be heard. It was beyond a reasonable doubt that they were guilty … until the actual evidence was investigated and it turned out that the whole story was fabricated by the accuser. But that was too late for the reputations of the young men from Duke to be ruined and their educations sidetracked as they were instantly expelled from school once they were charged with rape.
In Winston’s case, there has been much caution in throwing him to the lion’s den, and there have been several arguments made in the media that he might be innocent. He has yet to be expelled from either the team or the university as he continues to lead FSU as the team’s starting quarterback. He has attracted an incredible amount of support and a fair share of positive media on his character and personality. Basically, he has been able to receive the type of fair and balanced coverage the Duke lacrosse players didn’t receive until after they were acquitted. (Most importantly, no members of the Florida State University faculty have replicated the infamous Duke “Group of 88″: those professors who signed an advertisement in the Duke Chronicle that implied they sided with the accuser, Crystal Mangum, only a few weeks after her – ultimately – false accusation were made public.)
So, let’s imagine that Jameis Winston isn’t black or the star football player for the Seminoles. Let’s imagine that he is instead a white lacrosse player, who happens to play for Duke. Let’s say an allegation emerges that he might have raped somebody. Do you think the student body and the school’s fans would rally to his support? Do you think that the Durham Police Department would’ve sat on his case for nearly a year before sending it to the district attorney? Do you think police would’ve made veiled threats against the accuser for deciding to press charges? Would the district attorney carefully deliberate the case?
The likely answer to all of these questions would be no. And if the accuser were black, this story would be another racially charged national news case, and Winston would be portrayed as a modern-day Klansman by the national media, or the reincarnation of the Duke lacrosse players.
So why were the two cases portrayed so differently by the media and pursued so differently by the authorities? I can’t say for sure, but I’m sure if Winston looked a lot more like the average Duke lacrosse player, we’d hear a different story than the one that is currently being pushed by the media.
The key point to remember throughout all of this is that Jameis Winston is still only “alleged” to have engaged in a sexual assault (though DNA evidence was found in the accusers underwear; mind you, DNA evidence from the three white Duke lacrosse players charged with sexual assaults on Mangum was never recovered – but there was still a rush to convict).
Another point to remember is that Ms. Mangum – the woman the media, the Durham district attorney and the Duke 88 were so quick to side with when she made those infamous allegations against members of the Duke lacrosse team – was just convicted of murder and will spend the next 14 years in jail.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/what-if-jameis-winston-were-a-white-lacrosse-player/#fBxR1wIk0cuyLdpj.99
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On target! The double-standard is alive and well for anyone to see if they will open their eyes. Thanks for posting Don.
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Indeed, Jaxvid hit the nail on the head. I'll be rooting to no end that FSU gets routed by whoever they play, and that the charges are re-instated somehow, and the idiots mourn his downfall.
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Note this TMZ story is graphic in nature. It looks like the bimbo in this story has the morals of an alley cat (at least according to Winston's buddies). Of course this goes on at various campuses across the country with star players but with his minor run ins with the law and this the crow bar motel could be his home in the future.....
eep:http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/05/jameis-winston-friends-oral-sex-more-than-willing/?adid=tmzhero1
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i knew the charges against Winston wouldnt amount to anything. He will most likely win the Heisman too. The need to cover up Manziels underrepresented Freshman season in important. Now they have a half retarded negro rapist to exalt.
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The secondary DNA was her ex boyfriend. Who wasn't even in the state.
The sickening detail is, that a teammate claims to have recorded and then deleted the "consensual sex." Seriously how does a woman let another man record it, then a few hours later report it as rape? That makes no sense.
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Hopefully this turd loses to Manziel by some
miracle.
miracle.
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Hopefully, but I wont hold my breath.
The Heisman is meant to be the award for the "best football player in NCAA". Clearly Manziel, and Lynch are the two best player in NCAA. Its been my observation that the Heisman most always goes to the best player on whichever team the media has anointed.
Hell Winston aint even the best player on his own team. All his offensive teammates are better than him, and his defense makes winning easy for him. Imagine Lynch, or Manziel, or many other white QBs running that offense.
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Maybe if the South had not stopped at "Bull Run" and continued to kick the North's A$$ across the Potomac and into Washington, things might have been different.
I could be wrong, I believe the majority of people that live in Florida are either transplants from the "North" or of Cuban ancestry!
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Maybe if the South had not stopped at "Bull Run" and continued to kick the North's A$$ across the Potomac and into Washington, things might have been different.
I could be wrong, I believe the majority of people that live in Florida are either transplants from the "North" or of Cuban ancestry!
LOL! Indeed. ;-). Yeh, I believe that much of south & central FLA is comprised of latinos & snowbirds (carpetbaggers), but the panhandle & northern part of the state (Gainesville, Jacksonville) still has alotta native Floridians.
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Wow! SchaafC really nailed it! Both Manuel and Smith were hyped up to the point they were the first 2 QBs taken in the draft.
Daniels was also drafted even though he shouldn't have been.
None of the 3 QBs are doing well.
SchaafC made a prediction and it came true. It proves his reasoning was correct. Very Impressive!
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I have to ask a question that, no doubt, many others have asked.
What is wrong with these people?
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they're brainwashed by the media