Vick smuggling dope?

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  1. sport historian

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    Last night on her CNN show, that brilliant journalist Paula Zahn, had two black commentators on. They cried that "the most hated athlete in America is always black." America loves to hate black athletes, is their belief. One of them said, "If this was Brett Favre, this wouldn't be happening." They whined a lot more than this.

    You can find the transcript at www.cnn.com/paulazahn. Its the July 30 show.
     
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    Scenes like this serve to illustrate the enormity of the perception gap between blacks and whites.

    My mind has a hard time comprehending the absolute and utter hubris it takes to say that America loves to hate black athletes when this country fairly worships Tiger Woods.
     
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    Some good points have been brought up regarding the O.J trial comparisons & how it may possibly play out in the Vick trial.

    One big difference though: the O.J. jury was extremely incompetent and the DNA talk was WAAAAYY over their heads no matter how the prosecutors tried to break it down to useful info. They might as well have been speaking Chinese. However, any numbskull on a jury can probably figure out electrocuting a defenseless animal is a bad thing. Plus, one of Vick's co-defendants has already copped a guilty plean & will testify against Vick. I think he's toast...
     
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    I can't recall a public black figure losing in a so-called "court of law." Especially when the topic is racially charged as this one is sure to be. Vick will walk like all the rest. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
     
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    Vick now negotiating a plea deal apparently.

    Check that. Read too fast.

    Vick is now alone as the last two of his co-defendants have cut plea deals. Edited by: Poacher
     
  9. Tom Iron

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    So the BUM vick plea bargained. So much for "Don't Snitch."

    Good riddance.

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    Guilty, Guilty, Guilty...

    As if there was ever a doubt. Does this not mean that he flat out lied when he pled not guilty? He tried to put one over on the country. HA HA HA too bad caste-boy, you should have chosen more reliable "friends."

    I'm not going to speculate as to what sentence he will receive but at this point our CJ system is pretty much "through the looking glass" anyway so a light sentence would not surprise me.

    As far as Vick's NFL career (such as it was) is concerned; the ball is now back in the court of Mr. Goodell. No doubt the hue and cry will go up for St. Vick to be allowed back in the NFL as soon as possible. Could you imagine cheering for this guy as he takes the field? As Dr. Johnson said: "Such stupidity is not found in nature."

    But here again just when you think the white American has hit bottom he pulls out his shovel and starts digging, trying to find new and better ways to grovel and show that he is not one of those evil racists.

    For now I will revel in the sadly predictable self-destruction of the poster boy of our enemies.

    Spin it all you want morons, we're going to be hanging this one around your reptilian necks for looooong time to come.
     
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    Poacher: "No doubt the hue and cry will go up for St. Vick to be allowed back in the NFL as soon as possible."


    I disagree with this portion of your statement. There is no way in holy hell this guy is getting back into the NFL (maybe CFL or Arena, but probably not). Not after his many other offences, his pleading 'not guilty,' then taking a plea only because he was finally caught and couldn't lie his way out anymore.

    Besides, I haven't seen a single nut-hugging, nerdy Jewish sportswriter sticking up for this guy, either. That's when you know you're truly finished...when the masters of brainwashing and deception won't even defend their "Hero" for the past 6 NFL seasons. Wimpy Jewsih Fa**ots like Jim Rome, Mike Greenberg, and Tony Kornheiser have all absolutely condemned and badgered Vick....there is NO way he'll ever play in the league again. NONE.

    But then again, this is America! Now if he had raped a woman, or committed a murder...then he'd be playing in another UNDESERVED Pro-Bowl this season, hahaha.
     
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    Halftime show of monday night football, Chris Berman is talking about Michael Vick going to jail. They are acting like its a funeral, long faces and all.
     
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    What a deal!
    Y'know, with Vick going down the toilet, the Duke Lacrosse players exonerated & Roger "The Hammer" Goodell suspending black affeletes left & right, this has been a fine, fine summer. Unless you're a big fan of the Caste System. Then you are hating life right about now.[​IMG]
     
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    I've been watching the Talking Head shows tonight, lots of talk about Vick. Only one or two defending him. Someone said that Vick was the "Golden Boy of the NFL." Think about that. By the media and fans, Vick was rated ahead of Tom Brady, who won Super Bowls, and Peyton Manning who set passing records, and won a Super Bowl last year. With a $130 Million contract, look at the situation he has gotten himself into.
     
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    does anyone else think this might actually be bad for those of us that are against the caste system?

    i'm thinking with Vick not playing, it will be easier to lionize him. i can see talk about "what could have been." ie winning super bowls, all-time great etc. it seemed like people were just begining to take a more realistic look at Vick's actually performance.
     
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    If Vick goes to jail, will they cancel the dogfighting season? [​IMG]
     
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    no, it was past that point already, even before the whole "who let the dogs out" affair. even sportwriters and Atlanta fans became sceptical of his ability to effectively lead this team onto better things.
    so i don-t think we're in any danger of "what could have been" in his case.
     
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    more on Vick from draftdaddy.com:

    "N.F.L. GM says 'count on it:' Michael Vick will return to N.F.L. .

    DD.comment: The writer in the link above (Mike Freeman) is very close to Jacksonville Jaguars Vice President of Player Personnel James Harris (the Jags de-facto G.M.), so we'd guess that is the source for the Vick story."

    what a surprise, huh... read the whole sickening article
     
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    I think the writer is pretty close to reality on this issue.

    However, The reality of the situation is that Vick isn't finished with his lousy behavior by a long shot. It's what he's about. He can't control himself. He'll definitely commit some othe transgression. What it'll be, we don't now yet, but I assure everyone, he'll do other things. In the end, he'll end up penniless, just like the other jerk, Mike Tyson.

    Years ago, black athletes ended up penniless also (Max Schmeling paid for Loe Lewis' funeral), but they weren't criminals. Now they end up penniless through criminal behavior and their normal stupidity.

    Awhile ago, Newsday a liberal rag on Long island was going to do a where are they now story about ex NFL players, but gave up because so many of them were in jail and living on the street. So many blacks just can't function in this society past playing games. It seems that's all they're about. too bad.

    Tom Iron...
     
  20. sport historian

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    Would any NFL team want Vick 2-3 years down the road if none of the corporations are willing to use him for endorsements?
     
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    Sure, why not. Maybe Ray Caruth will have his sentence reduced due to good behavior and Vick / Caruth can become the next Montana / Rice.

    I think Detroit is where he'll land. Edited by: C Darwin
     
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    Good article by columnist Mitch Albom (author of The Five People You meet in Heaven):

    When being the first is being the worst
    August 21, 2007

    BY MITCH ALBOM

    FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

    In sports, it's good to be original. The first to dunk. The first to throw a knuckleball. The only time you don't want to be original is when it comes to bad behavior.

    Michael Vick is finding this out. Using drugs? Sexual assault? DUI? Waving a gun? As pathetic as it seems, those offenses no longer shock in the privileged world of professional sports.

    But dogfighting? Betting on it? Hanging the weak dogs? Drowning them in buckets? We have not seen that before. Vick, in being accused of such crimes, has invented his own category. Not good. He is out there on his own more than he ever was as a quarterback scrambling from defensive linemen.
    And the government now has him by the knees. All that is left is how hard the judge knocks him over. Vick will plead guilty to heinous charges -- despite once claiming a trial would clear his name.

    In these ways, Vick is an original.

    And he is done.

    A future without the NFL

    Oh, he may come back to football somewhere, at some point. But it will never be for the Atlanta Falcons, and it may never be for the NFL. Vick is already 27. The crimes he will plead guilty to can carry up to five years in prison. Even if it's 18 months, that could be two seasons, and that's a long time to be away from football, a long time for fast legs to get older and slower. Vick already was being labeled more promise than delivery. He is now a public relations nightmare for any future employer.

    Add to that the fact that Vick may face more charges from assorted states. And the claims that he bankrolled the whole Bad Newz Kennels operation, making him more than the man who pitted dog against dog in vicious combat, but the guy who underwrote it, gave it a base of operations and bet on it -- and you have enough for NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to ban Vick for life.

    Not to mention that he lied to Goodell's face. But this apparently was part of Vick's routine, the sadly familiar belief that he is Superman and the rest of the world is there to cater.

    "It's unfortunate my name has to keep coming up," Vick said of these charges to TV cameras a few months back. He said it straight-faced. As late as two weeks ago, Vick's lawyer was talking about proving his innocence.

    Innocence is gone. Guilt is the new currency, and Vick is making deals with it, trying to diminish a professional sack that could plow him off the field.

    No praise deserved for the NFL

    Is there hypocrisy in this case? Of course. The NFL has granted re-entry to players who have been in gunfights, beaten their wives, killed people through drunken driving -- offenses that should be every bit as reprehensible as dogfighting.

    The NFL also may be the biggest inspiration for illegal sports gambling in the country. To see Goodell or other NFL brass hold their noses when gambling is mentioned is to see portraits in comedy. The league winks at, nods at and even encourages betting (why do you think we have point spreads and injury reports?) as long as it can duck a straight line of blame.

    So it should not be a surprise that athletes gamble, too. Where Vick's case veers off the tracks is the blood -- the blood of innocent animals. Because of that, this case can make its own rules, because of that, it is unlikely to line up along the usual racial lines, because nobody wants to defend this practice.

    When he came out of college, when he eluded NFL defenders, when he was the star of video games and the inspiration to thousands of sandlot kids wearing his number, Michael Vick was embraced as an original. And he's going down hard for the same reason -- even if he's the last to realize it.

    In a recent ESPN report, the quarterback is seen walking from a camera, saying, "Everywhere I go, all around the world, people still love Michael Vick."

    Don't bet on it.
     
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    i hope he gets what pete rose got. lifetime ban.
     
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    the naacp in atlanta wants him to return to the nfl after his prison sentence...also compares dogfighting to hunting... [​IMG]
     
  25. Lance Alworth

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    figures it was Shack Harris that thinks he'll be back. Hell, if he's still around in Jacksonville by the time Vick gets out, he'll probably sign him himself
     

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