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Discussion in 'UFC-- Mixed Martial Arts' started by Liverlips, Jul 11, 2015.

  1. Jack Reacher

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    For the most part true. His athletic ability will allow him to pick up what he needs quickly.

    However, he does need to learn to keep his hands higher during stand-up action. I hate to say it, but flapping his jaw with *****-like trash talk and keeping his hands low is an invitation for a broken jaw.

    Yeah, his weaknesses were exposed, but some strengths were underlined. He does have a chin, no doubt about it. And his strikes are pin-point accurate, which Mendes mentioned in post fight conference (it's on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeJgKTY7mfQ).

    McGregor looked very drawn, the weight cut was murder, a lot of this due to his media obligations all over the country - even in the last 2 weeks of prep. He should never do that again.

    With the IV rule coming in, guys like Aldo will be hurt even more than McGregor. I truly believe most of the Brazilians are flat out drug cheats because they can get away with it in Brazil. Look at how Aldo foiled his most recent random test (never mind the x-ray showing a broken rib, an x-ray that could have been from any Joe-blow who'd gotten a rib broken). Aldo has backed out of 5 title fights, and gotten a number of them moved to Brazil. If you think you're going to get a fair shake fighting in Brazil, forget it. Hell, in Aldo v Mendes 2, Aldo got away with that obvious, intentional after the bell cheap shot on Mendes.

    McGregor did prove he's the hardest hitter in the division. Mendes hits harder than Aldo and he didn't faze McGregor in that department. But McGregor needs to shut his mouth while fighting and concentrate on not getting hit so much. Even when you have a rock-slab chin, the other guy can get lucky if you keep dropping your hands and flapping your gums. You can bet that Aldo is not going to want to simply stand and go toe to toe with McGregor. If nothing else, eventually McGregor will get him against the fence and tee off on his noggin 'til it's lights out.

    If Conor works on that ground game of his - which I believe he will (he has Gunnar Nelson to help out!) - gets his hands up, and stops yakking during the fight, and starts his cut a month out now that IV's are going to be a thing of the past (you can bet a lot of cheats are already working on this), then he could start a long run as champ. Or maybe he and Aldo will both have to move up a step. The IV use helps a lot of fighters come in 15 - 20 lbs heavier, and this happens more in boxing than is admitted (for instance, when Andy Lee fought Peter Quillen, the melanin enhanced fella showed up on fight night looking to be about 20 lbs bigger than Lee, which the announcers kept trying not to mention - and Quillen had missed weight anyway).

    Conor is better than I thought. And he is tough, which Mendes admitted and the rest of the world witnessed it. He did take some brutal elbows on the ground and didn't let it affect him. He went right back to his game-plan once he got to his feet. His scrambling was better than I thought it would be. Conor's mental toughness is top notch.
     
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  2. Jack Reacher

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    From McGregor's immediate post fight reaction, and his words at the post fight press conference, it was obvious the world had been lifted from his shoulders. I think Dana liked the character McGregor created and then it turned into a monster that McGregor had to ride. But I'm not sure Dana and crew like McGregor per se. The UFC likes the money, but I have little doubt they were hoping for some kind of media crush and glory like this for Jon Jones during the years that they tried to build up that criminally inclined, steroid enhanced, coke fueled fraud. The UFC had been ramming the hype about Jones down everyone's throat for years and it didn't work.

    McGregor has to be given some credit for turning himself into this character and having the balls to run with it. If he had been black or brown, the media would have helped him every step of the way, they would have adored him. Being white, he was a lot of the time presented as a nut, irritating, with lots of sideways swipes at him and the Irish, you name it. The media overplayed some things in the hopes of him falling on his face. You never see that with non-white fighters or their people or countries of origin. If anyone thinks a black or brown fighter is going to be ridiculed by the media, or for example Brazil or Mexico mocked, it'll never happen in "America's" MSM. But Whites from America or anywhere else are fair game for hate and ridicule and so are their nations.

    McGregor was under tremendous pressure in many ways, much more than Joe Rogan alluded to as McGregor was getting entering the Octagon last night. Give him credit, he didn't crack. Not one bit.

    The UFC has a cash cow, but the cash cow isn't the color the powers that be in the media - or in the world for that matter - want. McGregor is in a very odd position in some ways.
     
  3. WHITE NOISE

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    Outstanding analysis of the controlled UFC melieu that is essentially owned, bought and paid by the Jew corporation ZUFFA along with the 9% owned by Dana White.
     
  4. elispeedster

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    I dont think Lorenzo Fertita is Jewish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuffa
     
  5. Vanilla_Sky

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    The Fertitas are Sicilian
     
  6. WHITE NOISE

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    With a jewish mother from what I could discern from the net. Could be wrong though.
     
  7. Wes Woodhead

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    It doesn't really matter how Jewish they are. IF they weren't absolutely in bed with the jews, and their politically correct propaganda, then the fights would simply never get on TV. Therefore brown pride tattoos are celebrated, while White pride is not allowed.
     
  8. Old Scratch

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    I don't think McGregor is a "character," I think he really means what he says other than some things said to rile his opponents and some obvious lines that are pro-wrestlingesque. That's his personality. What separates him from the rest is natural charisma. I don't think he just flips it on for the cameras.

    Mendes said, "I'm going to destroy this dude," "It's time to take what's mine," "I'm the Mike Tyson of the division," "Conor's never faced anyone that thinks they're the baddest dude on the planet and I have that mentality," etc, and most fighters say similar things.

    That's not that much different than what Conor says, but he exudes way less charisma and doesn't have Conor's way with words.
     
  9. Old Scratch

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    A few years ago a fighter named Benjamin Brinsa was signed and then cut from the UFC before he ever had a fight because some Internet detective and wannabe journalist found a picture of him hanging out with people associated with neo-Nazi groups (a "hooligan group" for soccer), but there was zero proof he had any actual ties to them. He was guilty by association. Literally the reason he was released was "alleged ties to neo-Nazis." There was an Australian TUF fighter (Tyler Manawaroa) that had a "racist instragram post" from YEARS ago, when he was a teenager and therefore could never get a UFC contract.

    But "Brown Pride" with obvious "racist" connotations is OKAY. It's not even "racist" anymore since they're trying to change the definition, only the "oppressor" group can be racist, and only white people can be oppressors.
     
  10. Jack Reacher

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    Exactly.
     

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