UFC 165

Discussion in 'UFC-- Mixed Martial Arts' started by Thrashen, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. Thrashen

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    So this is the result when Jon Jones, the most “electrifying” and “dominant” MMA fighter in the world, actually has to fight someone with a similar body type? After seeing the shots Alex endured against Shogun and Silva, I knew Jones didn’t have what I took to KO Gustafsson. Like the diamond chin of Vitali Klitschko, I don’t think it’s physically possible to knock the Swede out. So much for those “20-1” odds, huh?

    Here is the first time anyone has taken Jones down...

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    Alex is the only fighter to make Jones look average. If there is a rematch, I think Jones will be advised not to stand and bang with a man who couldn’t be KO’ed by a lead pipe to the cranium. Then again, Jones couldn’t seem to take him down (only a 1 to 10 success rate) last night, either.

    So how will the “Pompous One” (who looked sullen, battered, and frustrated in the post fighter interview) fare in a rematch against a guy who isn’t intimated by his “superhuman” reputation, out-pointed him all night, was the first to take him down, won 3-4 rounds against him, and absorbed every one of his punches, vicious elbows, and brain-rattling head kicks without the slightest sign of wilting. The “mystique” has officially withered...

    [video=youtube;ClO21tg15JI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClO21tg15JI[/video]

    A truthful article concerning the fight…

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...man-sent-to-hospital-after-close-decision-win

     

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  2. whiteathlete33

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    I didn't watch the fight but about 90 percent of the DWF's are saying Jones lost. If these self loathing negro worshippers are saying it then Jones lost without a doubt. Another robbery of a white guy and the negro can prance around victorious. If seen plenty of robberies in boxing through the years as well but it almost always goes to the negro.
     
  3. Old Scratch

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    Gus stuffed almost every takedown except for one in the 4th(?) but he immediately got back to his feet so that takedown was for naught. I was extremely impressed with his TDD but I, unlike the detractors that only looked up his record, already knew it was good because I actually watched the Phil Davis fight and saw that he actually stuffed all of Phil's takedowns as well and was only revered on his own attempted takedown that led to the submission.
     
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  5. Kaptain

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    I just watched the fight which you can find doing an advanced search on google videos - last 24 hours. Gustafson won rounds 1-4. Jones won 5 as gus was tired. Next time they fight Gus won't have as much nervous wasted motion. I think he will knock him out. Was each round close? sure. But Gus clearly was dominating with his punches. Jones hardly rarely land a punch and his head kicks were so weak that Gus ended up just blocking them and moving on as if nothing happened.

    I predict that there will NOT be an immediate rematch. The PTB are very predictable.

    Here's rounds 1-4 I just found that is still up:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T0f3k7uCJI[video=youtube;2T0f3k7uCJI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T0f3k7uCJI[/video]
     
  6. Kaptain

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    complete version in english

    [video=youtube;oEZDWskFUhc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEZDWskFUhc[/video]
     
  7. Borussia

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    It's been about 2 weeks since this clash and I am still astounded at the quality performance Gus put forth against "the world's best p4p fighter" (which he is not).

    Gus won this fight. Razor close and Jones's relatively strong finish somehow carried the decision. Was this a close fight? Sure. Gus had a few opportunities to overwhelm Jones and grab this fight clearly. Both were technically and strategically very adept...perhaps a bit too strict in Gus's case. Jones was ripe for the picking at certain times and although a tremendous fighter, he was close to cracking a couple of times.

    The spinning elbow that opened up Gus was good highlight for casual fans and media, yet Gus overall did a lot more damage and was more active. If he could have landed some nice stuff in the 5th, he would be champion right now.
    Yet, one kind of gets the feeling that the machine tied up in Jones and the better business decision is to keep Jones as champion and yes, I tend to agree that challengers need to objectively defeat the champions in close battles to win the belt.

    Decisions can be a gamble and the result in this one does not describe the overall fight from beginning to end.
    Did Jones finish a bit better? Yes. What totally saved Jones was the one take down he got on Gus and the spinning elbow that gashed Gus. However, Gus won 3 rounds and 2 of those are not debatable. In fact, many people think you could give the 5th a draw.

    I think Gus won this fight. He will get another shot and he will win.

    The key for Gus is to get a fight with a quality opponent and defeat him and then fight and batter Jones to become deserved champion.

    Any early thoughts on the Glover-JJ fight?

    Many people are stating that although slow, Glover can defeat Jones especially now that people see the obvious : JJ is a good fighter with some dandy movie type moves and his main advantage is leverage and reach.
    Someone will study JJ, find where is is vulnerable and exploit it. And leave him a defeated mess.

    Many people think Gus did just that 2 weeks ago in Toronto.
    One of the best UFC fights in recent memory.
     

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