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Did you see the thread with the video on how Barca plays which is like Spain?
No I didn't. I'll have to check that out.

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Torres is the first man to score in two European Championship finals and draws level with a host of others on three goals for the tournament.

Awesome match. 4-0 Spain blowout. Spain's style of play is beautiful, like master artists.


Hey BSPN, has Spain and Torres (since he is the first man to score in two Euro Championship finals and scored three goals (the same as Mario)) "turned the soccer world on its ears"? You utterly predictable Caste whore media pr*cks.
 

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wow, did you see this ****in idiot Balotelli just now? pushed some Italian assistant coach and just took off.

noone here is surprised. i hope there will be outlash for that and not "oh, it's what he does"

They already said he was rushing to see his family. They said this is a stepping stone to a great career for him.
 

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wow, did you see this ****in idiot Balotelli just now? pushed some Italian assistant coach and just took off.

noone here is surprised. i hope there will be outlash for that and not "oh, it's what he does"

A first rate jerk right to the end. Let's hear what the BSPN jerks have to say about their shirtless hero now. Chris Fowler is probably in a London pub crying the way he did the night Uruguay beats his African heroes Ghana.:lol:
 

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No I didn't. I'll have to check that out.

From Yahoo Sports:
Torres is the first man to score in two European Championship finals and draws level with a host of others on three goals for the tournament.

Awesome match. 4-0 Spain blowout. Spain's style of play is beautiful, like master artists.


Hey BSPN, has Spain and Torres (since he is the first man to score in two Euro Championship finals and scored three goals (the same as Mario)) "turned the soccer world on its ears"? You utterly predictable Caste whore media pr*cks.


No fawning over Torres. He's also the Golden Boot winner. I'll bet no story on the front page of NYT sports pages on him tomorrow like they had of Mario today.
 
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Very proud to see this all white all Spanish all class team go to see their white children at the end of the match. I'm just a little sad for Llorente who didn't play one single minute in the tournament. For Balotelli this summarizes everything (hope is going back to Ghana) :

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They already said he was rushing to see his family.
Haha, such predictable Caste apologists.

Yup, when I'm in a hurry to see my family after work, I make sure to push my supervisor to the ground and then run out of the building to my car.
 

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guys, check this out:

-2004 euro champs: winners= greece, 100% white
-2006 world cup: winners= italy, 100% white
-2008 euro champs: winners= spain, all white except 1 brazilian
-2010 world cup: winners= spain, 100% white
-2012 euro champs: winners=spain, 100% white

the last time a team that was not 100% white or close won a major tournament was 10 years ago, brazil in 2002
 

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Congrats to Spain for making history!! 3rd major title in the last three tries!! I think it'd be awesome to see Spain with a 2nd World Cup in Brazil.

For the record, I love how Spain plays as well. I hope they continue to play like this, despite people saying it's "boring."

I'm sure Ballotelli was in a rush to see his family... ya right; I agree with Highlander.
 

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Very proud to see this all white all Spanish all class team go to see their white children at the end of the match. I'm just a little sad for Llorente who didn't play one single minute in the tournament. For Balotelli this summarizes everything (hope is going back to Ghana) :

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balotelli has been awfull, as agile as an elephant, as slow as a slug

i think that the top scorer of the tournament is determined on the number of goals, and number of assists if 2 players have the same number of goals

so torres should be ahead of balotelli, maybe even cristiano ronaldo
 

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i think that the top scorer of the tournament is determined on the number of goals, and number of assists if 2 players have the same number of goals

It's Torres: 3 goals, 1 assist and fewest minutes played
 

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guys, check this out:

-2004 euro champs: winners= greece, 100% white
-2006 world cup: winners= italy, 100% white
-2008 euro champs: winners= spain, all white except 1 brazilian
-2010 world cup: winners= spain, 100% white
-2012 euro champs: winners=spain, 100% white

the last time a team that was not 100% white or close won a major tournament was 10 years ago, brazil in 2002

You are right my friend, I would add the golden Olympic medals of Argentina, a heavily (fully in my opinion) white dominated team during 2004 and 2008
 

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It's Torres: 3 goals, 1 assist and fewest minutes played

great, perfect then

it's funny because he was mocked a lot and the anti-white media was always making jokes about how bad he has been this past season
yet he scored important goals in champions league, and he is the top scorer of this tournament

i still think that it's not the best torres ever (he's not the same since his big injury) but he silenced the critics, and has an incredible palmares now
 

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To be honest I think that having family members who were professional footballers could work both ways (due to the burden of expectations placed on the players and the greater difficulty of proving themselves)…for example, I have watched a number of FC Barcelona games and Victor Valdes has generally struck me as a rather capable goalkeeper. However, he is third choice (behind Pepe Reina) in the Spanish national team and my impression is that fans generally underrate him in comparison to Spanish goalies who ply their trade abroad (their assumption is that he doesn’t concede much only because of Barcelona’s possession-oriented game, but there have been a number of matches in which he has been quite decisive – like the 2009 semi-final against Chelsea when Valdes made a number of good saves and he also held his nerves in the final against Manchester United, denying Cristiano Ronaldo on two occasions). Valdes may never receive much credit unless he proves himself with another club or with the Spanish national side.



each spanish goalkeeper has its weak points: valdes has trouble when he has to get out of his goal (when he has to pick a ball that's far from him before the striker gets it)
casillas is bad on the corner kicks and crosses (we could see it tonight)
and reina lacks consistency
that's why i think that the best goal-keepers in the world are lloris and neuer (lloris is rumored to sign for arsenal by the way)

casillas stands out because he has amazing reflexes and does great spectacular saves, valdes too
but valdes probably is not the second goalkeeper because there are already a lot of players from barcelona in the spanish national team
suporters of other clubs in spain would complain




Gerard Pique initially felt that he won’t get that many opportunities with Barcelona and played for Manchester United before returning to Spain and signing his first professional contract with Barcelona.

you make it sound like turning pro in manchester united is a bad thing :icon_wink:

In essence, I partly agree with you and the lack of meritocracy could be an issue, but unfortunately what I have noticed (at least in Eastern Europe) is a dangerous trend - fans tend to be way too suspicious of allegedly “well-connected” local footballers and this causes them to pressure club owners and coaches to buy foreign players. So, the worst case scenario becomes a reality (neither those locals with unknown family names nor those with important parents get to play for their team due to competition with foreign players or if they do, they are booed or criticized by supporters). I am generalizing of course, but I have some friends from Balkan countries who have told me of such cases (e.g. Berbatov was initially not well-received by some of the CSKA Sofia supporters for reasons connected to what I mentioned above and it took him a while to win them over).

ofcourse i don't wish them to be replaced by foreigners
actually out of the players i listed, many are foreigners, like zidane's sons, the dos santos brothers, ect
i am just worried that they might miss some local talent
like i said in other countries there are not as many players with relatives that play football
so i am worried about this

in france you can see the difference between the white players who have family in the business and the others (because french clubs were racist and didn't pick the young white talents, as laurent blanc said)

take gourcuff and nolan roux for example: as talented as they are (especially gourcuff) they had it easier than other whites like koscielny, ribery or giroud who had to play in 3rd division until very late sometimes

As for the refereeing, I am not sure it is biased (I remember instances in which Russia and England have borne the brunt of poor refereeing decisions against small countries like Slovenia and Romania), but I concur that it’s rather inconsistent and certain South American sides like Peru (that play with a blend of finesse and physicality) may be unfairly punished on occasions…Btw, if I recall correctly that Antonio Rattin’s sending off for “violence of the tongue” during the 1966 World Cup and Rudi Voeller’s red card (despite not retaliating after being spat upon in a 1990 match vs. the Netherlands) made the list of “top 10 unfair dismissals in the history of the game” a number of years ago.

when i mention the "big countries", russia is not one of them right now, they are not the kind of team that has a lot of fans like spain or germany

when you say that the final will be spain-italy you get a lot of viewers
if you say that the final will be russia-england, you have less viewers
if you say that the final will be greece-ukraine, it's a catastrophy for UEFA

at the world cup, the perfect semifinalists for the fans or FIFA would be an african country, an european country, an asian country and brazil or argentina
that's why the south american countries got awfull refereeing, because there was too many of them in the 8th finals (not saying that the referees are corrupted or recieve orders from FIFA, but it could also be because of sympathy for the last team of a continent still in the tournament)
 
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Another example – Arteta made it very clear: “I am Spanish first, I would prefer to represent Spain, but if no such opportunity arises, I would be glad to play for England”. I don’t think that those who make such statements should be considered for selection (even if they were ½ Dutch and ½ English). It’s unfair to local lads who are truly patriotic and want to play for their home country.



that would be a disgrace
they are doing everything wrong there

the reason why spain is dominating is because they have good youth development (del bosque, the spanish coach, said it : http://football.thestar.com.my/2012/06/30/spain-success-down-to-youth-academies-del-bosque/ )

what they did well was having very good criteria when picking young players (they choose skilled players ahead of bodybuilders at young age)
laurent blanc said it in a secret meeting with the purpose of saving french football: http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/13607-French-Soccer?p=230956&viewfull=1#post230956

so england, and the other countries, need to learn from that and not naturalize spanish players, naturalizing foreign players would kill even more the national team because young talents couldn't play in the national team because a mediocre spanish player plays instead (mediocre because if he considers playin for another country, that's because he was not good enough to play for spain)
 
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The way I see things and as a resume, June has been a great month:

-Golden Dawn was re-elected in the Greek parliament. If one told me that back in the 1998 when I got registered in the party, I would think he was either crazy or made fun of us.

- A fully white team won Euro, broke an all time record and the conversation about GOAT team ever has already started.

- My country Greece, another fully white team, made it to the quarters

- Rafa broke an all time record and won the 7th FO

-Fedor dismantled Rizzo and retired as the GOAT ever (in HW division for sure GOAT)

And I am looking forward for a total dominance of the white kind in the upcoming Olympics (the usual 70% of the medals if not more), Greece to win at least 10 medals, Klitschko to retire Thompson next week, Sonnen to dethrone Silva and last but not least Greece Basketball team to qualify at the Olympics in the pre-Olympic tournament which is starting tomorrow in Venezuela..........Really anyone following FIBA or Euroleague basketball in here?
 

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Great performance by Spain in the final. I think they played different from their "Eunuch" games against Portugal and Croatia, also because Italy's style was not as defensive as the other two teams. There were a lot more verticalizations, not only the enormous number of mind-numbing lateral passes that almost forced me to turn off the TV in their game against Portugal, the game was much more vertical, at the expense of posession (which was 50/50 this time)... With less possession they played better. One thing that has to be said about Spain is their excellent defense and especially their goalkeeper who didn't make almost any mistake the whole turnament conceding the grand total of only 1 (one) goal (!?) People talk a lot about their passing, but look at this granitic defense! Their defense won them the title, more than their offense. The defensive masters - Italy - did not come even close with their master defender - Chiellini - actually having a pretty miserable tournament.

Balottelli was back to his useless self today, but with 2 goals scored to Germany he has cemented his place in the Italian team for years to come. He (and his multikulti apologists) are going to live of these 2 goals for a long, long time. There is obviously a lot of "public relations" work around Balottelli aimed at making his persona more palatable to the Italian fans. For example, you can now see him singing the Italian national anthem (or moving the lips) while before he was not doing so (someone has told him to do it). Another example - after scoring his goal against Germany, he went to embrace his adoptive "mom" who was conveniently brought in from Italy and seated in front rows. Italians have a particular soft spot for moms ("mammismo") - more so than other nations - so this is another obvious publicity stunt. When he was winning someone told him to take off the shirt (which I never saw him do) and show his body in a display of black "athletic superiority" that will be repeated over-and-over by the media and will go down in memory as one of the key moments of this turnament (yellow card was a small price to pay for that). When he lost, he was "crying" (not sure if it was for real or pretending) and the camera was again on him. So there is obviously a Public Relations team which is advicing him and trying to use his image to soften Italy to multiculturalism (a country that was and is pretty reluctant to accept it). I would not be surprised if there are more than a handful of Jewish advisors milling around him... This is their typical "modus operandi".

I think Spain was very convincing today, but not as convincing the whole turnament, with several pretty mediocre games. Balottelli aside, the two "big" tems which were racially most White were in the final (Italy played with 10 Whites, Spain with 11, although Silva is part Asian). The other "big" teams, favourites to potentially win the tournament (Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, France, England) were all "darker". Some teams that dropped out in earlier actually played well - honorable mentions go to Grece, Sweden (unlucky side), Croatia, Denmark, Ukraine. Biggest dissapointments - Netherlands, Russia, Poland.
Large percentage of goals scored are from headers (more than 25% compared to the usual 15-20%) and increasing importance set pieces, especially in-swinging free kicks and corners was another characteristics of the tournament. From the tactical point of view there has been a tendency to flood the midfield with a large number of players, so an increasing share of the actions came from the wings (wingers or advancing fullbacks), maybe that's one of the reasons for the large share of headers? The tournament once more confirmed the positive trend for the more technical, passing style over the physical, long-ball style of play. I like the Euros more than the World Cups and now I have to wait another 4 years for the next Euro in France.
 
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When it comes to Polanski and Boenisch, sure, they were both born in Poland, but so what? They represented Germany at U-21 level and - most tellingly - each player stated that he did not wish to play for Poland and would remain "German"...

Let's say it was an exchange - Germany swapped Polanski and Boenisch for Klose and Podolski. Fair?:biggrin:
 

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If everyone feels the need to inevitably dissect Germany's lack of tournament triumphs since Euro 1996, here is something to ponder. Germany's game - and, most significantly, their defence - traditionally placed great emphasis on a ruthless, "win at all costs" philosophy characterised by the often brutal kicking of opponents, cynical fouling, et cetera. This was a somewhat "South American" approach, having a lot in common with the roughouse "styles" of Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay who routinely used such spoiling tactics to disrupt their opponents' rhythm and dictate the tempo of the game.

European sports journalists, especially those in England, rather euphemistically labelled the Germans' openly nasty play as "physical", "determined", and "efficient", while unhesitatingly decrying the abovementioned South Americans (with the notable exception of Brazil) as "dirty", "unsportsmanlike", and even "savage". The difference in the two sets of descriptors can possibly be attributed to the Germans' general lack of histrionic diving, rolling about on the ground clutching feigned injuries, spitting at opponents and other such charming hallmarks of South American football. Nevertheless, referees often permitted the Germans to get away with quite startling numbers of fouls, something which was undoubtedly a contributing factor to their successes up until the mid-1990s.

Nothing better illustrates the leeway officials seemed to allow the Germans than Toni Schumacher's infamous foul on Patrick Battiston in the semi-final of the 1982 World Cup:

[video=youtube;3byTNRoxujo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3byTNRoxujo[/video]

Note the cold indifference of that disgraceful bastard Schumacher, especially his dismissive wave of the hand at 0:42. What was his punishment? Schumacher didn't even receive a yellow card and Germany "won" on penalties after the match finished 3-3 following extra time. Schumacher should have been sent off, which in all probability would have meant that Germany wouldn't have reached the final.

With the advent of the all-seeing multitudes of cameras and therefore concomitantly stricter attitude towards fouling, the Germans' traditional "methods" required amendment and their results suffered. Following their Euro 1996 success, the Germans were knocked out of the 1998 World Cup at the quarter finals stage, losing 3-0 to Croatia after Christian Worns was red carded for a foul on Davor Suker. The Croatians took full advantage of the sending off to take the Germans apart.

The next tournament was Euro 2000, in which Germany failed miserably, finishing last in their group, losing to England and Portugal and drawing with Romania. They apparently bounced back at the 2002 World Cup by reaching the final, which they lost 2-0 to Brazil. But that so-called "success" was rather illusory, for the Germans benefitted from an astoundingly favourable draw.

In the first round, they drew with the Republic of Ireland and beat Saudi Arabia (8-0!) and Cameroon. The second round saw them beat Paraguay 1-0, with that slim scoreline repeated against the United States and South Korea in the next two rounds.

Then came Euro 2004 - which was another bust as the Germans failed to win a match, drawing with the Netherlands and Latvia, before losing to the Czech Republic.

Germany hosted the 2006 World Cup, finishing third but, yet again, this wasn't all that it seemed. In the first round match against a very ordinary Poland side which had been reduced to ten men after 75 minutes as a result of Radoslaw Sobolewski's second yellow card, Germany only scored in injury time to record a 1-0 win. The other nations in their group were Ecuador and Costa Rica...

In the second round, Sweden had a man sent off after 35 minutes.They got past Argentina in the quarterfinals on penalties before losing the semi-final to Italy 2-0 in extra time.

As we saw in this tournament, Germany's defence isn't up to snuff against a determined and disciplined opponent who can soak up the heavy German offensive pressure. The Germans still haven't quite come to grips with having to play a "cleaner" game in which the aggressive overuse of fouls to defend and win possession in midfield is no longer acceptable. I'll wager that Schumacher is less than happy...

I definitely would agree with your assessment. I remember a quarterfinal game Germany-Croatia at the Euro 96 tournament where Germany was fully employing the ruthless tactical fauls you talk about, Jurgen Klinsmann being one of the worse offenders. Even the winning goal for Germany was scored after an obvious foul when Markus Babbel slammed against Nikola Jerkan and leveled him to the ground, a foul that the Swedish referee did not bother to call. However, multiculturalizing their team also probably weakened their cohesion. I notice that they don't fight any more the way they did in the 70s and 80s. In these times they were fighting like hell untill the end even if they were 2 goals down and would often overturn results. Now they don't. Did their mentality change? :huh:
You also forgot to mention their decent performance (3. place) in the 2010 World Cup where they steamrolled both England as well as Argentina, going out in a 1:0 defeat against Spain, in a pretty levelled game decided from a corner.
 
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Great analysis, @Porthos! Congratulations to all Spaniards, Spain were absolutely amazing, this was the most dominant performance in a major soccer final that I have ever seen (though Italy were not toothless when it came to offensive play). Tough luck for Italy (as Thiago Motta was injured shortly after coming on and they had to play with 10 men), but Spain were on another level and would have won even if it had remained 11 vs. 11. Spain were not only superior in terms of technique, but their physical fitness was also top-notch and it seems as if they wanted it more than Italy. Iniesta is deservedly the player of the tournament (and Torres is the top scorer). As a consolation for Italy, they also qualify for the 2013 Confederations Cup (in addition to Spain).

that would be a disgrace
they are doing everything wrong there

the reason why spain is dominating is because they have good youth development (del bosque, the spanish coach, said it : http://football.thestar.com.my/2012/...es-del-bosque/ )

what they did well was having very good criteria when picking young players (they choose skilled players ahead of bodybuilders at young age)
laurent blanc said it in a secret meeting with the purpose of saving french football: http://www.castefootball.us/forums/t...l=1#post230956

so england, and the other countries, need to learn from that and not naturalize spanish players, naturalizing foreign players would kill even more the national team because young talents couldn't play in the national team because a mediocre spanish player plays instead (mediocre because if he considers playin for another country, that's because he was not good enough to play for spain)

Exactly, it doesn't make sense - how can you compete against Spain by relying on footballers that are unable to make the Spanish squad? If you play with your own countrymen, there will at least always be an element of unpredictability (the opponents presumably won't know what tricks your English players have up their sleeve and will expect to be facing very dedicated footballers) and in any case there is no shame to losing a match. Yes, youth development is key and there is currently no reason for Spain to change their system. Interesting, if I recall correctly, Blanc eventually was forced to backtrack a bit, but he keeps trying to integrate more finesse players into the French team.

when i mention the "big countries", russia is not one of them right now, they are not the kind of team that has a lot of fans like spain or germany

when you say that the final will be spain-italy you get a lot of viewers
if you say that the final will be russia-england, you have less viewers
if you say that the final will be greece-ukraine, it's a catastrophy for UEFA

at the world cup, the perfect semifinalists for the fans or FIFA would be an african country, an european country, an asian country and brazil or argentina
that's why the south american countries got awfull refereeing, because there was too many of them in the 8th finals (not saying that the referees are corrupted or recieve orders from FIFA, but it could also be because of sympathy for the last team of a continent still in the tournament)

True, Russia (and even the former USSR) are far from soccer powerhouses. The USSR has produced many distinguished players (Yashin, Blokhin, etc.), but they have not been that successful as a team. Yes, I remember that there were suggestions that South America receive an extra slot for the World Cups (its teams are on average the strongest in the world), but these caused a major outcry (as with only 10 members, it's the smallest confederation in FIFA). An alternative would be to merge CONMEBOL and CONCACAF (countries like the United States and Mexico would still have a good chance to qualify) and allow the best eight teams to reach the finals. Referees (even if they are well-meaning) may have a certain modus operandi and be naturally deferential to/inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to more influential national sides and large and aggressive crowds could also intimidate them at times. I agree that from FIFA's perspective the perfect scenario is that countries from four different continents reach the 1/2 finals. The 2002 World Cup was probably the one with the highest number of gaffes with regard to officiating.


ofcourse i don't wish them to be replaced by foreigners
actually out of the players i listed, many are foreigners, like zidane's sons, the dos santos brothers, ect
i am just worried that they might miss some local talent
like i said in other countries there are not as many players with relatives that play football
so i am worried about this

in france you can see the difference between the white players who have family in the business and the others (because french clubs were racist and didn't pick the young white talents, as laurent blanc said)

take gourcuff and nolan roux for example: as talented as they are (especially gourcuff) they had it easier than other whites like koscielny, ribery or giroud who had to play in 3rd division until very late sometimes

I see what you mean and you are right that this applies to quite a few players from Central America and Africa as well. Your motives are noble (we always have to try to be fair no matter the ethnic or racial background and one cannot deny that in spheres like sport and medicine there may at times be undue pressure from the parents that kids follow in their footsteps and this may also cause the teenagers to overestimate their own skills). It's indeed important to make the distinction between those like Gourcuff and those in the same situation as Giroud, as their social backgrounds are rather different. In a sense it's more remarkable how certain players like Koscielny have progressed (given the adversity and prejudices they must have faced from an early age). Another problem is also the setting/culture or the coaches' priorities - for instance, certain countries arguably overemphasize the importance of physicality (e.g. England) while a number of coaches may have unrealistic expectations regarding the technique that players need to possess (as a youngster Shevchenko failed a dribbling test and was initially discouraged from pursuing soccer by one of his managers).

you make it sound like turning pro in manchester united is a bad thing :icon_wink:

Hehe, you are right, though I am guessing that Pique felt slightly disappointed at the time, as his dream must have been to become an integral component of Barcelona's team (due to his Catalan roots) and he wasn't sure whether he would be able to get another chance with Barcelona (as prior to Pep Guardiola's era, Barcelona often made high- profile transfers of foreign defenders). I get the impression that relatively few Spanish players (compared to other European nationalities) play abroad and they do not regard the Premier League as being more prestigious than the Spanish La Liga. Ferguson has been criticized for "letting Pique go" (though I personally think that Johnny Evans will come good next season).


each spanish goalkeeper has its weak points: valdes has trouble when he has to get out of his goal (when he has to pick a ball that's far from him before the striker gets it)
casillas is bad on the corner kicks and crosses (we could see it tonight)
and reina lacks consistency
that's why i think that the best goal-keepers in the world are lloris and neuer (lloris is rumored to sign for arsenal by the way)

casillas stands out because he has amazing reflexes and does great spectacular saves, valdes too
but valdes probably is not the second goalkeeper because there are already a lot of players from barcelona in the spanish national team
suporters of other clubs in spain would complain

Well said, I also think that Casillas is in some respects perceived to be the most charismatic one and in my opinion he generally plays much better for Spain than for Real Madrid (I have seen him make quite a few mistakes when representing his club team, but he is usually up to the task when in national team jersey). Good point regarding the need for other regions in Spain to feel represented, this is certainly another factor that makes it difficult for Valdes to stake a claim for becoming the understudy to Casillas.

Lloris and Neuer are indeed top calibre goalkeepers, Lindegaard and Akinfeev are very promising as well. It will be good for Lloris' development if he goes to Arsenal, but I have the feeling that they will stick with Szcezny and his compatriot Fabianski for another year (the former is quite popular with Arsenal supporters).
 

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Speaking of France I see Laurent Blanc will not be renewing his contract. Based on the internal bickering in the past two tournaments I'm not sure there will be many top coaches who would want the job. Maybe they should phone Fabio Capello! Who is the most likely replacement?

apparently didier deschamps was offered to be the new coach but he refused
that's probably because he didn't like the way laurent blanc, a close friend, was treated
also, france will have to beat spain to qualify to the next world cup because we are no longer top seed thanks to the clowns who played in 2010, so it's probably too dangerous for dider deschamps career
another possibility is current montpellier coach, rene girard, who was assistant coach from 1998 to 2002 when france won world cup + euro champs


the worst choice would be paul le guen
 
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Interesting, if I recall correctly, Blanc eventually was forced to backtrack a bit, but he keeps trying to integrate more finesse players into the French team.

he was forced to backtrack but still, proof is here that he did what he wanted to do:

-france had a far whiter team than during the past 10 years, and more arabs as well
-france had the smallest team at the euro champs (lowest medium height) even smaller than spain
 

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the spanish (white) andres iniesta was named best player of the tournament

fernando torres was named top scorer of the tournament, as it has been said before
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/golden-boot/winner/index.html

with the victory of a 100% white spanish team (except 1 partly asian and 1 gipsy) that's perfect
total white dominance, like every major international competition these past 10 years
 

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another thing that hasn't been said here is that the 2 finalists have something in common, they both have most of their teams that plays for 1 or 2 big local clubs
juventus for the italians
real madrid and barcelona for spain
most of the ukranians players played for dynamo kyiv or shaktor donetsk......
 
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