UEFA EURO 2012

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It's a little more than a month before the EURO kick-off, so I thought I would start the thread.

Group A (Poland: Warsaw/Wroclaw):
Poland
Grece
Russia
Czech Republic

Group B (Ukraine: Kharkiv/Lviv):
Netherlands
Denmark
Germany
Portugal

Group C (Poland: Gdansk/Poznan):
Spain
Italy
Croatia
Republic of Ireland

Group D (Ukraine: Kyiv/Donetsk):
Ukraine
Sweden
France
England


Schedule:
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Team strength according to the FIFA/Coca-Cola World Ranking (a highly suspicious source IMO):

World Rank/Team/Points:
1 Spain 2095
2 Netherlands 2052
4 Germany 2039
6 England 1916
8 Portugal 1871
10 Sweden 1856
11 Croatia 1845
11 Italy 1845
14 France 1829
17 Russia 1808
19 Denmark 1780
20 Ireland 1772
21 Czech R. 1768
26 Greece 1754
27 Ukraine 1750
38 Poland 1685

Group strength (based on rankings - very uneven groups):
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Preliminary predictions:

A: 1.GRE, 2.RUS, 3.POL, 4.CZE
B: 1.GER, 2.HOL, 3.DAN, 4.POR
C: 1.ITA, 2. SPA, 3. CRO, 4.IRL
D: 1.ENG, 2.UKR, 3.FRA, 4.SWE

QF winners: HOL, GER, ITA, SPA
Semis: HOL, GER (1988 semi-final)
Winner: Germany
 
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Group A, team pictures:

Poland: possible team Fabianski,Dudka,Piszczek,Wasilewski, Perquis,
Matuszczyk,Błaszczykowski,Obraniak,Peszko,Lewandowski,Brozek
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Grece - possible team: Tzorvas,Papastathopoulos, Papadopoulos,Torosidis, Vyntra, Tziolis, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Gekas, Salpigidis, Samaras
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Russia - possible team : Akinfeev,Zirkov,Anjukov,IgnaseviC,Berezutsky,Shirokov,Denisov,Zyryanov,Arsavin,Dzagoev,Pavljucenko
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Czech Republic - Cech, Pospěch,Kadlec,Sivok, Hubník, Plašil,Pilar,Rosicky, Matějovský,
Hübschman,Baroš


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All teams in this group seem to be all-White.
 
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Group B - team pictures:

Germany
- possible team: Neuer, Badstuber,Lahm,Mertesacker,Schweinsteiger,Khedira,Podolski,Ozil,Muller,Gomez
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Netherlands - Stekelenburg,Mathijsen,Heitinga,van der Wiel,Braafheid,Sneijder,van Bommel,Robben,de Jong,Huntelaar,van Persie

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Denmark - Sørensen, Agger, Kjær, Jacobsen, Poulsen,C. Poulsen, Jørgensen, Kvist,
Kahlenberg,Eriksen, Bendtner

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Portugal - Rui Patricio,Pepe,Alves,Coentrao,Perreira,Meireles,Nani,Moutinho,Danny,C.Ronaldo,Postiga

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This group, with the exception of the all-White Denmark is pretty "multikulti", even Germany has at least 2 non-whites in its starting lineup.
 

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Group C pictures:

Spain - Casillas,Puyol,Pique,Ramos,Arbeloa,Xavi,Iniesta,Al onso,Fabregas,Silva, Villa is injured, not sure who they plan to play as the main striker...
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Italy - Buffon,Criscito,Chiellini,Maggio,Ranocchia,De Rossi,Motta,Aquilani,Pirlo,Cassano,Giovinco?
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Croatia - Pletikosa,Å imunić,Vida,Schildenfeld,Ćorluka,Dujmović,Modrić,Srna,Rakitić,Mandžukić,Jelavić

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Ireland - Given, Dunne,McShane,St Ledger,O'Shea, McGeady, Duff, Hunt, Andrews, Doyle,
Keane

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This group is also pretty White, with the exception of Italy that may field a couple of blacks, even Balottelli is looming, but most probably they will have a white team. Croatia has their token Brazilian Edoardo Da Silve, but he will probably not play.
 

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Group D pictures:

England - Hart,Terry,Cahill,Cole,Johnson,Barry,Lampard,Walcott,A.Johnson,Bent

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France - Lloris, Abidal, Rami,Réveillère,Evra, Ribéry, Malouda,Diarra, Nasri, Menez,
Benzema/Giroud?
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Sweden - Isaksson,Lustig,Mellberg,Majstorović,Safari, Wernbloom, Källström, Bajrami,
Svensson, Wilhelmsson, Ibrahimović
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Ukraine - Rybka,Kucher,Rakitskiy,Chygrinskiy,Fedetskiy,Tymoschuk,Rotan,Nazarenko,Yarmolenko,Shevchenko,Milevsk iy

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This group fields two of the traditionally most "tanned" teams - France and England as well as the all White Ukraine and Sweden (alhought the Swedes do have some reinforcements from the Balkans). The French team this time is refreshingly White, they may go places.
 

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great thread :thumb:
i will be rooting for ukraine


France - Lloris, Abidal, Rami,Réveillère,Evra, Ribéry, Malouda,Diarra, Nasri, Menez,
Benzema/Giroud?

abidal is finished (health problems)
the central defence will be mexes-rami
and debuchy instead of reveillere
then malouda shouldn't play (too old and he never plays for chelsea)
maybe gourcuff instead of him?

benzema will be the number 1 striker, and giroud will come in during the match as a substitute (that's what i can tell from what the coach said about him)

we can expect a team with 7 whites, 2 blacks and 2 arabs

Ukraine - Rybka,Kucher,Rakitskiy,Chygrinskiy,Fedetskiy,Tymos chuk,Rotan,Nazarenko,Yarmolenko,Shevchenko,Milevsk iy

that team looks great but rybka got a 2 years ban for taking forbidden substances, so he won't be able to play
i hope edmar the brazilian won't play



A: 1.GRE, 2.RUS, 3.POL, 4.CZE
B: 1.GER, 2.HOL, 3.DAN, 4.POR
C: 1.ITA, 2. SPA, 3. CRO, 4.IRL
D: 1.ENG, 2.UKR, 3.FRA, 4.SWE

here are mine:
A: 1.RUS, 2.GRE, 3.POL, 4.CZE
B: 1.POR, 2.DEN, 3.GER, 4.HOL <---- that's if denmark play without black defenders
C: 1.SPA, 2.ITA, 3.CRO, 4.IRL but croatia and maybe even ireland can beat italy i think, and yes, balotelli will play
D: impossible to predict, except that sweden is the worst team of the group


some teams are likely to play with unexpected blacks, especially spain (alcantara or rodrigo from benfica)
maybe denmark also
 
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Frederick, thanks for the corrections.

The pre-tournament has been marred by the threat of some European governments to boycott the Ukrainian part of he EURO because Ukraine jailed their ex-politician Yulia Timoshenko. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17942632 . Yulia was a corrupt official who almost certainly stole huge ammounts of money from the Ukrainian state and was possibly implicated in criminal activities, including the murder of a political rival. However, she was a precious anti-Russian puppet of the West and Israel (isn't this the same?), so when she was imprisoned the western regimes went into a hissy fit as usual over "human rights" violations. Let's hope this will not affect the tournament.

I wish Ukraine to do well. Other teams tht can surprise positively in my opinion are:
- Italy (if they don't field Balotelli and other blacks). Their selector Prandini went on record stating that Balotelli will not play because he is unstable.. we'll see. In attack, Giovinco from Parma is in great form. If they display their usual granitic defence, they could go very far, maybe even the finals.
- Denmark - this is a very underrated team. In defence they have a couple of good players (Kjaer, Paulson), in attack I like Ericksen. They may be able to go through the group stage if Germany and/or Netherlands choke.
- Russia in my opinion has a good team, with Arshavin and Pavlychenko. The defence however might be their problem. I would expect them to pass the group stage without problems. They may surprise and go through to the semis.
- Grece seems to be a very difficult team to beat, great defence, but lacking penetration in attack. As a surprise they may go through to the semis.
France - if they field a overwhelmingly white team they will do god. Looking forward to see Giroud play in attack, although I am afraid we will see Benzema there. Possible finals.

Possible negative surprises:
- Spain - their cycle may be coming to an end in my opinion. After winning the EURO 2008 and the World Cup 2012, it is difficult that they will win a third big tournament in a row. Some key players seem a bit old (Puyol, Xavi), they may play without a classic attacker (Villa is injured) and this may be their problem as seen in the Barca-Chelsea game. Their tika-taka passing game can be countered effectively by a well organized physical defence and conterattacking (see Italy). Possible exit in QF or semis.
- Portugal - Yes they have Ronaldo, but their defence looks shaky. In the qualifiers they conceded 8 goals at home in 2 games from Cyprus and Island!
- Germany - Last year in 13 games (including the friendlies) they conceded 17 goals. The defence is pretty young and is prone to errors, especially if they field Boateng. They may drop out in QF or semis.
- Netherlands - Great ofence with Van Persie and Huntelaar, but the defence is leaky, especially on the side (fullbacks). Expect high-scoring games, but may drop out in QF or Semis angainst a team with a strong defence.

All in all, a slightly whiter Euro this year.
 
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Poland
Stadion Narodowy – Warsaw (58,000)
Stadion Miejski – Poznan (45,000)
PGE Arena – Gdansk (43,000)
Stadion Miejski we Wrocławiu – Wroclaw (43,000)

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Ukraine
Olimpiysky Stadium – Kiev (70,000)
Metalist Stadium – Kharkov (38,000)
Donbass Arena – Doneck (51,504)
Arena Lviv – Lviv (35,000)

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It's too bad Wilshere isn't going to play for England. I was looking forward to that. I have no idea what kind of team England will field. They could easily have 6 black starters. Young, Wellbeck, Walcott, Cole, Ferdinand and Johnson. That's without Rooney the first 2 games.

I would have Rooney, Parker, Lampard, Adam Johnson on the right, Downing on the left and maybe Gerrard. That's 5 midfielders. Then Terry and Cahill and maybe Phil Jones at right back and A Cole at left. That's 1 black.

If Wilshere would have played, I would have had Parker, Wilshere and Lampard in the middle, Gerrad on the left and Adam Johnson on the right. Rooney up front.

What's this about more than 1 black on Italy?
 

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You mean - apart from Balotelli (who appearently will not play)?

This guy: Angelo Ogbonna from 2.division Torino:
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His parents are Nigerian immigrants. I am sick of all these Nigerians immigrating all over the place. They have no business being in Italy.

This guy plays for a 2nd division side.
 

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His parents are Nigerian immigrants. I am sick of all these Nigerians immigrating all over the place. They have no business being in Italy.

This guy plays for a 2nd division side.

Italy better not be seriously considering this guy, he has no business being even close to the Italian National side.

Some bright news for Germany, Dennis Aogo isn't even in their preliminary 27 man training squad.

Unfortunatly, Cacau is inexplicably on the team again. Apparantly, he has no shot of starting though. But, there are far better options than this guy.

I'm hoping one of Germany's defenders can step up and put Boateng back on the bench.
 

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Yulia was a corrupt official who almost certainly stole huge ammounts of money from the Ukrainian state and was possibly implicated in criminal activities, including the murder of a political rival. However, she was a precious anti-Russian puppet of the West and Israel (isn't this the same?), so when she was imprisoned the western regimes went into a hissy fit as usual over "human rights" violations. Let's hope this will not affect the tournament.

Yes, the same officials from Europe who expressed no concern for the oppressed white South Africans when the World Cup was held in "the Rainbow nation" are up in arms about poor Yulia "the Gas Queen" and her oligarchic family. Last I heard her husband was given asylum in the Czech Republic. For years now there have been rumours that she's of Jewish background. It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. She was certainly friendly to the US and Israel.

As to the football...England v France Monday June 11. I can't make up my mind as to which team I despise more.:yuck:
 

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Great posts, pictures, research, and information in this thread, Porthos!

I’d certainly root for my native Germany if the squad didn’t feature a Tunsian (Sami Khedira) a Negro (Jerome Boeteng, who may not make the 23-man roster), and a Turk (Mezut Ozil), but my favorite team is now Denmark. Denis Rommedahl and Nicklas Bendtner provided some exciting play at World Cup 2010. Other all-white sides, of course, include Ireland, Ukraine, Poland, Russia, Czech Republic, and possibly Sweden. Any squad accept for England, France, the Netherlands, or Portugal would be fine.

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CAPTION: Denmark's Rommadahl

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CAPTION: "Salto-Klose"
 

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the current under-17 french national team:

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still wondering which one is the worse ? :eek:


This is what is happening to Frrance? Wow. England isn't that bad.

Click the thumbnails below for larger version and see how white England's 2006 WC team. It's not going to be that white for Euro '12.
 

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Great posts, pictures, research, and information in this thread, Porthos!

I’d certainly root for my native Germany if the squad didn’t feature a Tunsian (Sami Khedira) a Negro (Jerome Boeteng, who may not make the 23-man roster), and a Turk (Mezut Ozil), but my favorite team is now Denmark. Denis Rommedahl and Nicklas Bendtner provided some exciting play at World Cup 2010. Other all-white sides, of course, include Ireland, Ukraine, Poland, Russia, Czech Republic, and possibly Sweden. Any squad accept for England, France, the Netherlands, or Portugal would be fine.

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CAPTION: Denmark's Rommadahl

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CAPTION: "Salto-Klose"

I hope Boateng somehow doesn't start. I hope Germany's back line would be: Lahm, Badstuber, Hummels, and Schmelzer. I don't think Loew would take any diversity out of the lineup though, would he? Sami Khedira might lose his job to Toni Kroos during the Euro, from what I've heard, but probably not. I'd still cheer for Germany if they had Ozil, he's one of their best players and, and at not a passport mercenary (Cacau) or anytihng like that. Plus to 99% of American DWFs, Ozil is just another white guy for Germany, as we discussed in the 2010 World Cup thread.

I agree with Thrashen though, any team besides England, France, Holland, and Portugal would be fine with me.
 

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Group A, team pictures:

Poland: possible team Fabianski,Dudka,Piszczek,Wasilewski, Perquis,
Matuszczyk,Błaszczykowski,Obraniak,Peszko,Lewandowski,Brozek
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Czech Republic - Cech, Pospěch,Kadlec,Sivok, Hubník, Plašil,Pilar,Rosicky, Matějovský,
Hübschman,Baroš


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All teams in this group seem to be all-White.

Porthos -

Fabianski as a starter? Where on earth did You get that idea from?

Fabianski is Arsenal's number two goalkeeper. So, who is Arsenal's number one goalkeeper? That would be a certain Wojciech Szczesny who, despite only having eight caps, is obviously also Poland's first choice. Szczesny has played in all of the most important friendlies (i.e. against France, Germany, Italy and Portugal) since the beginning of last year.

Here is Poland's preliminary 26-man (plus 7 stand-by reserves) Euro 2012 squad, which was announced on 2 May:

http://www.90minut.pl/news/187/news1873567-Szeroka-kadra-Polski-na-Euro-2012.html

A purist like myself objects to the presence of Frenchmen Damien Perquis and Ludovic Obraniak, as well as to Eugen Polanski and Sebastian Boenisch. The latter two decided to play for Poland once they realised that they wouldn't play for Germany. Polanski clumsily dodges the issue in interviews, which he conducts in pitifully broken, heavily German-accented Polish, while Boenisch can't even speak the language. "National team" football, eh?

The Polish team photo You posted is of the starting lineup in a friendly against Canada played at the end of 2009. Only four of those players have been named in the preliminary squad: Robert Lewandowski (number 8 in the photo), Dariusz Dudka (5), Maciej Rybus (9),and the Frenchman Ludovic Obraniak (10). Slawomir Peszko (15) was not considered for selection because of a drunken altercation with a taxi driver in Germany a few weeks ago.

When it comes to the Czechs, have You heard of a player by the name of Theodor Gebre Selassie? I've certainly mentioned him in the Euro 2012 qualification tournament thread:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/12162-EURO-2012-Qualifying-Tournament/page4

Sometimes I suspect that people don't bother to read my posts at all... :icon_wink:

Gebre Selassie, who is a defender with Slovan Liberec, was born in the Czech Republic to an Ethiopian father and Czech mother. He has broken into the national side, featuring in the last few games of the qualifiers, including both playoff legs against Montenegro plus the February friendly against the Republic of Ireland. Odds on that he shall be in the Czech squad and may very well start.

Here is the Czech side which began the second leg against Montenegro:

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Not all-White, is it?
 
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obviously there are going to be some mistakes in a list with so many squads, and while the official teams have not been announced yet

it's impossible to keep track of so many teams
i also noticed that sczesni wasn't poland's goal keeper, while he should be (there is/was also arthur boruc)

i corrected a few mistakes too in the teams i follow, france, spain, and ukraine (i should also add that schevshenko is not sure to be in the squad)

some did it about england, some posted about germany, that's why it's good to have people who follow many different teams


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and regarding balotelli, porthos, were you aware that his coach said that he would be in the team?
see here: http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/13581-mario-balotelli?p=245606&viewfull=1#post245606

or maybe the coach said something else and changed his mind (once again)?
 

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Sorry for the errors. I don't really follow Poland and that's what you get when you cut/paste without checking. Also, as mentioned, most teams did not yet announce their rosters, the situation is fluid and there can still be surprises.

As for Balotelli, the Italian coach flip-flopped on this many times. Prandelli is a weird guy, always trying to be trendy and multi-kulti. He recently said gay players should come out of the closed which stirred quite a controversy in Italy. I remember him saying that he is not inclined to call Balotelli because he needs "stable" players, but just yesterday I checked and Prandelli confirmed the ManCity Idiot *will be* called up (as well as Cassano, another player I personally don't like) - http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/eu...otelli-cassano-di-natale-will-go-to-euro-2012 ... Totti and Del Piero are obviously out because of their age. The official list will be announced Sunday. However, if there is any logic in the Italy squad selection (and often there is not) he will put Di Natale and Giovinco as strikers. Both are in the form of their life. I would not be surprised if Fabrizio Miccoli from Palermo is called up despite not playing for the national team for many years. He also is scoring a boatload of goals this year, so Prandini's obsession with The Idiot and Cassano is weird. The other possible striker - Pazzini from Inter - is not in great form... Pirlo will obviously be called up as he did great in Juventus and such a playmaker is almost impossible to replace.

Croatia announced their team yesterday - they will have the black Brazilian Edoardo, but he almost certainly he will not play and this is probably his last call up. Bilic (the Croatian coach who is leaving after the EURO) called him more as a "morale booster" and a personal favor, as these things often happen in Croatia. Also, the other useless black Brazilian Sammir (from Dinamo Zagreb) was *not* called up, so Croatia will almost certainly field an all-white team. Good news from Croatia.
 

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Jack Lambert said:
I hope Boateng somehow doesn't start. I hope Germany's back line would be: Lahm, Badstuber, Hummels, and Schmelzer. I don't think Loew would take any diversity out of the lineup though, would he? Sami Khedira might lose his job to Toni Kroos during the Euro, from what I've heard, but probably not. I'd still cheer for Germany if they had Ozil, he's one of their best players and, and at not a passport mercenary (Cacau) or anytihng like that. Plus to 99% of American DWFs, Ozil is just another white guy for Germany, as we discussed in the 2010 World Cup thread.

I agree with Thrashen though, any team besides England, France, Holland, and Portugal would be fine with me.



“Die Nationalmannschaft” is indeed ripe with white talents, all of whom are tarnished with the fetid stench of “die-versity” currently afflicting the German National Team. With exciting white forwards such as: Miroslav Klose, Thomas Muller, and Lukas Podolski, athletic white midfielders such as Bastian Schweinsteiger and Toni Kroos, and hardened white defenders like Phillipp Lahm, Per Mertsacker, and Holger Badstuber. If you remember, it was Badstuber who was vilified for Germany’s 1-0 loss to Serbia in the 2010 World Cup Finals…and accodingly, Badstuber subsequently “lost” his starting defender position to the useless Negro, Jerome Boateng. I’m not sure if Boateng will start, especially since Badsuber had such a promising qualifying campaign, Mario Gomez can be used as a defensive substitute, and Per Mertsacker is supposedly healthy after having ankle surgery during his club team’s season.

Germany’s 27-man roster (soon to be trimmed to 23-man) for Euro 2012 Squad is as such…

GOALKEEPERS:
Manuel Neuer, Tim Wiese, Ron-Robert Zieler, Marc-Andre ter Stegen.

DEFENDERS:
Holger Badstuber, Jerome Boateng, Mats Hummels, Per Mertesacker, Bendikt Howedes, Philipp Lahm, Marcel Schmelzer.

MIDFIELDERS:
Bastian Schweinsteiger, Sami Khedira, Sven Bender, Lars Bender, Ilkay Gundogan, Toni Kroos, Julian Draxler, Marco Reus, Mario Gotze, Mesut Ozil.

FORWARDS:
Mario Gomez, Miroslav Klose, Cacau, Thomas Muller, Andreas Schurrle, Lukas Podolski.

Of the five non-white players on the roster (two of whom may not even make the cut), there are likely to be two non-white starters (Ozil and Khedira). Ozil, who is certainly a very talented, world-class midfielder, is very light-skinned with jet-black bug-eyes, and upon close examination is obviously Turkish. As you said, though, to the casual intoxicated fanboy, Ozil is “white”…

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CAPTION: Ozil

As you mentioned, Toni Kroos may indeed start ahead of the Tunisian midfielder, Sami Khedira, or at least cut into his minutes. During Euro Cup qualifying, Kroos started 80% of the matches. Like Ozil, Khedira could “pass the eye test” as “white” with his fair-skin, but his soulless black eyes and Arabic facial features tell the dark story of his ancestry…

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CAPTION: Khedira

The other filthy Turk (who, unlike Ozil, could never pass the “eye test”), midfielder Ilkay Gundogan, will not play and may not even make the roster…

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CAPTION: Gundogan

With the emergence of forwards Mario Gomez as the primary backup to Klose, black Brazilian import, Cacau, is also very unlikely to play.

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CAPTION: Cacau

I’m not sure why veteran defender, Arne Friedrich (who now plays for MLS’s Chicago Fire), wasn’t selected for the roster. He’s only two years removed from a fine performance at the World Cup Finals.

If Ozil ends up being Germany’s only non-white featured in the starting 11, then I suppose I wouldn’t mind if they advanced from “Group B” and have success. Hopefully, the all-white (from last I saw, at least) Denmark squad will also advance from this tough group…tall odds, considering Group B also features Portugal and The Netherlands.

Naturally, by the end of the tournament, I hope that the “whitest” squad prevails. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind seeing an “underdog” soccer nation such as Sweden, Russia, Denmark, or Ireland hoist the trophy. That is, assuming…well, you know.
 

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i'm happy to hear that aogo was left out of the squad

but unfortunately, boateng will most likely be a starter, not as a central defender, but as a right back

and as a result of real madrid's obsession with muslim players (or muslim money) ozil and kedhira might play
ozil sure, and khedira maybe (if he wasn't playing in real madrid - for marketing reasons - he would be unknown in germany)

cacau has no business being in the team, kick him out, enough of this joke
the coach left out kiessling who is the 7th top scorer of german bundesliga with 16 goals and has played multiple times for germany
so cacau shouldn't be there


germany has a lot of young talents, i look forward to seeing them play
for example mario gotze

[video=youtube_share;peCJILBJChs]http://youtu.be/peCJILBJChs[/video]


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regarding the english national team, i read that parker is injuried and might not be in the team
it's starting to look bad for england: first rooney who won't be able to play the first matches, then wilshere, and now parker?
 

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i'm happy to hear that aogo was left out of the squad

but unfortunately, boateng will most likely be a starter, not as a central defender, but as a right back

Germany’s last meaningful qualifier game came against Austria on September 2nd, 2011. Here is a photo of the lily-white starting 11 from that crucial game…

starting 11.jpg

This photo is of Phillipp Lahm (16), Bastian Schweinsteiger (7), Lukas Podolski (10), Benedikt Howedes (3), Thomas Muller (13), Manual Neuer (1), Holger Badstuber (14), Mats Hummels (5), Toni Kroos (18), Miroslav Klose (11), and Mesut Ozil (8).

During this contest, Boateng substituted into the game after a large lead was established.
 

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Thrashen, that's the lineup I hope that Germany uses. A lot of people think it's about 50/50 right now whether Howedes or Boateng starts. Boateng not being able to get to Germany's camp for another week because of the Champion's League Final might give Howedes a little bit of an edge on him than, being able to work with the National Team longer. Boateng has said too that he doesn't like being played on the outside. I'm also not sure about why Friedrich was even selected to the 27 man team either, Trashen.

Kroos emerging the way he did this year for Bayern Munich can only help his chances of unseating Khedira.

Like you said, Gundogan has virtually no shot to make the final 23.

Even though Cacau is a sub- some people are saying he'd never start- and that they'd move somebody like Podolski up to Klose's and Gomez's spot before Cacau would start there. The sick joke that is Cacau playing for Germany needs to stop right now.

As for Denmark, they do have a black defender- Simon Poulsen, who played a crucial part in the Dane's own goal during the World Cup against the Netherlands. I'm not sure if he'll start or not, though. Here's to hoping he doesn't.


I'm hoping Denmark and Germany advance from Group B.
 
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