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Discussion in 'Happy Hour' started by JD074, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. JD074

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    I don't watch most of the popular sitcoms and other shows
    because they, well, suck. But one that I have watched is "King
    of the Hill". It's just a silly little cartoon, but a disturbing little
    cartoon if you actually stop to think about its premise:

    Hank Hill: has an effeminate son who dates an Asian girl, hates
    sports, likes to cook and dress up in woman's clothing; also,
    Hank is sterile

    Dale: his wife has a long-term affair with a Native American
    man, and is raising the Native American's son, thinking that it's
    his own

    Bill: totally pathetic creature, a fat, whiny slob who can't get
    over his wife leaving him years ago.

    And of course these losers are white men. Cartoons can
    always get away with more than other shows, but there's no
    way they could get away with all that if the characters were
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    The destruction of American children can also be found at Nickelodeon,"Fairly Oddparents" gives the message quite clearly. Also,race mixing messages abound!
     
  3. jaxvid

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    I actually like King of the Hill. Sometimes the show is very politically incorrect. Hank is an old time kind of guy. He doesn't like his son dating the Asian. And Hank loves guns and football. I think if you are going to have a comedy you have to have some people with problems.

    Couple years age there was an Eddie Murphy produced "claymation" comedy that has an all black cast that took place in a tenement house. The lead chararcter was the maintenace man. It was pretty funny and really skewered black ghetto culture. Sometimes blacks will be able to make fun of themselves but not whites.
     
  4. cxt7

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    I think the simpsons is still pretty decent, they seem to tell it like it is a lot of the time, the cop has a pig nose, mr. burns reminds me of dick chaney, the arab who has 10 kids and owns a kwik-e-mart.
     
  5. IceSpeed

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    Apu is Indian, not Arab. But the show is
    really funny given all of its innuendoes and characters. Homer is
    the funniest. He is a dumb, goofy, fat buffoun who is a nuclear
    saftey inspector. Mr. Burns always reminded me of an Ivan Boesky
    figure. Marge reminds me of Edith from All in the Family.
    The show combines slapstick with casual jokes with dry humor accounting
    for its longevity. It will be a classic show.



    King of the Hill is another good show. It
    portrays Hank as the straight man. It shows how the world has
    gone down the tubes around middle america. However, Hank's
    traditional values win in the end of the episodes usually. In one
    episode, Hank cleans up a def-Jam type comedion and turns him into a
    respectable human being.
     
  6. JD074

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    Jaxvid, I agree, King of the Hill can be funny. But I think it's
    disingenuine to have a show about down home, Middle
    America folks, with white characters who we're supposed to like
    and sympathize with, but to so blatantly emasculate the white
    male characters. It's Hollywood writers and producers who
    probably don't actually like or respect the real Middle America.
    And let's not forget that the creator of King of the Hill also
    created Beavis and Butthead, not exactly the classiest,
    smartest show ever made. Also, his Asian neighbor says
    "redneck" way too much. It's just not funny. They're not going
    to have Hank say "chink" or "jap" of course.

    It's absolutely true that black comedians can pretty much say
    whatever they want about black people, white people, or
    anybody. There are a lot of politically incorrect white
    comedians, but they can't get away with what the black ones
    can get away with. If you want to hear someone rip black
    people, just watch black stand-ups.

    I enjoy watching the Simpsons as well. It's not as good as it
    used to be, and their writers are really liberal (that's why Lisa
    was transformed into a vegetarian Buddhist), but it's still one of
    the few good shows on TV. It's pretty sad when a Simpsons
    episode that I've seen several times is still more entertaining
    than most of the crap that's called "comedy" nowadays.

    With so much crap going on in this country, it's good to kick
    back and laugh a little bit. It's quite therapeutic.
     
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    Yea sorry about apu, the last episode i saw they were smuggling prescriptions from canada and apu was in the backseat sneezing at the boarder and got a rag wrapped around his head so they got checked at the boarder. I like how they bring a lot of everyday life problems into the show.
     
  8. jaxvid

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    Good thing about the Simpsons is that they will insult EVERYBODY.
     
  9. JD074

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    As for King of the Hill's traditional values, there's one episode
    where Hank refuses to ride on the back of a motorcycle while
    his wife drives; apparently that would be emasculating. Of
    course by the end he's back there. There's another episode
    where he's so worried about a black guy who accuses his dog
    of being racist. Finally at the end he's able to prove that it's not
    true. Whoo, what a relief. And a few episodes where he finally
    stands up to his evil sexist patriarchal father. It's a pretty
    wussy show, I think. But they all are. Even South Park, which
    is by far the most politically incorrect show on TV, can be pretty
    weak at times.
     
  10. IceSpeed

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    King of the Hill definitely parodies traditional
    family values and masculinity. Hank has a narrowed urethra,
    diminished glute, and irritable male syndrom(a condition where he does
    not have enough testosterone). He is definitely supposed to be
    immasculating.

    Peggy is a naive housewife. She thinks she is
    smarter than she is. Bobby basically calls all of America's youth
    ****s.
     
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    Sorry, I mean homosexuals.
     
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    One show that actually surprised me was The Apprentice. Now
    I haven't actually seen the show, so I can't speak about its
    content. But I heard about the results of both seasons: a white
    guy beat out a black guy, and a white guy beat out a woman. I
    guess nobody has informed Mr. Trump about the Rules
    Concerning Political Correctness in the Media. Perhaps he'll
    remedy his mistakes in the third season.

    I saw a clip of the second season finale during Sportcenter's
    Top Ten Plays, and black "anchorman" Fred Hick said
    sarcastically, "the fix is in." I'm sure he noticed the un-PC
    results of both seasons and didn't like it one bit.

    Also, two white men won on the "Dream Job" show. This
    seems to be despite their best efforts to put as many blacks
    through as they could. Of the thousands of people who tried to
    get on this show, I doubt if all the blacks who got into the top
    ten or twelve or whatever really belonged there. I saw the first
    season and only the promos for the second (where they told
    which contestant got cut), and it seemed liked the viewers
    voted most of the blacks off early in both seasons.
     
  13. bigunreal

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    "The Simpsons" was one of the greatest shows of all time, but it has
    gradually deteriorated over the past five seasons or so, and is barely
    watchable now, IMHO. My son and I have been watching the Season Five
    DVD all evening; classic entertainment! Don't watch much else on TV
    now, although I still give "Smallville" a chance, it has suddenly
    become a p.c., predictable show in its fourth season. I never liked
    "King Of The Hill" much, but did enjoy "Futurama" a lot. If any of you
    "Simpsons" fans haven't watched it, get one of the "Futurama" season
    DVDs- it's really funny and original. Too bad televison shows just
    aren't very good any more. Luckily, there are VCRs and DVD players so
    that we can make our own choices and re-watch "The Andy Griffith Show,"
    "Green Acres," "Leave It To Beaver," "The Beverly Hillbillies" and
    "SCTV," just to name a few of my personal favorites.
     
  14. IceSpeed

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    The Simpsons is surging back, after having some weak
    seasons. Its re-establishing characters, elaborating its
    nature. Look for some great episodes soon. Hey, when the
    show began, a 15 year sitcom was unheard of. It has done things
    of Ruthian proportions and really was the first cartoon sitcom.
    It was one of the first great shows not to be broadcast by the three
    major networks. You have to understand that a show with its
    longevity will have slumps.

    Another funny show was Married with Children.
    However, I did notice some anti-white stereotypes in it, but those
    stereotypes were just because of the times and not the show. Al
    Bundy is a white bum(shoe salesmen who never sells shoes) that clings
    to glory as a highschool fullback. He always talked about his
    four touchdown game. One of his friends was a highschool running
    back who was black.

    Al is a fat, stupid buffoun and his wife, Peggy is a
    lazy housewife. The daughter is a dumb blonde. The son is
    the only reasonably intelligent one, but a "horndog.", always looking
    for sex.

    These could be looked at as anti-white and anti-american(Al is a negative, but hillarious stereotype of an average american).



    All in the Family is another great show. The
    predecessor to Married with Children was a very funny show, but
    portrayed traditional white culture as racist, ignorant, and nasty.
     
  15. IceSpeed

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    Just was watching Futurama. It is pretty
    good. I like Bender. I like the Enterprise show on UPN and
    the original Star Trek.
     
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    Has anyone seen the movie"Anger Management"?
    Subliminal messages abound! Adam Sandler on airplane"I,m sorry" White male politely asks tyrannical female flight attendant for headset to hear in flight movie.

    He asks politely three or four more times,and she goes off on him!This draws the attention of a large black air marshall who tells him to keep his voice down"which he never raises"

    He ends up in front of a black female judge! Can "Hollyweird" get any worse?
     
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    It has become obvious that Adam Sandler was picked on as a youth. There
    is no other rational explanation for the fact that every one of his
    increasingly tiresome movies has to have him portray a tough guy. Given
    Sandler's short, dumpy physique, this could be a comedic vehicle, but
    much like Hollywood having 98 1b. super models punching out huge white
    thugs with one blow, Sandler punches out other white males in every
    film, and there is no joke about it. From what I understand, Sandler is
    the lead in the re-make of "The Longest Yard," the old Burt Reynolds
    film. For those of you who have seen this film, you know that Reynolds
    played an ex-football star who leads a group of convicts against the
    warden's favorite team. Sandler's sensitivity towards being a young
    nerd has really gone crazy with this one; how can anyone believe that
    this out of shape, obvious non-athlete was ever a football star?
     
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    I have always though Sandler's movies actually were
    supportive of white athletes in general, just by having them appear in
    his movies. Yes, Bobby Knight, Rocket, and many others have been
    made fun of, but by showing white athletes, he dismisses black
    stereotypes.

    For example, he shows a white quarterback in Mr. Deeds.

    By the way, I think Mr. Deeds remake was meant to be
    a comedy, not Communist commentary. The original Mr. Deeds was
    Communist commentary, but this film is just good-natured comedy.
     
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    This show is probably too depraved and juvenile for those of
    you more mature than myself, but I really enjoy South Park.
    There's something cathartic about watching something so
    obscene and outrageous. We're so strait-jacketed by Political
    Correctness in this country, that's probably what makes it so
    refreshing. It has to be the most anti-liberal (or at least
    non-liberal) shows on television. Recently I saw their show on
    immigration again. Except in South Park, the immigrants come
    from the future- called "Goobacks"- and they made it very clear
    that things are worse in South Park now that there are too
    many of these "Gooback" immigrants. Cartman is a funny, evil
    little b*stard. He's anti-Semitic, racist, and completely
    self-absorbed. He's constantly giving Kyle a hard time for
    being a Jew, and comes perilously close to becoming a 9 year
    old Hitler in the episode where they parodied "A Passion of the
    Christ." And the Jennifer Lopez episode- where Cartman
    pretended that his hand was J-Lo and sang songs like "Taco
    Flavored Kisses"- was wonderfully insensitive.

    Sometimes I disagree with their political commentary. The
    episode where they were making fun of celebrities who didn't
    like their music being downloaded was off base. (I still
    appreciated the comedy in that episode, but stealing
    intellectual property shouldn't be rationalized away as no big
    deal since those greedy celebrities are so damn rich anyway.)
    But generally they're smart and original, and definitely un-PC.

    And after several years on the air I think it's as funny now as
    it's ever been.

    Also, I think "Curb Your Enthusiasm" is very funny and
    well-written. Some here might not like Larry David because
    he's... well... you know... but I think he's a very bright
    comedian.
     
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    South Park is very funny and Un PC, but it is not
    Prime Time. It is really a late night show, so when people think
    of TV shows, they will not think of South Park. It is simple and
    each episode has the same formula. It lacks a timeless quality
    that other shows have.

    Family guy is another hilarious show. It has
    elements of the Simpsons and South Park. It is unneccessarily
    vulgar. This show will be a classic.
     
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    Another one I like is "Da Ali G Show." Ali G is a hilarious
    parody of rappers (we can't have too much of them being
    made fun of), and his other two characters are also
    side-splitting. I don't know how he gets all those "important
    figures" (like Newt Gingrich, Ralph Nader, C. Everett Koop,
    etc.) to do an interview with "Ali G." The Borat skit where he
    got everyone in a bar to sing along to an Anti-Semitic song was
    hysterical. And the one where his Austrian gay fashion
    character (forget his name) was cheerleading at a football
    game, and some of the fans looked like they were getting
    ready to pummel him was a little scary but also hilarious.

    The Daily Show is occasionally funny. Jon Stewart is very
    liberal, and I can only assume that all or most of the writers
    are, too. But it's just so easy to make fun of politicians and
    other public figures. How untalented would a comedian have
    to be to not be able to deliver a funny joke about Dubya? He's
    a human punch line.
     
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    I have to say, "Da Ali G" show is the funniest show I've ever watched in my life. You know how rare it is to laugh out loud when you're watching something by yourself. It has to be pretty damn funny for that to happen. Well, there have been several Ali G shows where I laughed the whole way through them. Not all of them hit the mark but most are hilarious.

    All three of the main characters are funny. I like the interviews by the rapper best, because his appearance, and the fact that he talks and looks like he's probably a light-skinned black, keeps his interview subjects from calling him the obvious idiot that he is and ending the interview. You can practically see the gears grinding in their head -- "is this guy for real? He is the stupidest person I've ever encountered in my life. If he was white I'd tell him where to go." Inspired lunacy is a good way to describe this show.
     
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    "Da Ali G" show is great because it clearly shows what pathetic panderers powerful white people are. It's also alarming because the ordinary white people that he interacts with in the guise of his various characters are exceedingly polite, but are so "tolerant" that they put up with just about anything because they are well trained not to do or say anything "politically incorrect." Can you imagine a flaming queen in pre-1990 America getting away with just about anything the way "Bruno" does? Or a clownishly dressed, light-skinned black interviewer asking idiotic question after idiotic question to various people without anyone objecting or calling him out? It's a very funny show but very illuminating as well on how low America has sunk.
     
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    Except for Andy Rooney! He loathed Ali G.[​IMG]
     
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    There have been others as well. Clinton's press secretary, can't think of his name right now. He ended the interview, saying "this guy is an idiot." (One of the questions: "Does Hillary Clinton drink from the furry cup?") Clay Douglas (publisher of The Free American until his very serious motorcycle accident in May of '04) really tore into Bruno the homosexual interviewer. And there was a guy at a Southern gun show who threatened to beat up Bruno if he asked any more questions dealing with homosexuality.
     

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