Tom Zbikowski

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Lemming may be willing to speak a bit of the truth, but he is a willing perpetrator of the Caste System himself through his recruiting service. 

Yeah, the recruiting services suck. But it's good when people "in the mainstream" and "in the know" confirm our message, even if it's just little kernels here and there. It legitimizes what we're all about to a certain degree. (Now I'm not saying we need them to legitimize us, but it does add weight to our ideas, nonetheless.)
 

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Here is another good article on Zbikowski. At least if he gets shafted by the NFL, he can always go to boxing or the UFC.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/osu/dai ly/1231arch.html?UrAuth=aNcNUO%60NUUbTTUWUXUTUZTZUbUWU_U%60U ZUbUZUcTYWVVZV

'Zibby' packs Irish punch
By Tom Archdeacon

Dayton Daily News

TEMPE, Ariz. | When Charlie Weis took over as the new Notre Dame coach following last season's lackluster 6-6 effort, the first thing he did was begin to toughen up the players and get them to finally live up to their name.

They weren't supposed to be The Break-Even Irish.

And certainly not The Get Beat 41-16 by Purdue, 41-10 by USC Irish.

They were The Fighting Irish.

And that's why the blunt, bulldog coach  regardless of prodding and chastising he had to do with others  couldn't help but fall in love with the bent-nosed, burr-cut safety, Tom Zbikowski.

Weis didn't have to toughen up this kid. Zbikowski already was tough. Tough as nails.

In fact, back home in Arlington Heights, Ill., that's his name  Nails Zbikowski. It's also his game, as in "I'll nail you every chance I get."

Talk about putting some fight in The Fighting Irish, Zbikowski is a heavyweight boxer of note. He's one of Chicago's best Golden Glovers. He trained with Ultimate Fighting champ Royce Gracie, fought for Oscar De La Hoya's team in California and was deemed worthy enough as a kid that the legendary Jake LaMotta once sat down with him for lunch and some fight talk.

Zbikowski prides himself in the fact he's never been knocked out, knocked down or even taken a standing eight count. He's won 65 of 78 amateur bouts and knocked out three of the last four guys he's faced.

Monday afternoon he's looking to land another KO blow, this one on the chin of the Ohio State Buckeyes in a Fiesta Bowl bout more anticipated than any postseason game but the national title game between unbeatens Texas and USC. But against OSU, Zbikowski will have his hands full with one of the best corps of receivers  Santonio Holmes, Ted Ginn Jr., Anthony Gonzalez and Roy Hall  in college football.

"They've got four threats that could be the No. 1 receivers at almost any other school," Zbikowski said. "One to four, there's no drop off. And their quarterback, Troy Smith, is playing better and better as each game goes by.

"We figure we have to be as physical as we can with them. Guys like Ginn and Holmes have too much speed for pretty much anyone. You can't play off them a little bit or you'll get burned. But teams that get physical with them, teams that try to mess up their timing right at the line of scrimmage have been more successful. And if you get a lot of guys flying around, get two and three guys hitting them, they've been known to put the ball on the ground.

"To beat Ohio State, you've got to be as physical as possible with them."

For Notre Dame, no one does a better job of that than the 5-foot-11, 202-pound junior. Midway through this 9-2 season, Rick Minter  the former Cincinnati Bearcats head coach who now serves as Notre Dame's defensive coordinator  put it best when he told reporters that on every play Zbikowski "looks like a kamikaze pilot on a death mission."

He has intercepted a team-high five passes and returned two  against Tennessee and Brigham Young  for touchdowns. He returned punts by USC and Tennessee for two more scores and ended the season as an Associated Press third-team All-American.

So many Notre Dame players have blossomed under Weis' no-nonsense watch this season, but none more so than Zbikowski.

Although he was an All-American quarterback in high school and received 56 Division I scholarship offers  Nebraska and Iowa wanted him as a quarterback, Maryland and Clemson as a receiver, several other schools as a defensive back  Zbikowski came to Notre Dame, the school he'd loved since a kid, only to end up an after-thought who soon wanted to transfer.

In the 2003 season, he dressed for only one game and never played. Although he started last season, he had just one interception and the Irish secondary  which gave up 281.2 yards a game  was considered a weak link.

But with Zbikowski, it was just that he was still learning his new position, not that he lacked toughness.

If anything, he was too tough. Certainly tougher than Weis knew.

Although he had curtailed his fisticuffs for football  turning down an offer to appear on The Contender and spurning offers from fight promoters who wanted to turn him pro  Zbikowski did have a fight last winter that Weis knew nothing about.

It was on a late-night card in Chicago and Zbikowski slipped out of South Bend accompanied by several of his teammates including his roommate, receiver Jeff Samardzija, quarterback Brady Quinn and defensive end Victor Abiamiri.

"That night was so cool," Abiamiri said. "Zibby's one of the toughest guys on our team, but I had no idea. There he was in the ring, staring down the guy face to face and then he's throwing haymakers, left and right. He stopped the guy in the third round . We were going nuts out in the crowd."

And yet the next morning at 6  after just 90 minutes of sleep  there was Zbikowski back at Notre Dame, leading his team through winter conditioning drills.

"It's a good feeling knowing you have a guy like Zibby with you on the field, fighting for us every play," Abiamiri said.

Zbikowski said there are some lessons that transfer from the fight game to the football field:

"It helps you with discipline and mental toughness. When it becomes crunch time in boxing  when it's the final round and you can't breath, can't call time out, can't go anywhere  you've just got to suck it up and try to survive.

"And you can draw on that in football when you're out there on a long drive in the fourth quarter and the game's on the line. That's when you remember some of those things from boxing."

Yet, the best fight lesson, he said, came from his mom.

"She wasn't big on my boxing," he said with a shrug, then a smile. "She told me if I ever got knocked out, ever got knocked down, that was it. There'd be no more. I'd be done. So the one way to survive with her was to be tougher than the next guy."

It's worked in the ring and with Notre Dame football, where his tough-guy approach helped get the team into Monday night's big game and, just as importantly, helped it regain its name.

Thanks to Tom Zbikowski, there's once again plenty of fight in The Fighting Irish.
 

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SteveB said:
Although he was an All-American quarterback in high school and received 56 Division I scholarship offers â€â€￾ Nebraska and Iowa wanted him as a quarterback, Maryland and Clemson as a receiver, several other schools as a defensive back â€â€￾ Zbikowski came to Notre Dame, the school he'd loved since a kid, only to end up an after-thought who soon wanted to transfer.

Another sentimental decision. I hate that. He took a risk and it almost didn't pay off. White high school football players must make smart, educated decisions about where they're going to college. It's a big and necessary step to undoing the Caste System.
 

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What exactly does that post mean, whiteboy? Has Zib been replaced? Please inform us if you know something. Welcome to Caste Football!
 

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From today's NY Post...

Notre Dame safety Tom Zbikowski will make his professional debut against Robert Ball (2-2) on the Cotto-Malignaggi (June 10th) undercard. The Irish football team is expected to be in attendance.
 

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It looks to start on Pay Per View at what I think to be 9PM Eastern, with a Mexican Puerto Rican rivalry, Manuel Lopez of Puerto Rico against Sergio Mendez of Mexico City. Each guy undefeated. Then some veterans, Bobby Pacquiao, the younger brother of Manny Pacquiao, will defend WBC Continental America's title against Kevin Kelley, a former champion and very, very popular in New York.

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. will then fight a six-rounder Aaron Drake, a hard punching guy with eight knock-outs of his ten fights, from Kansas City. And that'll be followed by the favorite, a favorite fighter of New York, guy's been selling thousands of tickets, Irish John Duddy, 16 and 0 with 14 knock-outs from Derry, Ireland, and he'll be fighting Freddy Cuevas of Chicago, 25 wins, 8 defeats, 17 knock-outs.

Prior to the main event a preview of the National Football Collegiate Championship, Robert Bell of Akron, Ohio 2 and 2, will fight against the captain of the Notre Dame Football team making his pro debut, Tommy Zbikowski.

Then the main event will start. I hope this helps and is accurate.
 

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I hear at least 40 players from ND are expected to be in attendance. I also heard that sikce Rob Bell is from Ohio he'll be wearing a Ohio St jersey into the ring and will be sporting scarlet and gray boxing shorts, just to get at Tom that much more. So I guess what this Bell guy is looking for is one hell of an ass whippin.
 

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It is going to be on HBO pay per view, if that helps anyone. I found a really crappy article on Zib on CBS Sportsline.
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<H2>Zbikowski gets KO</H2>
<H1>Notre Dame safety wins pro debut in 49 seconds</H1>


NEW YORK (AP) -- Tommy Zbikowski, a third-team All-America at safety at Notre Dame, made his professional boxing debut with a 49-second, first-round knockout of the totally outclassed Robert Bell at Madison Square Garden on Saturday night.


The 21-year-old Zbikowski, of Arlington Heights, Ill., won 75 of his 90 amateur bouts and earned $25,000 for his first pro fight.


He had two knockdowns of the 32-year-old Bell before referee Arthur Mercante Jr. called the scheduled four-round fight.


"I worked hard the last six, seven weeks," said the Notre Dame player, who had more than 50 teammates on hand. "I wanted to prove that I was more than just a football player."


Bell, of Akron, Ohio, fell to 2-3.


Zbikowski is able to be a professional in one sport and amateur in another according to NCAA rules as long as he does not receive money for endorsements or commercials.


[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/more/06/10/bc.box.zbik owski.cotto.ap/index.html[/url]Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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way to go!
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now about that third-team All-America thing...
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btw, how many "safeties" have been timed at 4.3 in the 40 and were high school all-American corners? i can only think of one...
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If the media were fair, Tommy will be as acclaimed and hyped as any college football player in the country during the upcoming season. But two examplesin recent years of two star athletes offer vivid contrasts in how they were treated and publicized. Bo Jackson was made into a media megastar replete with him starring as the centerpiece in various advertising campaigns. But Jeremy Bloom was forbidden from playing college football in a decision that seemed based on the politics and ideologyof the Caste System.


The base belief of the Caste System is that whites are inferior athletes to blacks, at some sports and positions within some sports so vastly inferior as to boggle the mind, so the thought ofeven one white athlete -- one with Bloom's exceptional speed yet --excelling at the highest levels of two sports and being celebrated for itis strictly verboten.


But if Notre Dame has a huge season this year, Quinn, Samardjiza and Zbikowski will be big stars because they are the three best players on the team. The Fighting Irish have a large and loyal national following including among a lot of non-Catholic football fans, so these three players can deal the Caste System not a knockout blow, but maybe anice littlebeat down, led by Tommy Zbikowski, a genuine "Fighting Irish."
 

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I am really glad that Zib has added to his fame. The publicity is good for our purposes, and it has to be a boost to his confidence that he was able to win his first pro fight. There will always be those who won't give him the credit he is due and we know the score as far as they go. Their agendas do not go un-noticed, at least by us. Way to go Tom!
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Don Wassall said:
If the media were fair, Tommy will be as acclaimed and hyped as any college football player in the country during the upcoming season.  But  two examples in recent years of two star athletes offer vivid contrasts in how they were treated and publicized.  Bo Jackson was made into a media megastar replete with him starring as the centerpiece in various advertising campaigns.  But Jeremy Bloom was forbidden from playing college football in a decision that seemed based on the politics and ideology of the Caste System. 


The base belief of the Caste System is that whites are inferior athletes to blacks, at some sports and positions within some sports so vastly inferior as to boggle the mind, so the thought of even one white athlete -- one with Bloom's exceptional speed yet -- excelling at the highest levels of two sports and being celebrated for it is strictly verboten.


But if Notre Dame has a huge season this year, Quinn, Samardjiza and Zbikowski will be big stars because they are the three best players on the team.   The Fighting Irish have a large and loyal national following including among a lot of non-Catholic football fans, so these three players can deal the Caste System not a knockout blow, but maybe a nice little beat down, led by Tommy Zbikowski, a genuine "Fighting Irish."&lt;!-- Message ''"" --&gt;

You are as always correct Don. It will take superstar star athletes on winning big time teams to put dents through the caste system. So by all of ND's best players being white and two of them at "black" positions it will be a KO to the caste system courtesy of Tommy Z and Samardjiza. If tommy Z was a black all-american football player boxing he would be sooooo much more hyped up. It's alright though Tommy's gonna be knockin people out this fall and returning punts for TDs all the time.
 

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Holy Cow Kiper has moved Tommy Z into his top 25 rankings, at #21 to be exact. When was the last time a white DB made Kiper's top 25 list. This is a day for the ages. lol By the way Eric Weddle deserves to be on there as he is betetr than Tommy Z or any other DB in the country as he can play CB or S but the NFL will only acknowledge his Safety play.
 
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Thought i would bump this


My Thoughts on Zibby echo those of alot of Notre Dame Fans...


Zibby is Fast,Hits like a brick and has outstanding hands...But i dont think he has the instincts for Safety...He overblows coverages and can at times look lost out there...


Id much prefer if he were played in the apache Linebacker position(A Safety/Linebacker hybrid) which would give him more chances and freedomto make plays which is what he is so good at.I honestly think hes wasted as a safety in Weis's scheme.
 

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I think Zbikowski is a more in the box type safety. He is really strong, hits bigand has a great speed. He is a good player but the way the rest of that secondary plays is just garbage.
 

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I see where he has received one more year of eligibility, i hope he does not go the way samardziji did and not go to the nfl but opt for boxing.
 

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I see where he has received one more year of eligibility, i hope he does not go the way samardziji did and not go to the nfl but opt for boxing.

i have a friend that parties a lot with ND football team and she told me that Tommy is staying in school. let's hope she's wrong!
 

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backrow said:
cxt7 said:
I see where he has received one more year of eligibility, i hope he does not go the way samardziji did and not go to the nfl but opt for boxing.

i have a friend that parties a lot with ND football team and she told me that Tommy is staying in school. let's hope she's wrong!

Um no let's hope she's right. Actually she is right underclassmen can't declare anymore and Tommy Z even talked to Weis and says he's staying. Good move. It will only help out his draft stock and keep me watching Notre Dame for one more year.
 

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Oops... Wrong forum. Zib Rules!!!
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is Tommy even playing today? i am watching a game between chores and so far haven't spotted him.
 
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