Tim Tebow

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  1. GWTJ

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    Blackathlete.com is crying foul(racism). In their minds, no white player is ever good enough to beat out a black player based on talent alone. I cut and pasted this article from todays "Blackbox" section of their site:


    CHRIS
    LEAK'S
    'AGONY'

    LIVING IN THE SHADOW
    OF A FRESHMAN AS
    GATORS RISE TO
    #2 IN AP POLL


    CHRIS LEAK OVER SHADOWED

    No one will talk about it

    especially Chris Leak

    but he is Suffering

    in an Agonizing

    sort of Way

    Chris Leak definitely is the Starting Quarterback for the 6-0 as of Sunday #2 in the AP Poll, Florida Gators, who IF they remain Undefeated along with the Ohio Buckeyes "should" play for the NCAA National Championship. Leak was even named Player of the Game in Florida's impressive 23-10 win over LSU.

    They leapt all the Way

    up from #5 to #2

    very unusual

    RARE

    How could things be Better

    for Quarterback Chris Leak

    They would be far far better IF a Freshman named Tim Tebow was not on the Team. Chris Leak will NEVER say that. Because of this Freshman Quarterback "phenom" who has already been proclaimed the Future of Gator Football for the next 3 years following this season and IF it were up to the Florida fans would have already replaced Chris Leak, because of Tebow ........

    It is almost as though Leak does not exist even as he has his Glory Season. Making things that much worse for Leak ,Coach Meyer has pulled Leak out of games this season at Critical Moments in favor of Tebow which just fires up the Florida Gator fans in the stands and on Florida talk radio that much more.

    Get it straight

    this is a very very

    unusual situation

    It is not completely unusual for a Freshman Quarterbacks to eclipse a Starting Senior. But it is ALWAYS because the team is doing poorly and/or the Starting QB is clearly a Problem. That is not the case here. Leak is on the verge of becoming the most productive Quarterback in University of Florida history by the end of this season surpassing the "legendary " Gator QB Danny Wuerffel.

    But it still doesn't matter

    Leak cannot shake Tim Tebow. Even with Chris Leak #5 or #6 on all the various all unofficial Heisman Trophy Watch lists still Chris Leak cannot shake Tim Tebow. In fact because of Tebow, Leak's true Heisman prospects are being depressed both because his stature is diminished and because Tebow is playing in critical plays in which Leak could be scoring BIG Heisman points for himself.

    Even Chris Leak's potential NFL career by way of the 2007 NFL Draft is clearly being diminished because he is getting a rap as "inferior" to the QB who will replace him at the University of Florida even though there is NO statistical data to support it. Besides NO matter how good Tebow may prove why should that effect the reaction of NFL teams to Leak at all ? But it does !

    It is even Worse

    It is quite possible QUITE POSSIBLE Leak is only one poor performance from losing his Starting Quarterback job to Tebow. Nobody says that of course. But just as clearly Leak must play every game with that idea hanging over him.

    Here's a real Nightmare Scenario

    for Chris Leak that should be

    Impossible but isn't

    Chris Leak could lead the Gators to an Undefeated 12-0 season remaining the Starting Quarterback and still have to worry that Coach Urban Meyer might replace him with Tim Tebow or at least announce they will "share" QB responsibilities in the Big Game. In Tempe, Arizona in January.

    Think that is Nonsense. Well the you clearly don't really understand the situation at the University of Florida right now. And the Hype for Tebow at Leak's expense for no Good (sic) Reason. Except One ...

    Now we did not raise

    the issue of Racism

    in the Box Headline

    or even until now

    in the Body

    of the Box

    But it is not easy to deny the fact that exists that WHITE Quarterbacks have an advantage over African Americans. Even today. In this case it may seem to be so well "hidden" that you couldn't pry it loose with a crowbar. There are NO Racist finger prints that will be found that is UNLESS you apply .....

    the virtual litmus test

    we invented in the Box

    which works so well

    Does anyone that is ANYONE believe that if Senior Starting Champion Chris Leak was WHITE and Freshman Tim Tebow was BLACK that anyone would be clamoring for Tebow to replace the "great" Chris Leak, or that Leak would be pulled from games at important moments in favor of 'Black' Tebow.

    Or that the stands would explore with Wild Cheering when Black Tebow would come on the Field to replace White Leak. Or that Florida sports talk radio would be criticizing Coach Meyer for keeping Leak in fort so long instead of giving Tim Tebow even more playing time than he is.

    IF you believe

    Chris Leak and

    Tim Tebow would

    be receiving the

    Exact Same Treatment

    they are right now

    in Florida IF

    there Skin Color

    was Reversed

    you are a Fool

    a BIG Fool
     
  2. devans

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    Let's see who gets drafted, and is given a starting spot in the NFL.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    Uh, I do. [​IMG] That's precious, claiming that football is still racist against blacks, and that white fans favor white players over black ones. How much respect did Chris Rix get as a senior at Florida State, to name just one example out of many that could be cited.


    It really is an amazing phenomenon that the more respect and prestige that blacks receive, even if contrived, the more it causes most of them to become ultra-paranoid and see "white racism" everywhere around them. It's just more evidence that pandering, and creating elaborate artificial constructs like the Caste System, will never create harmony between the races.
     
  4. GreatLakeState

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    Is Tom Brady black? He was a hall of fame quarterback who was
    platooned wtih Drew Henson, and that probably cost him draft status --
    sixth round.
     
  5. backrow

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    well, if he wants to see those roles reversed look no further: Ray Rice and Heisman Candidate Brian Leonard, a senior runningback...
     
  6. Colonel_Reb

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    Good point backrow! As for that article, it is complete and utter horsefeathers.
     
  7. Triad

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    Great article and way past time for a Tebow thread. If it wasn't for Tebow it's unlikely Florida would have beaten Tennessee or LSU. Tebow got several first downs in the UT game that Leak was unwilling to get and he accounted for 21 of the team's 23 points against LSU. It may only be a coincidence but Leak's best record at Florida is when the freshman phenom shows up. Pre-Tebow, Leak has the worst win-loss record for a QB at Florida since before Spurrier took over.

    It is ironic that Peyton Hillis and Brian Leonard, et. al. are supposed to be "team players" and willingly give up all their carries and block for others but Leak is allowed to be selfish when asked to share some minimal time with a player who is obviously more talented. Tebow is only given minimum opportunities but Leak can't stand his success or the crowd's reaction to Tebow.

    We touched on this topic in an earlier thread.
    Chris Leak Worship


    A couple things from the article:
    Tebow throws 2 touchdowns (he's 2 for 2 in the game) and rushes for a third and Leak got game MVP. WTF?

    As far as sharing time at QB, Georgia tried that during David Greene's career there. DJ Shockley played an identical role as Tebow (although not nearly as successful) to Greene who was SEC's winningest QB ever.

    In fact, splitting time arguably cost Georgia a national championship. One year with Georgia controlling the game against Florida, Richt inserted Shockley into the game and he threw an interception that led to a UF touchdown and cost Georgia the game, their only loss of the season. Edited by: Triad
     
  8. Kaptain

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    A thread on Tebow has been way overdue. He is the best running QB in college football. It's funny how blackathlete.com suddenly wants to suppress an athletic running QB - how ironic. Tebow is such a powerful runner I'm sure that he would be an outstanding RB if he were given a chance. It's almost as if by playing Tebow at quarterback Florida has an excuse to let him run the ball being that it's frowned upon to actually hand the ball off to a "white boy". In the future it will be interesting to see if the NFL will give Tebow the Eric Crouch treatment or the Michael Vick treatment.
     
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    One word: DELUSIONAL</font>

    Oh, we're not fools. We know white and black players don't receive the same treatment. But while there are tons of black QB's in college football, there are very few white RB's and CB's, and zero white RB's and CB's in the NFL. Oh, but wait, I forgot, when blacks fail it's due to racism, but when whites fail, it's always because blacks are better. My bad, I forgot that blacks are superior. Thanks for putting me in my place.
     
  10. Deus Vult

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    Tim Tebow was VERY impressive versus LSU! He ran over All American safety LaRon Landry and another would-be tackler. Tebow threw two TD passes ad ran for another against an LSU defense that is rated one of the best in college football.

    The real question is why Tim Tebow should have to share reps at QB with Chris Leak.
     
  11. Colonel_Reb

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    Tim Tebow is ripping up the Auburn defense. What a run he just made! 16 yards! I wonder how Leak is taking all this success by Tebow? He can't be totally ok with it, at least thats my take on it.
     
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    I think you posted in the wrong area, white is right! [​IMG]
     
  14. Don Wassall

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    I haven't seen Tebow play yet, but I did just catch a highlight of his nice touchdown run, after which Craig James called Tebow a "courageous runner." This stereotype brought to us by the NFL's last white thousand yard rusher. [​IMG]
     
  15. Triad

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    Tebow saw limited action tonight and Florida LOST!!!
    Coincidence?

    Tebow had 3 carries for 19 yards and a touchdown. Leak was 9/17 for 108 yards, 1 touchdown and 1 interception. He also had a costly fumble in the 4th with UF about to take the lead. Also, on UF's last play the ball was lateraled to Leak who didn't want any part of that. He mishandled the pitch and it was returned for a score. Leak accounted for 1 score and three turnovers while Tebow accounted for 1 score in a handful of plays.

    Now that the honeymoon is over it will be interesting to see if Leak continues to accept Tebow's role or if he begins to question the coach publicly about hurting his [Leak's] chance at some UF passing records.
     
  16. OC football

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    I believe that Tebow will prove to be the best QB in the country next year. He can run, he is smart, has good size, a strong arm, confidence in himself, and leadership qualities. As an added bonus, for all the ladies in the house; he is good looking.

    Leak is a good Quarterback and I would like to see him continue as Flordia's starter. Remember, Tebow is just a freshman. I would hate to see Tebow take the wheel here as he is only 19 years old.

    The only regrett I have here is in that Tebow does not play for a more white friendly team. He surely could lead a team like Penn State to a championship.
     
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    I wonder what blackafflete.com has to say about Leak's performance now? I suppose Tebow's one 1 play 16 yard touchdown run disrupted Leak's rhythm for the rest of the game.

    I have never been particularly impressed with Chris Leak. As a four year starter he should break some records - big deal. Florida has fell off the college football map during that span until Tim Tebow ignited the team this year. In my opinion Tebow should have replaced Leak a game ago - they would still be in contention for a national title.

    Anybody else notice that Tebow seemed to have less playing time this week than any other week? Could his reduced roll be the result of the recent whining by Leak worshipers? I think so. The game isn't about winning anymore it's about perserving a the closely coveted caste system even if that cost you a national title.
     
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    Probably so. The critical play was 3rd and 2 inside the
    Auburn 20. Tebow just gained two yards on a 2nd and 4 and was taken out of the game. Usually Tebow gets all the short yardage plays inside the red zone but with Leak on the sideline scowling, Urban put him back in for a pass play. Fumble there and interception on Leak's next play = game over.

    Can't wait for the excuses about Leak not getting enough attempts or a chance to get into a rhythm to start.
     
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    I wish Meyer would get some balls. He obviously thinks Tebow as the ideal starter for his system.

    Just start him already!
     
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    He is only a freshman. I dont believe in starting freshman at quarterback. The position is too high profile. They must be eased into that kind of pressure. I support Meyer's decision to split time between Leak and Tebow. Granted Tebow should be getting a bit more time then he got aginst Auborn.
     
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    Gotta disagree. Leak started as a freshmen. Clearly Tebow gives them the best chance to win. A national title doesn't come around often and now it just passed Florida by.
     
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    Heard Tewbow might play some Rb for the SEC Championship Game
     
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    That would be incredible.I wish we could see what he would do if he got 20 touches a game.I know that he is an incredible qb but damn can he run.He just knows how to juke people and has a great combo of power plus speed.I'm looking forward to watching alot of Gators Football next season because of him.
     
  25. Realistic

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    This article was written by a racist idiot but of course we all know that. Of ALL the things blacks don't have room to bellyache about it's racism in football. They ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt whether it's recruiting, admissions, or playing time.

    However, I'd like to point out something that hasn't been mentioned. The UF program is bigger than Leak or Tebow. Next year Urban Meyer will have a QB who has been in every game in pressure situations. That is EXACTLY how you do it if you're a smart coach looking ahead. It's not about Leak getting the Heisman, he's not going to get it anyway. It's about having a QB step in next year who's been in big games and knows what it's like.

    Bobby Petrino did the same thing during Brian Brohm's first year and it worked well. We didn't hear anything about it because both of the Louisville QB's were white.
     

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