The NBA is trending down.

Discussion in 'NBA' started by Shadowlight, May 7, 2017.

  1. Shadowlight

    Shadowlight Mentor

    Mar 16, 2013
    Nice article by Samuel Chi up at Breitbart News. There is a graph from four years ago that illustrates sports that are popular for Democrats and or Republicans. Tennis, European Soccer and NBA fans were more Democrat while Auto Racing, NHL , College Football and Golf fans were more likely to be Republicans. Most of the other major sports landed somewhere near the middle or just a touch to the Republican ledger. Obviously this is not a straight line thing as most all sports are enjoyed by people from all over the political spectrum but it does emphasize which sports are favored by "conservatives" and which sports are favored by "liberals" in a general sense. Chi correctly believes that the NBA fan base has shifted even more left since this graph was put up four years ago.
    The NBA which ESPN is heavily invested in, is experiencing some problems similar to the downward spiral the NFL found itself in during the first half of their season. ESPN coverage of the NBA this season is down 5 % and TNT is down 8%. Even more problematic are the local station ratings. 15 NBA teams had double digit losses on their local TV ratings and across the 30 teams ratings were down a whopping 14% across 30 markets. To summarize that isn't good.
    Chi sites several political moments that probably turned away some fans like the Donald Sterling incident where a private conversation was used against him. High profile players like Lebron and Curry and several Head Coaches coming out against Donald Trump are cited as well.
    But what is not mentioned is what I think is the main reason the NBA is faltering. Mediocre product to a degree is hurting the league but mainly the LACK OF WHITE STARS is the REAL PROBLEM. And I am not just talking about filling up the rosters with a few more white guys. No I am talking about having several top flight white stars dot the NBA landscape. And the sport needs to present itself so white folks are not turned off by it too. If they can't or don't address the lack of whites issue then I suspect the NBA will continue to suffer. ESPN has decided to put most of their muscle behind this league but if the NBA keeps losing fans this whole set up could get ugly real fast. In fact it already has started to get ugly.
  2. Shadowlight

    Shadowlight Mentor

    Mar 16, 2013
    According to Breitbart the ESPN and TNT were down 17% this past season. Not sure how accurate those numbers are because other sources has the 4 networks, ESPN, ABC, TNT and NBA down around 9%. No matter the bottom line is the NBA like the NFL, which was also down 8% last season, showed major signs of slippage. Mike Golic has falsely been saying the NBA numbers are great but he is such a jerk it is not worth discussing. Obviously the Anthem
    politics of the NFL was part of the problem but in my estimation the NFL started to show signs of life in the latter part of the season and a "white friendly" team like the Patriots winning the SB in such a spectacular fashion along with signs (small as they are) that whites will play a larger role in glory positions like RB and WR, indicates the NFL should bounce back nicely this year.
    The NBA's future is on less solid footing. The local numbers in some markets, not reflected in the numbers above, were downright ugly.
    And Disney is up to their neck in a long ultra expensive deal with the NBA so don't think some big boys are not getting nervous.
    The stacking of teams like the Warriors is starting to backfire and the general lack of competition has dulled everything down. Secondarily, any sort of significant white presence is at what seems like an all time low. So this off season it appears the NBA is taking some steps to address these issues but it doesn't look like they have done enough to stop the leaking. Some teams have made a few bold moves and the big market Celtics nabbing the best young white player Hayward kind of indicates to me the NBA is aware of the two fold problem of lack of competitive play and ( the unsaid ) lack of white stars.
    Which means the white factor should start to improve and lets hope that does happen and that it is expanded as time moves on. And if that does happen expect the NBA numbers to perk up.
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
  3. white lightning

    white lightning Hall of Famer Staff Member

    Oct 16, 2004
    Larry Bird addressed the issue about a decade ago. The NBA needs more white superstars to keep the average
    fans interested. It was alot more enjoyable to watch a few decades ago. Hope to see it get back to those type
    of teams again.
  4. Ambrose

    Ambrose Master

    Feb 23, 2013
    New York
    For all intents and purposes the NBA is an African league. It has become this by plan and design not chance not evolution. As Africans measure a mere 10-12% of the population of the United States of America, the league has done very well for itself over the past 30 years of racial segregation. Though as old patrons die or lose interest, and as fewer and fewer new patrons from outside the African groups are welcomed in, the league's pool of patrons dwindles to that of mostly Africans and a dusting of dizzy, confounded whites, and speckled with a few lost stragglers from other races and foreign kin. There, then, the trending down of the league should come as no surprise for Africans have been trending down every day, every week, every month and year for what seems to be forever.
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  5. DixieDestroyer

    DixieDestroyer Hall of Famer

    Jan 19, 2007
    The NBA was far better in the 80's (& 90's).
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  6. La France Blanche

    La France Blanche Guru

    Sep 12, 2016
    If the NBA was, say, 60% black and 40% White, its owners could still promote the myth of the black supa afflete while having enough White bodies to draw in a large, normal, mainstream, non-wigger White audience. But NBA owners, and in fact virtually all the powers that be, appear to prefer doubling down on anti-whiteness over maximizing profits.

    (Such a percentage would still be biased in favor of blacks; a fair, ability-based NBA would be majority White, just like a fair NFL would have teams that looked like the '72 Dolphins, with the '85 Bears {32 Whites, 21 blacks} being about as black as it would get).
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  7. GiovaniMarcon

    GiovaniMarcon Mentor

    Mar 2, 2008
    Westwood, California
    I lost a lot of interest in the NBA mostly because the quality of the play is usually trash.

    I like to look at old NBA games from the 1980s and into the 1990s. I enjoy watching a team like the Celtics or Jazz which has a conspicuously high number of Whites relative to other teams, but I even enjoyed looking at a heavily Black team such as the Pistons. Quality is quality and I like to give credit where credit is due. Even a dirty team like the 80s early 90s Pistons still had a lot of fundamental, White-style skill on display, which made it tolerable to watch.

    I'd find short-springting tolerable even if it's mostly Black if the idea of all the athletes being drug cheats wasn't so obvious. If there were no drug cheats and Whites were actually recruited and encouraged to take up sprinting I'm sure Whites would be more prevalent in American sprinting. Track seems to be unpopular compared to how it was in the 60s to 80s. Watching the middle distances, such as the 800 meter and 1500 meter and mile, are more watchable because there's usually a fair number of White guys who have a realistic chance of winning.

    But back to the NBA, even if it were all Black I'd still tune in once in a while if I was seeing some amazing play, but it's SUCH crap!

    NFL is the same way. The Whiter the team, the better it is, so it's no surprise the worst teams are Black as night.
  8. Heretic

    Heretic Mentor

    May 1, 2015
    1994 was the last year for me. After that it just became a tattooed, thug-ridden league and I dropped it like a hot potato. There were moments in the early-to-mid 2000's when there was an unusually large influx of Euros so I started watching it again at least occasionally. Then there was another increase in my viewership when the Timberwolves a few years back were starting (gulp) five White players and I was hoping again more recently with the Bulls draft a few years ago, but that never came into fruition so I never watched it again.
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  9. RTTAS

    RTTAS Newbie

    Sep 16, 2015
    Unfortunately NBA is by far the most popular US sport here in Australia - it's seen as the "cool" "hip" and "trendy" thing to follow, and Australians have been doing alright recently (Bogut, Dellevedova, Mills, Baynes etc). NFL and MLB have mild followings, while NHL has next to no presence here. Luckily 99% of the NBA support is very shallow, as we don't get games on free-to-air TV and it's not well publicised on pay-TV. Hopefully it dies off soon, just the latest trend.

    The domestic league (NBL) has reasonable success on par with our soccer league, vast majority are white players with some imports (who are obviously massively hyped up).

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