The Lockout

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Howdy Don!


I CONCUR! The Cup Playoffs have been universally excellent throughout the years, even during the dead-puck era. I miss them, too. There's a hollow ring this Spring with no NHL, just baseball and the ever-disgusting NBA.


This just in: The NBA wants to go on strike. Please, please, please, do go on strike, NBA! Destroy yourselves so the NHL can reign supreme. This past week, Maggot Bettman and Fuhrer Goodenow were meeting in earnest, along with all their henchman. Could an NHL agreement be in the works?


Naaaahh.
 

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As long as the Suns win the title, I could care less what happens after that to basketball.
 

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Well, the Suns or the Spurs.
 

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Howdy Colonel Reb! I just love that Confederate graphic of yours. Is that the Second Confederate? I have the Stars and Bars and Battle Flag proudly posted in my "study." I miss the old Georgia Flag, and just love seeing the Mississippi flag waving.


Oh goodness, this is the NHL / NBA post .... back on topic.


I saw a few moments of the Nash-monster dribbling away for his Suns today. I wish the guy well. But for the rest of the NBA --- "Nitwits Behaving Arrogantly" -- I have zero interest.


Bring back my NHL!


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Realgeorge, is that your real name? I've noticed you put Yuri Dmitriyevitch on the end of your posts, I often wonder the significance.
 

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I also miss the Stanley Cup playoffs very much. What is truly amazing
about this, other than a professional sport missing an entire
season of play, is how the sports media is just totally ignoring this
major story. This is unprecedented in the history of sports, but you'd
never know it happened if you watch the lame, wannabe comedians on
ESPN. Just watch how differently the media treats the threat of an NBA
strike. If there looks to be any chance of the NBA cancelling a season,
you will see lots of concerned looks on those usually smirking faces,
and grave discussions of how terrible this would be for everyone. But
the NHL- hey, nobody really cares about that, anyhow. At least that's
the message the media sends, on the rare occasion when they mention the
subject.
 

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Well put big gun and I agree with the others that the Stanley Cup playoffs are sorely missed. Hard to say if media is ignoring it because of the whiteness factor but it does make one think about it. And is it just me or what in the world is so intiguing about poker on ESPN and other channels? Talk about boring. Good grief. Yet people watch it. No explanation.
 

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Hockey needs to get back out there soon.ESPN is supposed
to pull the plug on their coverage of the NHL.Then what
are they going to do?Get it worked out guys to save the
sport before it is too late.Baseball took a long time
to recover and Hockey might be even worse off.The only
good thing is that Hockey fans are fanatics and will
probably be a little more forgiving.
 

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Hello Sunshine, IceSpeed2, White Lightning ...


The Hockey Gods are tantalizing us again ... The two sides supposedly approach an agreement, this 26th day of June 2005. Many of us sure hope this is the truth. Ol' Jagr said two weeks ago that the players overplayed their poker hand, and will get a lousy deal. Well that's just tough.


We've been jilted and disappointed so many times by the Hockey Gods that we dare not get our hopes too high. Let's hope the damned fools agree by 01 August. As usual I transmit this message to my favorite goofs, the NHL players:


NHL Players: You are dumb as a box of rocks!


Sunshine, IceSpeed2, White Lightning ... hope to talk to you guys again real soon, with a brand new NHL, with broadcasts on .... USA Network !!
 

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Hockey will be back next year the Great One said so himself.
 

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Real George, you're right about the idiocy of the players, at least some of them, with Jeremy Roenick being Exhibit A. I usually like it when white athletes dare to have personalities outside of the mold constructed for them by the Caste System, but all I could do was shake my head after reading this. I guess we're supposed to believe Roenick and Co. are returning to the ice purely for love of the sportrather thanpursuing other professions.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2095862
 

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Hello Don! Happy Fourth! Hope it's nice and crisp up in Allison Park


I should have warned you about Jeremy Roenick. The young lad is in a class by himself, the Barry Bonds of the NHL. Indeed one of the great white meatheads in all of professional sports.


Today's talk (01 July) is all about the NHL being "very close" to a collective bargaining agreement. Let's hope so. I've been disappointed before so I'll believe it when MSNBC says it's really so. As for my mantra: The NHL Players are dumber than a box of rocks --Jeremy Roenick is the very poster-child of the mantra. Many NHLers are intelligent and alert, but were cowed into this strike by clever egging-on by their agents and communist union. I guess more "naive" than "dumb", but they sure have been STUPID!


Jeremy would be wise to continue his on-ice career with a full face shield to protect him from tomatoes hurled by fans who detest the little windbag.


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Jeremy quote : "We don't want you at the rink, we don't want you in the stadium, we don't want you to watch hockey,"


That's a fine statement to make considering just about everybody has already been doing that! As Yogi would say, " They're staying away in droves." Even before the strike how many ticket buying fans were there?
 

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<DIV =storydate>Are we closing in on a deal?
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<DIV =storydate>God Bless 'em, the NHL and the Players Union are meeting again, this for the seventy-ninth time. Count 'em, 79 meetings over 300 days, to arrive at the conclusion that the players are overpaid and a salary cap should be invoked. Profound! But let's remember that every little Khazar lawyer and parasitic agent connected to the NHL wants to get his cut, hence the amazingly long "negotiations." So wonderful that the NHL twice this week has denied that any "agreement in principle" has been reached. Can't jump the gun now, can we.
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<DIV =storydate>Ah, the stinkingly long and exhausting process. Perhaps next Wednesday they'll announce an agreement. The prospects for a more open game are reassuring. Adjustments in the rules and equipment to improve game flow and facilitate scoring ... hmmm, revolutionary thinking there! What they refused to consider is increasing the ice dimensions by 10% ... but alas that would require a few less seats for paying company executives, can't have that either.
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<DIV =storydate>Gents, sign the damned agreement now and let's play hockey. And you NHL players, you're still dumber than a box of rocks.
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<DIV =storydate>Yuri
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<DIV =storydate>July 9, 2005

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NEW YORK (CP) - The NHL and NHL Players' Association will continue talks Sunday as they move closer to completing a new collective bargaining agreement. They met Saturday for the sixth straight day in New York and a deal could be announced as early as Monday. The two sides have met 79 times overall - over nine consecutive weeks - since commissioner Gary Bettman cancelled the 2004-05 season Feb. 16. Bettman has summoned the NHL's executive committee to New York for an update Monday, something he has done routinely during the lockout. ©The Canadian Press 2005
 

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Oh! and this lovely little tidbit from the NHL players, a forward on the Los Angeles Kings ...
<DIV =storyline>Poor little NHL players, you were brainwashed by your lovely union "leader" Mr. Goodenow. Brainwashed, how shocking!! Alas, young Jedi, you give yourself far too much credit. You have no brain to be washed. Only a collection of rocks ... to be exploited by NWO financial weasels all about your industry.
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<DIV =storyline>And you "underestimated how rich the owners were."
<DIV =storyline>Bwahahahahahaha!!! Note to NHL execs: Perform an IQ check on your new recruits to see if you can find any smarter than the current crop of idiots skating around the league.
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<DIV =storyline>Los Angeles Kings forward hammers NHLPA, Goodenow for lost season
<DIV =storyline>July 9, 2005 LOS ANGELES (CP) - Forward Sean Avery of the Los Angeles Kings has hammered his union leaders for "wasting" a year only to accept a salary cap.
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"We burned a year for nothing," Avery was quoted in Wednesday's edition of the Los Angeles Times. "We didn't win anything. We didn't prove anything. We didn't get anything. We wasted an entire season." Avery, known as a pest on the ice, said he was particulary angry with NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow.


"I am furious at Bob," Avery said. "Bob thought he was bigger than he was. Bob brainwashed players like me." Avery said most of the players did not know what was going on during the talks and did not know the "real story." "We underestimated how rich the owners were," he said. "Nobody thought they would be willing to burn a season."


The union was quick to respond Wednesday.


"Whenever a tentative agreement is reached, the NHLPA will have meetings where all players will be invited to attend and every player's questions will be answered by Bob and the members of the executive committee prior to a ratification vote by the full membership taking place," NHLPA spokesman Jonathan Weatherdon said in a statement. "The proposed agreement and everything that has occurred will be reviewed in great detail. Throughout these negotiations players have received and had more access to information than ever before.


"Given the complexities of all the CBA issues, we will not respond to media speculation and other commentary, prior to the terms of any new agreement being released and the upcoming player meetings."
<DIV =storycredit align=center>©The Canadian Press 2005
 

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I'm just happy there is hockey again. Go Black Hawks!!
 

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So Many delicious ironies from the end of the Lockout


First and foremost: As I have said a bunch of times, the NHL players are dumber than a box of rocks. The CBA settlement proves that this is true. The players went to war with NHL Owners, hired a NWO-insider to lead their union, and -- Surprise! -- he fleeced them to the max. How could things have gone any worse? You lost a year of salary. You absorbed a 25% salary slash. You got "capped" which is the equivalent of a government or corporate "Pay Scale" arrangement, always hugely in management's favor. And you delivered Jeremy Roenick as your spokesman to tell the fans to Go To the Devil. Not a disaster, a catastrophe. No amount of shame would be sufficient, you puck-headed boobs. An indignant goaltender last week bitterly lamented that Goodenow "brainwashed" the players. Wrong. He merely evaluated you, correctly, as 700 idiots to be swindled. No need for a brainwashing, you had no brains to start with.


Second: The NHL owners were nearly as stupid to appoint Gary the Eel Bettman, another well-connected NeoCon shark, to run their show in the early 1990s. He fleeced the NHL owners big-time, gruesomely overexpanding the league, and allowing NHL general managers to slow the game to a crawl. A perfect recipe for a huge salary bidding war! And it came to pass exactly that way. No Tears for the owners, you maggots. You hired the Eel and he brought you to ruin. Where there were twenty-or-so prosperous teams in 1990 with a correctly-sized player talent pool, by 2002 there were thirty teams desparately scratching to break even, with a huge premium on talented players. The new CBA, which completely and utterly defeats the NHLPA, may be able to right your ship.


Third: But woe to you anyway, you greedy owners. Now you are saddled with the same Communist system of the NFL. The Cap!! Now all teams are infected with "parity", unable pull away from the pack with any sort of financial initiative. No more superstar-laden teams, but a grey mish-mash of pablum just like the NFL. The bidding wars now will be over coaches and television contracts


And fourth: The irony of ESPN. So .... ESPN doesn't think the NHL is worthy of their suzerainty. So be it. The NHL had its chance to get in good with ESPN and they blew it. In return ESPN has made the politically correct decision to diss the Lily White Soo-premacist National Hockey League and teach them a lesson, perhaps even dealing a death blow. I say -- not so fast, ESPN. The white hockey fan is more dedicated and fanatic than any other. At least as loyal as longtime baseball fans. The hockey fan base never left ... Believe it! It's you, ESPN, who has deserted the hockey fan. Other networks are lining up to replace you, and I say good riddance. Perhaps SPIKE TV or USA Network or another will win the NHL television contract, and they will be HAPPY to have it and broadcast the finest spectator sport in the world. Perhaps driving the NHL's viewing ratings to impressive new heights in a few years. Personally I'd like to see a new network take over the NHL contract and promote the NHL, not just Jarome Iginla (highly overrated, you bet)


Tuesday19 July should see the NHLPA membership ratify the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Then watch the sparks fly as the thirty teams launch into a frenzy of Free-agent signings. It will be exciting and refreshing. Bring on the NHL!


[Hey! Howdy JoeTheThrow and BearArms! hope to talk hockey with you some more as the new year pans out]


Next installment: I'll bash the NHL-bashers of the mainstream media. Their gloom-and-doom forecast will be shown to be folly


Yuri DmitriyevitchEdited by: Realgeorge
 

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The players apparently didn't learn much from their experience with Alan Eagleson. The long-time head of the players union, Eaglesonwas indicted in 1992 by a U.S. federal grand jury on 32 counts of racketeering, fraud and embezzlement while head of the NHLPA.


Gary Bettman's a smarmy, totally uncharismatic snake. A lot of the owners seem dedicated to preventing the NHL from moving forward by allowing season after season of clutch and grab instead of opening up the ice. Now, they may overcompensate by instituting gimmicks like overtime shootouts.


TheNHL has made it easy for the media to ignore and belittle it. Let's hope there's enough honest people involved and enough enlightened self-interest to allow the greatness of the sport to now take center stage.
 

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Hockey will be just fine. It's a great game no matter the small rule changes. Screw ESPN, someone will carry the games. There are so many stations hard up for programming that someone will grab the NHL. I live in a hockey hotbed and people watch a lot of hockey here so I know some station will carry it. Also the local team has all games on TV no matter what ESPN does.
 

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Hockey will survive, because they have the most loyal fans of any sport, fans who truly love the game, and who are willing to ignore an idiot like Roenick. God, could there be a more clueless idiot in any sport than this guy? Sheesh.
 

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PLAYERS RATIFY AGREEMENT


http://www.canada.com/sports/hockey/story.html?id=caabdd79-c f4f-44f5-ad5c-24bb15e492dd


I've been bashing the players since the beginning of the strike ... Maybe I've been unfair in one aspect: The players are indeed dumber than rocks, but not much more so than seven-eighths of the American adult populace, who think that all is well and their happy little existences are not clouded by any major unseen power pulling the strings in secret.


The statements from a few players indicates massive ignorance of the real state of world affairs, certainly of practical economics,and the dominance of nearly everything by the denizens of the New World Order. Ken Klee, who was smart enough to leave the Washington hockey club and join the Toronto Maple Leafs, has this to say:


"If we look at what we had and what we have now, are you disappointed some? Sure," he said of the league's labour landscape. "I think it's a deal that gives the owners and players a chance to grow the game and make it profitable for both sides."


Not bad for a hockey player. But of concern is the following quote from a fairly well-to-do player:


"I don't like the rollback, no question," said Columbus player rep Todd Marchant, whose salary will be $2.47 million US next season instead of $3.25 million. "No one's happy about that but it's something we had to do."


The "something we had to do" part is a wishful thinking exercise. It really means, "I have no idea what we should have done, or why we were fleeced so badly."


So the players have folded, the NHL leaders will gloat tomorrow, and by Monday morning the crush to sign Free Agents and fill rosters will begin in earnest. Perhaps the game will right itself and become the firewagon excitement it was in the 1980s.


Drop the Puck!


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Real George and Don etc make very good points. I am less harsh on the players. Lets face it they had money to lose. And most hockey players are down to earth guys compared to say MLB players and NBA players..The owners are fat cats no matter what.In the july 25th SI Michael Farber correctly puts a lot of theblame on the owners who made the game smaller and almost communist. That will not allow for growth. We have to hope either ESPN, USA or even Spike TV creates a nice package. OLN is an unacceptable alternative since it is not available on basic cable in a lot of areas. If OLN gets the TV rightsit will be a terrible thing. As for Bettman? A human disgrace. Now the Sidney Crosby watch is on. The kid is a stud.
 

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On to the Recovery!


The last remaining White-man's sport in North America is back in business! Let's celebrate, while we can. And may discussions about the NHL's Collective Bargaining Agreementcontinue under the topic "The Recovery". It will be good to retire the sad "Lockout" posting column


Cheers, Yuri
 
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