The 29 White Heavyweight Champions

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  1. Charles Martel

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    Who do you consider to be the best of these 29 heavyweights?

    Alexander Povetkin
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Vitali Klitschko
    Nikolai Valuev
    Sultan Ibragimov
    Ruslan Chagaev
    Oleg Maskaev
    Siarhei Liakhovich
    Corrie Sanders
    Tommy Morrison
    Francesco Damiani
    Gerrie Coetzee
    Ingemar Johansson
    Rocky Marciano
    Lee Savold
    James J. Braddock
    Max Baer
    Primo Carnera
    Jack Sharkey
    Max Schmeling
    Gene Tunney
    Jack Dempsey
    Jess Willard
    Tommy Burns
    James J. Jeffries
    Marvin Hart
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    James J. Corbett
    John L. Sullivan
     
  2. Old Scratch

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    Klitschko brothers, the best of all time, period. I lean towards Vitali for his incredible chin. Gene Tunney was great but he could hardly be considered a HW by today's standards.
     
  3. Westside

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    The Vitali circa 2003-2004 would beat all the fighters on this list and all of the negro heavyweight champs throughout time.

    His only draw back will be his limited time at the absolute top. This would include taking a back seat to his younger brother Wlad who is the reigning champion since 2006. Going on 7 years currently.
     
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    Marciano.., going away.

    the greatest boxer in history (imo)
     
  5. whiteathlete33

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    You may be right however he would have no chance against a either Klitschko brother or even many of the heayvweights today.
     
  6. werewolf

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    No, the Klitschkos are. Marciano would be the cruiserweight champ today.

    The tragic Corrie Sanders - I think he had the potential to be the best of them all, but he hated training. The one time he really got himself into top condition was vs. Wlad.
     
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    Sanders was a beast when in top form. I'd say Ibragimov is the best of the smaller heavyweight though.
     
  8. The Hock

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    The two Klitschos in a class by themselves. Vitali has the edge because of his incredible chin.

    Jerry Quarry could beat a lot of guys on this list.
     
  9. white is right

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    Wlad is the greatest in accomplishments but Vitali is the greatest in terms of a tournament of past champions. Sanders could be a wild card and so could Tommy Morrison if he connected. I'm afraid that Dempsey, Marciano, Tunney and other greats would be too small to trouble either brother and probably not the 2nd tier of modern fighters like Sanders or Morrison. I would love to see what Jefferies could do in the modern era as he had modern era size and Nate Fleischer rated him the 2nd best heavyweight ever.
     
  10. werewolf

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    Timur Ibragamov? Why would you say that?
     
  11. Average American

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    W.Klitschko lost to Ross Purrity :pound:

    here's the list of all the professional fights that Marciano lost:
     
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    Not Timor Ibragimov. Sultan Ibragimov.
     
  13. The Hock

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    Too bad Sultan Ibragimov pretty much gave up boxing after losing to Vlad. He could have done some more damage among the other heavies.

    His cousin Timid Imbackinoff sucks though.
     
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    Yeah, the Sultan retired from boxing over five years ago after Wlad beat him. He had been undefeated up until then.
     
  15. Charles Martel

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    I agree - Sultan Ibragimov was very underrated by the mainstream boxing media and by most fans.
     
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    Mike Tyson wanted to be in the corner of Sultan Ibrag. in his fight vs. Dr K but the Arizona Parole board wouldn't let him go. He wanted to be there because both he and Sultan are Moslems. The controlled US media didn't report this because they are simultaneously in the business of a. Deifying Negroes, and b. Demonizing Moslems.
     
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    Awesome short video of Jack Dempsey in color.

     
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    Vitali was the best heavyweight ever, hands down. He would absolutely obliterate guys like Ali, Holmes, and Tyson. Not only was he huge but his skills were the best ever for such a large guy and he might have the best chin in boxing history.
     
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    Yes, Vitali was the best hands down. He won 90% of his fights by KO and never got knocked down. He lost to Lewis because of a bad cut but was still fighting very well when the fight was stopped. Klitschko was winning the fight and had the momentum even though he was bleeding badly, Lewis was tiring rapidly at that point and Vitali probably would have stopped him in the next 2-3 rounds, given what we know of both fighters histories. Lewis didn't want a rematch; he retired immediately after. Vitali had to quit against Byrd because he injured his rotator cuff but he was dominating that fight also.

    Vitali had great size and he knew how to use it. He was a master at using his long arms and legs to keep his distance from his opponent. He had an outstanding jab, a very good hook with either hand, and a very good straight right. He just wore down opponents and no one could ever figure out how to beat him. Some people say Lewis beat him but anyone who knows boxing knows Vitali clearly beat every boxer he fought.
     
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    Cool video, especially the colorization which makes it look more contemporary. But still it was a much different time, when Whites still had heroes to idolize and openly root for, and virtually all Whites whatever their class dressed well.
     

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