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Discussion in 'NFL' started by Deadlift, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. Deadlift

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    I saw the "Fat Black Linemen" thread and it contains the straight truth.


    I'll put a couple of things on the table for now. A few things to ponder.


    1) - 33 year old Willie Anderson is now with the Ravens' and might be a "threat" to "unseat" starting (White) RT Adam Terry.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=0966


    A situation to follow.



    2) - The issue of soon-to-be 33 year old... Orlando Pace.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1232


    His stay in this league is running out fast.

    So, I can see it now... the Rams' drafting Michael Oher, out of Ole Miss, with a very high pick in the '09 Draft. Any friendly wagers?

    Surely, it doesn't take a mystic to figure out that black left tackles are likely going to eventually be replaced with new black left tackles, but does anyone have a different scenario regarding the Rams and the '09 Draft? Maybe they take a different sumo?

    After "reaching for busts" like Carriker (6 tackles against SEA) and Chris Long (7 tackles against SEA), they are unlikely to make that same "mistake" again and they will likely use their high picks on players that have the proper pigment.



    3) - Jonas Jennings. He played his college ball for the Georgia Bulldogs. Have you guys noticed that if someone is black and started on the Georgia O-line, they are practically guaranteed to be drafted in one of the 7 rounds? It's uncanny! If White, he wouldn't even be on a roster. If White, he would be considered "too short" to play OT. If White, he wouldn't have been drafted on the first day (he was picked at the end of the 3rd round in '01), if at all.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2644



    Michigan and Iowa have sent their share of White linemen to the NFL, but the NFL is definitely more "discerning" when they "scout" those afformentioned teams and also BYU, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Boston College, Missouri, etc.

    We can observe how the racial-spoils racket operates. NFL teams often cherry pick the lone black O-line starter from teams like Nebraska, Notre Dame, Stanford and Boston College. This is another side of the same Caste coin of NFL operation. So, let me get this straight, the O-line coach can "mold" the lone black lineman into an "NFL-caliber" player but... almost all the rest of the Whites that received the same coaching at these storied college programs are rumbling-stumbling-bumbling fools? If the O-line was strong and White-dominated, the Whites had to have contributed something toward that effort - right?

    You also have black-dominated lines that start 1 or 2 Whites, and the situation with the NFL is much the same. If this isn't more evidence of the NFL's racial agenda, what we call the Caste System, then what is??

    Frankly, there's no other explanation....
     
  2. PhillyBirds

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    Deadlift, you can always take solace in the fact that these teams that hoard sumos will be, for the most part, perennial bottom-feeders in the NFL. Small solace, but some teams stick to the proven formula of white offensive linemen. These teams are usually some of the better teams in the league.

    White offensive linemen have long been stalwart opponents of the Caste System and my guess is that they will continue to play at a high level. I too have noticed this turn towards flat-out fat, unathletic blockers but I have faith.

    If teams like the Cardinals, Rams, Ravens, etc. don't realize their folly, then the end product on the field will reflect their decisions. As it has for years.

    The same can be said about teams like the Packers, Colts, Chargers and Giants. Good teams? Mostly. What do they have in common? TRULY athletic and intelligent blockers. Who just so happen to be mostly white.

    J.B. Cash has written quite eloquently on this topic.
    A Whiter Shade of WinnerEdited by: PhillyBirds
     
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    What about the Cowboys? They have arguably the best offensive line right now overall and are easily the best run blocking team. They AVERAGE 323 up front!
     
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    Like you said, arguably. They really floundered against the Eagles, who held Marion Barber to 30 rushing yards. Granted, they do a good job of protecting Romo for the most part, but I adamantly disagree with your run-blocking assertion. Against a good defense, they struggled.
     
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    Well one game isn't indicative of a team.
     
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    I'm smelling a troll. I wish there was a emoticon for that!
     
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    Stating a fact is a basis for trolldom? Did I say anything about the cowboys offensive lines race? I said they average 323 pounds and they are good at what they do.
     
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    I have seen all of your posts so far and that's what I based the above post on. I will engage you in discussion no further.
     
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    Fine, if thats how you deal with things.
     
  10. white is right

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    If in theory a large Euro country such as Germany or Russia took up football, since Nordics and Slavs are statistically stronger than Negroids they would dominate at the point of attack on both sides of the line. Once you control the line you control the game. Even if you argue the home run ability of the Negroid tailbacks, if you have no holes to run to your going nowhere. Plus I think a team like this could employ a successful Woody Hayes like approach to ball control and use a Csonka type back and control clock. Make the rules pre-78' and it could be a blowout.
     
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    What rule changes? Do you mean the db's cant touch wideouts downfield or others?
     
  12. white is right

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    Yes it fundamentally altered football. Made it less rugby like.
     
  13. Don Wassall

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    I thinkthis isthe same clown from several weeks ago who said he was going to go eat dinner before responding to our points and then never returned!


    Deadlift, great post. The intent is there to make the offensive line as black as defense has become. Blacks at about 90 percent of every position seems to be the goal. Even at quarterback they'll keep coming back after periodically retrenching.


    The point about how just the one black on a college line gets drafted (and then wildly overpraised once he's in the NFL) is a good one. Fans have nothing to go by when talking about or comparing offensive linemen other than what the announcers say as very few are trained to watch anything but the quarterback. That's why it's important that a fair amount of teams have not yet gone the sumo route.
     
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  15. Jimmy Chitwood

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    the hyperbole surrounding the black sumos is ridiculous. take, for instance, terrence cody from the University of Alabama. this 6-5, 365-pound tub o' lard is said to be a "phenomenal afflete" of course, but is really nothing more than a gigantic pile of chocolate pudding. see for yourself:

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    and here you can see his "explosive afleticism" on the field with a fellow black sumo...
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    wow! that must be at least an 8-inch vertical and a 62-inch waistline. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    last week, he went up against Jonathan Luigs, seen below manhandling another overrated black sumo last season, Glen Dorsey.
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    Luigs, who won the Rimington Trophy last year as the nation's best center, has never been called "athletic," yet somehow completely dominated Cody, having more pancakes in the game than cody can stomach at an all-night cram session at IHOP. [​IMG] in fact, cody had 1 assisted tackle in the game while Luigs was blocking him (and 1 solo tackle when lined up over a guard). it was probably the only match-up the Razorbacks prevailed in during the loss.

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    Jonathan Luigs holding the Rimington Trophy. just imagine how good he'd be if he had some "real" talent. [​IMG]
     
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    "MJG" is currently starting at RG for the Philadelphia Eagles. One of my friends was a ballboy for the Eagles and said that Jean-Gilles is the closest thing to a man-gorilla hybrid you could think of.


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    My vision of an NFL-calibur athlete, all right.
     
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    Carson Palmer is one of my favorite players, and thanks to the Bengals' sumo-dominated line and its inability to protect him, Palmer may have a serious elbow injury. From a fantasy site:


    Palmer was inactive on Sunday due to his injured right elbow, despite mid-week sentiments that he'd be ready to play (officially listed as questionable on Friday). Here is an exchange with a Cincinnati reporter (Paul Daugherty) regarding Palmer's elbow as reported on Monday: "Did the MRI show anything scary?"


    Palmer: "I'm not going to comment on everything."


    "Do you think it's long term?"


    Palmer, after a pause: "I hope not." Stay tuned later in the week, folks. Palmer's elbow will be scrutinized carefully.


    You should know that there are lots of rumors floating around that Palmer has a serious elbow issue and could miss significant time. Season ending surgery is one rumor that's floating. But there were also lots of rumors that Peyton Manning would never see the field this year so be careful. Right now, what we have above is the only verified information we have and all we can go on. But clearly, this is a worrisome issue not just for Palmer but for the Bengals passing game.
     
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    I didn't follow the NFL too much 10 years ago but I could swear there were more white linemen in the mid to late 90's.By more I mean about 10 to 15 percent more than there are now. Every year it seems the number of sumos gets slightly higher.
    What's funny here is that even if you look on Rivals most of the top linemen are white. So it is a little different as opposed to wr and rb where you see almost no white talent on Rivals. The sumos must show their incredible athletic ability in college and that's why they get drafted.
     
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    You are right! For Rivals '09 Offensive Tackle rankings, 18 of the top 30 are White. Whites are still underrepresented in that ranking, but it is still better than most of their other rankings.
     
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    I didn't check for myself Deadlift, but I thought it was higher. 18 out of 30 is only 60 percent.There is no way that is a fair rating system. Especially for linemen, given white upper body strength, it should be 25 out of 30.
     
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    18 of the 30 "best" high school OT's are White. A 19th player is mestizo and a 20th appears to be a Caucasian middle easterner.


    http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/quicklist.asp?School=&S port=1&DPosition=14&Position=2&Year=2009&qs=1


    I just checked the OG rankings and there are only 11 high school Whites in their top 30! Oy!

    Quite a few White guards are going to play college ball for an FBS team, but I'm just commenting on their "top 30" that are from high school.
     
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    11 out of 30. LOL. That's just ridiculous. I imagine in 10 years 20 of the top 30 quarterbacks on Rivals will be black.
     
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    Stacy Andrews

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    A disgrace, even in today's disgrace-filled NFL. Today's sumos make Reggie White look skinny in comparison.

    Will the media continue to claim that these 400 pounders are examples of "black supremacy" -- EVEN as they continue to perish in droves, "prematurely" of course; "before their time" will be the standard line of the media. AS IF these fat-ass blobs look remotely healthy!

    But the media continues to praise incredibly weak and out-of-shape sumos like Alabama's 365 pound "Mount Cody" (as the media referred to him as during the Alabama/Georgia game). He is the "specimen" that Jimmy Chitwood posted about in this thread.

    You know what... a White true freshman for Georgia, Ben Jones, more than held his own against this overrated tub of lard. Ben had great balance and impressive lower-body strength! Strength is strength. Size doesn't automatically equal strength.

    I can only conclude that the media has a "love affair" with these black sumos because they think this is another viable avenue to push their black supremacy agenda. I'm ashamed that even 1 White can believe this type of ridiculous and farcical propaganda. I do, however, think that this "sumo experiment" is likely to backfire in due time. Think of all the liability especially for College programs. They'll learn that there is nothing "cool" about bringing unhealthy blobs onto their athletic programs. No "upside" and only blame when things go awry.

    The media-love for these sumos is nothing short of sick and twisted! If sumos are "ebony titans" - then, my gosh, I'm the almighty Zeus or the strikingly handsome and powerful Thor!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    He would likely get torched in Worlds Strongest Man competition. People need to see things like that. Represent yo peeps, Max! Give WSM a try!
     

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