SI talks to Redick and Morrison

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Coming Of Age (or Not) In The Nba

Three years ago they turned the college season into their personal stage as they waged a dizzying game of can-you-top-this? These days former lottery picks J.J. Redick and Adam Morrison are battling just to get on the floor
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THE STANDARD-ISSUE NBA warmups are made of a polyester material that wicks sweat off the body. They're Adidas brand, manufactured in China and designed for comfort and durability. If Adidas needs an athlete's testimonial, the company could do worse than approach Charlotte Bobcats forward Adam Morrison or Orlando Magic guard J.J. Redick. To their dismay, both players have spent vast amounts of time wearing the apparel, sometimes going entire games without molting their sweats. ¶ You remember Redick and Morrison, right? Together they hijacked the 2005--06 college basketball season, not only captivating fans with their velveteen shooting and abundant scoring but also polarizing them with their distinctive styles and colorful personalities. Redick was the cold-blooded gunner from Duke with limitless range and comparably vast self-belief. Morrison was the free spirit from Gonzaga, whose ironic mustaches and hairstyles fit with his rambling, idiosyncratic game.

Together, RedMo, as SI once called them, played a transcontinental game of can-you-top-this? that season. As Gonzaga coach Mark Few put it at the time, "It's nothing short of what Bird and Magic did for college basketball [in 1978--79]." One night Morrison was banking in a game-winning three-pointer against Oklahoma State. Another night Redick was lighting up Wake Forest for 32 points. There was a certain gilt by association, as it were, and it was fueled by a friendly rivalry. After games Redick and Morrison would repair to their respective off-campus apartments, spark up the Xbox and engage in marathon sessions of Halo 2. The next morning they'd text each other with trash-talking recaps.

Fittingly, Morrison and Redick were named the Co--Players of the Year by the U.S. Basketball Writers Association. That summer they were both lottery picks in the NBA draft. At the league's rookie orientation program, according to an NBA executive, a speaker asked players whether they envisioned scoring prolifically in their first season. Among a group that included Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay, only Morrison and Redick raised their hands.

MICHAEL JORDAN has effectively demonstrated that possessing basketball talent and assessing basketball talent are altogether different things. As a Washington Wizards executive, Jordan spent the No. 1 choice in the 2001 draft on Kwame Brown, who's now playing for his fourth team; hired unproven coach Leonard Hamilton, who lasted just one season; and traded guard Richard Hamilton, who became an All-Star with the Detroit Pistons. In his first personnel move as the Bobcats' head of basketball operations, Jordan selected Morrison with the third pick in 2006.

Morrison began his career embedded in Charlotte's rotation. Two months into the season, he turned in a 30-point game; it stands as his career high. As Morrison's liabilities on defense were made apparent, his minutes tailed off, though he still averaged a respectable 11.8 points for his rookie season.

In October 2007 Morrison landed awkwardly in a preseason game and tore his left ACL, resulting in surgery that caused him to miss the entire season. When he returned last fall, the Bobcats had a new coach, Larry Brown, and Morrison was a forgotten man. Through Sunday he had averaged just 4.9 points in 15.3 minutes, playingâ€â€or not playingâ€â€behind Raja Bell and Matt Carroll, neither of whom was drafted out of college. (Even in the first game after Carroll was dealt to the Dallas Mavericks last Friday for center DeSagana Diop, Morrison played only seven minutes and scored one point.) "I feel like I'm the same player I was in college, but it's much different playing 38 minutes and playing short minutes," he says. "It affects your mentality."

Specifically, Morrison is beset by a vicious cycle common to bench players: The less they play, the less confidence they have; the less confidence they have, the less they play. Such a dynamic scorer in college, the 6'8" Morrison has been reduced to a spot-up shooter. Typically, he stations himself on the wing and waits for a pass from a teammate who's drawn the defense. Yet even on the occasions when the ball arrives, Morrison often defers. In a game against the New York Knicks last month he missed all three shots he attempted, including an air ball. Brown recalls that in hopes of breaking Morrison's slump, he ran plays specifically for him. "[Adam] didn't even touch the ball," Brown complained to reporters. "He just doesn't have a lot of confidence in himself. He has the ability to score but not if he doesn't look for his shot."

In fairness the 24-year-old Morrison is returning from a major knee injury, and, for all intents, is only in his second season. He claims to be fully recovered, but Brown isn't so sure. "I watch Adam, and when he gets tired, he rarely jumps off that leg, taking runners, not being nearly as explosive."

And therein lies another issue. Brown, 68 years old and unmistakably old school, tends to build his teams on a foundation of speed, length and defenseâ€â€not exactly Morrison's defining traits. Brown also tends to be partial to mature players; when he describes Morrison as "a good, goofy kid," it comes across as backhanded praise. "Adam Morrison," says one Western Conference executive, "is not a Larry Brown kind of player, not at all." Bell, a well-liked veteran who joined Charlotte from Phoenix last month but has already taken on a mentoring role with Morrison, sounds a similar theme. "A guy like Adam with a variety of shots, it will take opportunity and timing," he says. "He needs someone to trust him to do it night in, night out. Once he gets opportunity, we'll see that player who had that swagger about him at Gonzaga."

Reticent and uneasy, Morrison is philosophical about his situation. The losing, he says, is more difficult than any personal shortcomings. (At week's end the 16--24 Bobcats had more defeats this season than Morrison endured during four years at Gonzaga.) Discussing his struggles is, understandably, not a favorite conversation topic. Though slump-shouldered and looking downward, he seeks no sympathy. "The way I look at it, I couldn't ask for anything more out of life," he says. "The money? The lifestyle? In this economy with people getting laid off? Everyone in this league is blessed. I can't get too down."

Redick has not been so equivocal about his fate. In his first two seasons Redick played (sparingly, at that) in just 76 games. Like Morrison he struggled to stay in front of his man on defense. And while he lacks classic point guard skills, at a generous listing of 6'4", he's undersized for a shooting guard. When he entered games, it came with an unspoken edict: Knock down jumpers or you're coming out. He did not suppress his frustration. On more than one occasion Redick, through his agent, Arn Tellem, made it clear that he wanted to be traded. The Magic front office demurred.

At his season-ending exit interview last May, Redick pointedly asked coach Stan Van Gundy and general manager Otis Smith where he stood. He recalls being told the franchise hadn't given up on him and there was a 95% chance he'd be back. "That was some peace of mind," he says, "and I just told myself I was going to try to enjoy being part of such a good team." Orlando was 33--8 through Sunday, a bona fide contender. And though last off-season the Magic drafted Courtney Lee and signed free agent Mickael Pietrus, both shooting guards, Redick has cracked the rotation recently. On Jan. 13, when Orlando set the NBA record with 23 three-pointers in a game, Redick had 15 points in 26 minutes of action, part of a four-game run of double-digit output. "He's in a good rhythm offensively," says Van Gundy. "Some matchups are always going to be tough for him, but he doesn't hurt us on the defensive end."

Still, Redick's name will surface as the Feb. 19 trade deadline nearsâ€â€he's already been rumored to go to Phoenix for forward Grant Hill. Nothing if not a realist, the 24-year-old has come to expect anything. "I've started games, then I've been totally out of the rotation, then I've been back in," Redick says. "I don't know if you ever get conditioned to it, but you accept it, and just try to be a good teammate."

HOW DID this happen? How did a pair of college A-listers fall so short of expectations? Perhaps the attention that came with their scoring exploits and teams' successes led some to overestimate their skills. It also bears mention that the 2006 draft was notably weak, as it was the first year that players were forbidden from jumping directly from high school to the NBA. Had, say, Portland center Greg Oden or Oklahoma City swingman Kevin Durant been allowed to enter the league that year, the draft positions of Morrison and Redick surely would have dropped, making their modest production a bit less glaring.

But maybe Morrison and Redick simply stand as twin studies in just how different the college game is from the NBA. Defenders are faster and longerâ€â€hell, the 6'9" Durant often covers guards. More players can create their own shots. And there's a huge difference between playing in an offense built around you and trying to make an impact as the fourth or fifth option. "It can be humbling," says Redick, "but sometimes it can be good to get punched in the mouth and try to get back up. Me, I needed to be humbled."

Morrison and Redick say they've fallen out of touch with each other. They still greet each other warmly when their teams meet. But there are no more barrages of texts, no more Halo sessions during the infomercial hours. ("I haven't played Halo in years," says Redick.) The parallels, though, keep coming. One last one: They both look decidedly different from their college days. Apart from adding three more tattoos, Redick has packed a good 10 pounds of muscle to his frame with off-season weight training. As for Morrison, his look, once defined by a mop top and "porn-stache," now features a buzz cut and an unruly soul patch. Asked what prompted the new look, Morrison shrugs sheepishly. "Different phase, I guess."
 

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That's a sad read, what could and should have been. Too bad that Morrison and Redick didn't choose to up the ante a little bit and talk about the discrimination and stereotyping they face as white players, not that I blame them for not bringing it up.
 

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guest301 said:
That's a sad read, what could and should have been. Too bad that Morrison and Redick didn't choose to up the ante a little bit and talk about the discrimination and stereotyping they face as white players, not that I blame them for not bringing it up.


Do you think they can't get their shot off?

Many black "athletic freaks" are largely jump-shooters in the NBA. It's partially because of the 3-point line and I think because they want to prolong their career. "High-flyers" are more prone to severe and chronic injury and many have had short NBA careers.


Texas Longhorn A.J. Abrams has been described as "explosive" -- but he mainly shoots 3's and has missed a ton of them. And, yet, I think he's on the verge of becoming #1 in 3-pointers made all-time for the Big 12 conference.

Adam Morrison gets 3-shot-attempts in the NBA, but Abrams will get to heave up a ton of them and be proclaimed a "star."

I didn't watch that NBA Draft -- so hearing that Morrison was taken 3rd overall -- I do think that was a reach. The West Coast Conference is not very competitive. If Austin Daye becomes a lottery pick, he'll almost certainly struggle as well.

Michael Beasley played in the Big 12 and has noticeably struggled in the NBA. This guy is not even close to being an athletic freak and his defensive deficiencies were obvious to see when he was at Kansas State. What people need to realize is that Kevin Love would have scored more points in college if it wasn't for the Caste System. Love was on the better team but his scoring numbers were still low at times.

So they both go to the NBA -- and Love has been way more physical and a superior rebounder by leaps-and-bounds over Beasley. Love has a passion that Beasley doesn't. Love appears to be playing better now at this point in the season. If Love gets enough shot-attempts, he COULD have a superior NBA career.
 

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Deadlift said:
guest301 said:
That's a sad read, what could and should have been. Too bad that Morrison and Redick didn't choose to up the ante a little bit and talk about the discrimination and stereotyping they face as white players, not that I blame them for not bringing it up.


Do you think they can't get their shot off?


Yes I think they can both get their shot off whether it's off the dribble or through picks and screens. A average athlete like Reggie Miller made a Hall of Fame career for himself by shooting off screens.
 
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These two are costing current white college stars a ton of money.
 
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That's a sad read, what could and should have been. Too bad that Morrison and Redick didn't choose to up the ante a little bit and talk about the discrimination and stereotyping they face as white players, not that I blame them for not bringing it up.

It has nothing to do with their being white. All of their coaches have said the same thing about them. They're both defensive liabilities.

Black college stars Shawn Respert, Salim Stoudamire, and to a slightly lesser extent, Terry Dehere, were deadly deadly shooters. All three of the crapped out of the NBA for the same reason Adam and JJ faltering.. they were one dimentional players who also had limited defensive ability, and lacked the athleticism and lateral movement to cover NBA-level speed & talent.
 
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These two are costing current white college stars a ton of money.

It's not really even their fault either. They received so much attention because the other stars their age and younger already turned pro.

In 2006, when they were doing their thing:
<ul>[*]Team USA's Carmelo Anthony and Deron Williams would have been seniors like Redick. Carmelo had already won a National Championship, and averaged 27 ppg on 48% shooting in the NBA that year.[*]Team USA's LeBron James and Chris Paul would have been juniors like Morrison. LeBron averaged 31 ppg on 48% shooting in the NBA that year.[*]Team USA's Dwight Howard, in addition to Shaun Livingston, Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, and J.R. Smith would have been sophomores.[*]Andrew Bynum would have been a freshman, and Kevin Durant and Greg Oden were non-draft eligible high school seniors.
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In all likelihood, these guys would have pushed (maybe Adam, but definitely JJ) out of the lottery, and eliminated all of the pressure they had to perform.Edited by: MHale
 

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MHale: You say that all of Redick's coaches have said he is a defensive liability? Did you read the article? Van Gundy stated that Redick does not hurt us on the defensive end.

Redick will succeed if given the right opportunity. He is a pure shooter, but needs a green light. If he only gets a couple shots a game he won't be successful.
 

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It all depends who and what coach their playing for. If they were playing for Mike D'antoni or Don Nelson, they would get a lot of playing time, as well as shot opportunities.

But sadly, they are playing for Negro-loving Larry Brown and Stan Van Gundy respectively.
 
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MHale: You say that all of Redick's coaches have said he is a defensive liability? Did you read the article? Van Gundy stated that Redick does not hurt us on the defensive end.



Redick will succeed if given the right opportunity. He is a pure shooter, but needs a green light. If he only gets a couple shots a game he won't be successful.

He doesn't want to bash his player, destroy his confidence, and ruin his trade value. When JJ's on the floor, it's shocking how much the opponents run up the score per 48 minutes. When he's on the court, the opposition (usually their weaker, second unit) scores 116 points per 48 minutes. When he's off the court, the opposition (usually their starters, better shooters, and players) only score 106. With Bogans, it was the opposite.

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Google +"JJ Redick" and +"defensive liability", and you'll get deluged with hits.
 
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C'mon, facts are no fun for conspiracy theorists!
 

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Mhale: Redick really hasn't been on the court enough to get a perfectly clear picture. From what I hear he has improved significantly according to Van Gundy on the defensive end (he didn't play much D at Duke). But with the way Pietrus has played when he's been healthy and I admit Courtney Lee has played pretty well too; Redick just hasn't gotten a chance.

I personally think Redick should be getting at least as much time as Courtney Lee. J.J was playing just as well in the "mere" last couple weeks when J.J has been getting 15-20 minutes a game and he is the longer tenured player by the Magic.

J.J tested out as more athletic than Michael Redd did at the NBA combine. J.J is no athletic freak by any stretch, but I wouldn't call him a poor athlete. He was in the middle of the pack in 3/4 court sprint for guards and his vertical was "Barely" below average for guards although his standing reach is below average enough to effect him. But J.J is what he is; he's a guy who is mostly a jump shooter with a quick release; he can be a dead-eye shooter. With the talent on the Magic, lanes will open up for him to get his marksman shot off with his quick release.

Morrison on the other hand I would say is more of a defensive liability than Redick. He was already a sub-par defender before his ACL tear. He was going to have to make his mark in the league as a potent scorer who could just outscore his opponents to make up for his defensive deficiency. I want to see him get some more minutes this year and I am not completely writing him off yet, but he is going in the direction of a bust as of now.

Morrison deserves a second chance after an injury like he had; but something tells me he isn't going to turn out as a player; just my feeling from watching him in the NBA. This was after I thought he would be a stud watching him in college.

Analysis: Redick could be a good system player in the right system (a solid starter/ good sixth man). Morrison will not pan out.
 

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Redick and Morrison are both very good system players, what pains me is that they are both playing for the wrong system. They both need a trade.
 

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MHale,

while discussing whether or not Redick and Morrison should have been such high draft picks is a legitimate question to debate, i can't fathom that you'd think they don't belong on some team's regular rotation in today's NBA. am i misunderstanding you?

J.J. Redick's defensive liabilities, such as they are, are no worse than numerous current (Kevin Martin, Jason Richardson, Ray Allen, Anthony Morrow, Michael Redd) and former (Steve Kerr, Reggie Miller, Glen Rice) NBA players all of which got/get substantial minutes. while limited physically, his ability to flat out shoot the basketball is a skill that most NBA teams are sorely lacking.

Morrison, on the other hand, is an above average athlete with much better size than Redick. if his knee is healthy he should be getting substantial minutes, without question. he may never turn into an All-Star like i'd hope, but he is certainly athletic and skilled enough to be a solid contributor in the league for a long time.
 

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Just my opinion, but Morrison has played soft so far in the NBA. His length is fine although he's still pretty thin.

I thought he would turn into a prolific scorer b/c of his instincts, high release on his shot, footwork and amazing hands. But from Morrison's workout numbers at the NBA combine; he did not test out well athletically. I believe he tested at only a 25.5 inch standing jump (bad) and a 30.5 inch two step jump (below average for SFs); which is below average. His straight ahead quickness is solid but he seems soft on D and even on offense and doesn't change direction all that well.

Maybe I'm judging him too quick since he just came off a torn ligament, but he doesn't seem like he has the same killer instinct he had in college from a few games I've watched him in two years ago and this year.

I think Redick could be a Michael Redd type player as far as efficiency although he will probably never "be trusted" to be a teams focal point like Redd. Another guy Redick might compare too is old Jeff Hornacek from the John Stockton days in Utah. Also maybe Quintin Richardson's old role in Phoenix could be J.J's forte. A less streaky John Starks? or how about Allan Houston if you like Knick comparisons?
 

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First of all, discussing the supposed defensive limitations of white players is ridiculous, because white players are not permitted to play defense in today's NBA. All black players are granted the leeway to be "aggressive" on defense. This is code word for "street ball" defense, which allows them to violate the contact rules with impunity. Whites, on the other hand, after years of playing under this cumbersome double standard, have adapted by becoming "soft" on defense. For big white men, this means they stand near the basket and hold both hands straight up over their head, in order to ward off foul calls.

This hardly helps, as every referee in the NBA officiates according to this double standard, and will invariably blow their whistle if they see a white defender in the vicinity of the shooter (especially if he's black, which he usually is). Because the natural defensive aggressiveness was beaten out of these white players in high school, or at least in college, there is probably no way to get them to play tough defensively now. And if they did try to defend the way that EVERY black player defends, they'd foul out very quickly. This "liability on defense" rap is now on page one of the Caste System sop manual, and is used to severely limit the minutes of obviously talented white players like Morrison and Reddick.

The other thing that holds back white scorers like Morrison and Reddick is pretty obvious; the same Caste System doesn't allow any white player, no matter how good they are, to shoot the ball as often as the black "stars" like Koby, Iverson, McGrady, etc. If Dirk Nowitski, Steve Mash, Manu Ginobli or even lesser known players like Wally Szerbiak, shot the ball as often as "A.I." or other truly horrendous black "scorers," they would dominate the league scoring leaders. Nash was always a fantastic shooter, but his general unselfishness, plus the Caste System unofficial rules against it, stopped him from shooting enough to lead the league in scoring. If he had ever taken the number of shots that an "A.I." does every year, he would have averaged 50 points a game easily.

Morrison and Reddick are both scorers; the strongest part of their game is shooting. However, whites are strictly limited in how much they are allowed to shoot, so this makes it difficult for them to make it in the NBA, without becoming a "complete player" (which they can never do, since they aren't permitted to play real defense, either). At this point, I don't know what Morrison or Reddick, or any white player, has to lose by speaking out. Unlike the NFL, every penny in an NBA contract is guaranteed. Thus, Morrison and Reddick should already be set for life financially. Speak out- who knows, maybe some courageous black talking head will support you. We all know that not a single white jock-sniffer will. As a well known international conspirator once said, long ago, you would have nothing to lose but your chains.
 

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It's amazing how defense is defined in the NBA these days. Andres Nocioni caused a lot of commotion among blacks and the NBA itself for his aggressive and tenacious defense. Lately, that aggression has been all but toned down.

I think there are many whites (including Dirk and Nash) who can play really good defense, if they were allowed to like in the 70's and 80's. Sadly that not the case anymore, if Bobby Jones were playing today's NBA, he might always get 3 fouls by halftime.

I've watched games from the 70's and 80's, and there a lot of body contacts, not dirty, just good 'ol manly defense. Those plays would easily pass for a foul today. It's no wonder why guys like Dirk and Nash find it hard to play really good defense.

Chris Paul I bet makes most of his steals with a lot of body contact, a clear sign of double standard there is in the NBA against white players.
 

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good points, bigunreal and j41181.
 

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GreatLakeState said:
C'mon, facts are no fun for conspiracy theorists!

I think bigunreal's post above stuffed your post right back in your face. And if you don't agree with it then why are you here?
 

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TJR, with all due respect regarding Adam Morrison. i disagree with your position regarding Morrison's lack of athleticism being to blame for his lack of playing time.

in his final season (junior year) at Gonzaga, he went head to head with at least 3 teams who had future NBA players guarding Morrison. here's how he performed when being guarded by NBA-level athletes:

Morrison scored 43 in a win against Michigan State, who attempted to guard him with current NBA players Maurice Ager and Shannon Brown. he also had 7 boards and 4 assists.

Morrison scored 34 in a loss against Memphis, who attempted to guard him with current NBA players Rodney Carney, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Shawne Williams, and even future NBAer Robert Dozier. he also had 5 rebounds and 3 assists with only 1 turnover, despite the swarming defense.

Morrison also went head-to-head with one of the bright, young stars of today's NBA (and fellow lottery pick), UConn's Rudy Gay and put up 18 and 5 in a buzzer-beater loss, while holding Gay to 10 and 2. but somehow Gay is a phenom, and Morrison is an after thought?

it just doesn't add up to me. while you may be right that he's lost his mental edge (i don't know him, so i can't speak to that), he certainly has the talent and skill to be at minimum a solid contributor in the NBA.
 

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MHale: Sorry, but your statistical chart does not prove Redick is a defensive liability. It proves that he only played 6% of the available minutes. One can assume these were "garbage time" minutes most likely with Dwight Howard on the bench. Even so, for such a small sample of minutes, there is a 2% difference in opponents field goal percentage. Hardly a significant statistical variance.

Individual defense is primarily judged through the eye of the beholder. As the myth of black athletic supremacy has grown, there is always an assumption that the white player cannot play defense. A good offensive player cannot be stopped one on one by any defender. Therefore, one on one defense is overrated.

I've pointed out in another thread that white players are dominating the rebounding per minutes played statistic. Obviously,white players have the strength, length, quickness, and leaping ability to grab rebounds at a high rate. I'm pretty sure they can play defense as well. Or maybe their hips are too tight.
 
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Mhale: Redick really hasn't been on the court enough to get a perfectly clear picture. From what I hear he has improved significantly according to Van Gundy on the defensive end (he didn't play much D at Duke). But with the way Pietrus has played when he's been healthy and I admit Courtney Lee has played pretty well too; Redick just hasn't gotten a chance.



I personally think Redick should be getting at least as much time as Courtney Lee. J.J was playing just as well in the "mere" last couple weeks when J.J has been getting 15-20 minutes a game and he is the longer tenured player by the Magic.

If the Magic staff felt he could contribute, they'd be playing him more. It's that simple. They don't owe him anything other than his paycheck. They used a lottery pick, and two separate coaching regimes weren't impressed. Had they felt he could handle the rigors of the position, they wouldn't have drafted Courtney Lee, or signed Pietrus.



Morrison on the other hand I would say is more of a defensive liability than Redick. He was already a sub-par defender before his ACL tear. He was going to have to make his mark in the league as a potent scorer who could just outscore his opponents to make up for his defensive deficiency. I want to see him get some more minutes this year and I am not completely writing him off yet, but he is going in the direction of a bust as of now.



Morrison deserves a second chance after an injury like he had; but something tells me he isn't going to turn out as a player; just my feeling from watching him in the NBA. This was after I thought he would be a stud watching him in college.

He was serviceable his first year, and the potential was there. But now that the Bobcats added Boris Diaw and Raja Bell to Wallace and Okafor, they're starting to show sings of life. I think his days are numbered.

It's unfortunate he got that injury so early in his career. Penny Hardaway, Jimmy Jackson, and Grant Hill all had career-altering knee and foot injuries after the signed their huge deals. I'll be shocked if someone picks up a 36% shooting, 4 ppg player once his current deal is up.


Analysis: Redick could be a good system player in the right system (a solid starter/ good sixth man). Morrison will not pan out.

Personally, I think he's overrated, and may have been a product of his system in college. Until his senior year, he was only a 40% shooter.. which sucks in today's watered down NCAA. He got the attention because he was a Dukie, and because Coach K allowed him to live at the 40% line. Like I mentioned before.. Stoudamire and Respert were MUCH better shooters their entire college careers, yet didn't do squat in the league either.

I guess it is possible that if he got a nice long stretch of playing time, the league might be surprised at what he can do. I could be wrong.
 

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MHale said:
If the Magic staff felt he could contribute, they'd be playing him more. It's that simple. They don't owe him anything other than his paycheck. They used a lottery pick, and two separate coaching regimes weren't impressed. Had they felt he could handle the rigors of the position, they wouldn't have drafted Courtney Lee, or signed Pietrus.


If it was only "that simple" there'd be no need for this website. Did you read the posting guidelines? Your only purpose here so far is to bash Redick, and probably other white athletes too.
 
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I've pointed out in another thread that white players are dominating the rebounding per minutes played statistic. Obviously,white players have the strength, length, quickness, and leaping ability to grab rebounds at a high rate. I'm pretty sure they can play defense as well. Or maybe their hips are too tight.

The majority of rebounds (9 of every 10) are grabbed at, or underneath the basket. Positioning is optimal as opposed to leaping ability. Guys in the low paint who don't scored as much, have the time to box out and position themselves.

Blocking shots and steals have always been a more indicative gauge of length, quickness, leaping, and athleticism. While Marcus Camby, Dwight Howard, Samuel Dalembert, and Joakim Noah are ranked 1, 2, 6, and 9 in rebounds per 48 minutes, they ALSO rank 5, 3, 7, and 8 in blocked shots per 48 minutes. When you block that many shots, you alter even more, which greatly solidifies your team's defense.

While Andris Biedrins, Kevin Love, Joel Przybilla, Troy Murphy, David Lee are ranked 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 in rebounds per 48 minutes, they only rank 21, 58, 27, 99, and 111 in blocks per 48 minutes. That's a clear and distinct difference.


As far as steals, any way you filter it, be it by total, per game, or per 48 minutes, it's not even close. You need anticipatory skills and speed, in conjuction with lateral movement.. which ironically are the same exact skillsets you need to play cornerback in the NFL. Of the 46 ballhawks in the league who total 1.85 of more steals per 48 minutes, 42 (91%) of them are black.
 
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