Ruiz v Toney

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speedster said:
Is anybody surprised by this.James Toney allegedly failed a doping test for a banned substance,possibly the anabolic steroid nandrolone.He could be suspended for up to two years and be stripped of his WBA title.It is to laugh.
Lets await the results from the second test Nandralone tests have been known to be faulty. Strange that people here forget that Vitali was banned from the olympics for Roid use
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Kaptain Poop said:
Speedster, I thought Jirov was comfortably ahead in that fight as apparently did most others who saw the fight. He simply choked in the last round. Pugnus, Black Guy, whoever - is James Toney the next great black hope?


Does anybody in their right mind think he could be either of the Klitchskos? Bring him on.
Throwing alot of puches and landing them are two different things like many you where deceived by Jirovs high puch output. Again most of Jirovs punches where blocked.


Jirov comfortably ahead ? Even though he was staggered in some rounds and had a point deduction for low blows .


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Oh I'm sorry Pugnus, I was scoring more than just the last 30 seconds of each round. Since the rest of the world apparently agreed with my viewpoint, it means they must be racist too? You might want to look at the words in the article below "most observers thought toney needed a knockdown to win". It must suck to be on the low end of the bell curve. Next time have some intellect to your arguement - you're boring me.


[url]http://www.boxingtimes.com/analyses/2003/030426toney_jirov.h tml[/url]


James Toney = the next great black hope
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speedster said:
Is anybody surprised by this.James Toney allegedly
failed a doping test for a banned substance,possibly the anabolic
steroid nandrolone.He could be suspended for up to two years and be
stripped of his WBA title.It is to laugh.



No.
 

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The Toney-Ruiz fight has been ruled a "no decision".Toney like Bonds and Sosa need steriods to compete.Toney at 5'9 233lbs of blubber would't last 8 rounds with 6'8 250lbs of muscle like Vitali.Look out for Vladimir Virchis he could be a top notch fighter.If the Russians could eat like blacks in the USA{plenty of food stamps}all you can eat.The Russians/Ukranians would rewrite the record books!!!
 

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Kaptain Poop said:
Oh I'm sorry Pugnus, I was scoring more than just the last 30 seconds of each round. Since the rest of the world apparently agreed with my viewpoint, it means they must be racist too? You might want to look at the words in the article below "most observers thought toney needed a knockdown to win". It must suck to be on the low end of the bell curve. Next time have some intellect to your arguement - you're boring me.


http://www.boxingtimes.com/analyses/2003/030426toney_jirov.h tml


James Toney = the next great black hope
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Rounds are supposed to be scored on EFFECTIVE agression and landing your powershots not THROWING alot of punches and missing them.


Under no circumstances was Jirov comfortably ahead the judges scored this one correctly.
 

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Toney is a fat fart who beat a bum like Ruiz and needed steriods to help and beat an old man in Holyfield.The fight with Jirov was very close and Jirov because of an injury was inactive too long before he fought fatso.Lets have a rematch since fatso thinks Jirov is so easy.
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Pugnus, Even the judges scored it a one-point decision. Meaning that, in fact, he did need a knockdown or a two-point round in the last round to win- even with the one point low-blow deduction. You are the one arguing with how the judges saw the fight as well as how most observers saw the fight. You are a minority in the minority.


Save to say that Toney was probably on the juice when he fought Jirov. Maybe that decision should be turned into a no-decision also.
 

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Three men have gone from middleweight champ to heavyweight champ.Toney,Roy Jones and Bob Fitzsimmions.Toney and Jones both needed steriods to beat a bum like Ruiz.Fitz beat Jim Corbett[Hall of Famer]at 167 lbs and eating cornbeef and cabbage.Give a white guy an honest chance and most will win every time!!!!
 

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Gary said:
Three men have gone from middleweight champ to heavyweight champ.Toney,Roy Jones and Bob Fitzsimmions.Toney and Jones both needed steriods to beat a bum like Ruiz.Fitz beat Jim Corbett[Hall of Famer]at 167 lbs and eating cornbeef and cabbage.Give a white guy an honest chance and most will win every time!!!!
Was RJJ convicted of steroid use in the Ruiz fight ? Yes or No.


And the second test still has'nt come in for Toney.
 

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Was O.J. Simpson convicted of murder?Jones is the media's boy,there not going to let him look bad.He did fall really pretty when knocked out in his last two fights.Vitali could beat Toney and Jones on the same night with 20 minutes rest between fights.Hey pignuts leave before your banned again.
 

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Gary said:
Was O.J. Simpson convicted of murder?Jones is the media's boy,there not going to let him look bad.He did fall really pretty when knocked out in his last two fights.Vitali could beat Toney and Jones on the same night with 20 minutes rest between fights.Hey pignuts leave before your banned again.
Basically Jones is convicted because he is black right ??.


Why was Vitali banned from fighting in the Olympics ?????? you know the answer.
 

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Yes Vitali was banned.That's the point pignuts.Simpson got off the murder charge because Cochran played the race card-same with Jones.Nobody played the race card for Vitali.Now he's the HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!Where is O.J and Jones?We know where Cochran is.So they banned Vitali and Wlad got the GOLD MEDAL
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Gary said:
Yes Vitali was banned.That's the point pignuts.Simpson got off the murder charge because Cochran played the race card-same with Jones.Nobody played the race card for Vitali.Now he's the HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!Where is O.J and Jones?We know where Cochran is.So they banned Vitali and Wlad got the GOLD MEDAL
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What does Jones have to do wth OJ and b.t.w OJ got of because of a dumbass prosection and a dumbass racist cop why the same ideologies like you.


What does Jones have to do with OJ ???


Do you have proof that Jones used Roids in the Ruiz fight yes or no ?
 

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Personally, I dont't think its that big a deal the Jones beat Ruiz
anyway. Ruiz is a mediocre heavyweight in my opinion. If Jones
really wanted to make a mark he should have fought Chrisy Byrd, Tyson,
Lewis or one of the Klitschko's.



Then there would still be only two middleweights to have won a heavyweight belt.
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Hey pignuts did you ever read{or can you read}the guidelines? No curse words.I know your a moron-but at least read about the site before you post on the site.What does O.J have to do with Jones?There both colored boys who the media won't touch.By the way have you considered night school to improve your spelling and writing?
 

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Gary said:
Hey pignuts did you ever read{or can you read}the guidelines? No curse words.I know your a moron-but at least read about the site before you post on the site.What does O.J have to do with Jones?There both colored boys who the media won't touch.By the way have you considered night school to improve your spelling and writing?
Besides their color Jones and OJ have nothing in common. And its they are both colored not There learn how to spell yourself before opening your trap.
 

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Learn how to use periods at the end of a sentence pignuts.There both was correct English-not they both you moron.
 
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