Roy Halladay

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  1. PhillyBirds

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    Roy Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball. The move to the NL has only solidified him as such, and his numbers to this point have not disappointed anyone in the city of Philadelphia. Categories in which Doc currently leads the majors:

    Games started: (6)
    Complete games: (3)
    Shutouts: (2)
    Innings pitched: (49)
    Walks per 9 innings: (0.7)
    Strikeout-to-walk ratio: (9.75:1!)

    EDIT: Doc beat the Cardinals for his seventh win of the year today: 7IP, 2ER, 9K. St. Louis also started seven whites out of eight in the field.


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  2. Don Wassall

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    He's the closest thing to a throwback to when starting pitchers were expected to complete games, which was all of baseball history until 30 or so years ago.
     
  3. Tom Iron

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    Don,

    I'm interested, do you think most of these young men are too frail to throw as much as they used to, or do you think it's just the way they treat the pitchers today?

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  4. Don Wassall

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    Tom, I think the owners believe they are reducing arm problems by having much more "specialization" in pitching, thereby protecting their investments who get paid so much money. I don't know if that's the result or not as I don't notice a lessening of starters with arm injuries. The pitchers who threw tons of innings when I was a kid -- Phil Niekro, Gaylord Perry, Tom Seaver, Don Sutton, Steve Carlton, Wilbur Wood, Nolan Ryanand others -- rarely if ever had arm problems.
     
  5. Tom Iron

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    Don, Yeah, just a tad before those guys were Robin Roberts (just died yesterday), Bob Friend, Vernon Law, Harvey Haddix, Warren Spahn, Carl Erskine, sal Maglie, Bob Bulh, Lew Burdette, etc. The innings never seemed to bother them either.

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    Halladay is a great pitcher no doubt but in terms of pure stuff I think Tim Lincecum is the best pitcher in baseball. Managers today pay WAY to much attention to pitch counts instead of relying on how tired/effective a pitchers arm is. I think most of the pitchers that have arm problems get them from starting to throw curves at way to young of an age and also overthrowing their fastball. It's not all about MPH because a good hitter will crush an 100 MPH fastball as easy if not easier than a 90 MPH fastball. Pitching is about location, tendencies and deception. To many young pitchers think they can just blow fastballs by hitters and learn the hard way they can't and they also damage their arms in the process IMO.
     
  7. Tom Iron

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    About Halladay, An excellent pitcher of course, but he hasn't been around the league once yet. He'll take his lumps, but the hitters haven't seen him enough yet.

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    Too bad Halladay played for a crappy Toronto team all of this years. It would be interesting to see how many wins he would have if he had played for a team with a good offense.Edited by: green fire317
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    Halladay ranks 1st among active pitchers with 52 complete games, but is behind over 800 pitchers for his career. Cy Young ranks first with 749 complete games (!!). 16 pitchers had over 400 CGs; among post-WWII players, Warren Spahn is tops with 382.
     
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    Now he can add a perfect game to his accomplishments. Amazing.
     
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    Amazing game by Halladay!

    Many of the best pitchers ever have been white... Ryan, Koufax, and Johnson to name a few.

    Halladay has a good chance of being right up there.
     
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    Great accomplishment by Halladay.

    I just checked the list of perfect games. There's been 15 since the sacred day when Jackie Robinson first played in 1947, yet not a single one has been pitched by one of the "world's greatest athletes." Of course maybe the greatest athletic accomplishment of all time was Dock Ellis throwing ano-hitter while supposedly on an LSD trip. [​IMG]
     
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    "Many" isquite theunderstatement. More like 99 percent. [​IMG]
     
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    Can we cross D-Train Willis off the potential Cooperstown list now?

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    Congratulations to Roy Halladay on his perfect game!
     
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    Halladay looks more and more like the NL Cy Young winner with a 20-10 mark, 8 CGs, and a 2.53 ERA.

    Let's hope for one more big start and then we can dismiss the inferior Jimenez from the conversation.
     
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    Halladay goes 21-10 on the year with a 2.44 ERA and 9 CGs and deserves the NL Cy Young award.
     
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    Roy Halladay retired today, after signing a 1 day contract with the Blue Jays.

    One of the premier pitchers of our generation

    203 wins, 2200 K's, 2 CY youngs and 8 all star appearances

    Having grown up only an hour from me in Arvada, Colorado, he was one of my favorite players that I always followed throughout his career

    Always refreshing to see an athlete retire on top of their game and in good health, although his last year was a down year
     
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    Sad news.

    Reports coming out that Roy Halladay died in a plane crash off of Florida at age 40

    He was always one of my favorite baseball players growing up coming out of Arvada West High School, a suburb that a bunch of my relatives and mom went to
     
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    RIP Roy!
     
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