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Discussion in 'Philadelphia Eagles' started by FootballDad, May 14, 2010.
You nailed it there. Glad to see you back TJR, don't be a stranger.
Baseball Hall of Famers Cal Ripken Jr. and Eddie Murray used to be very close friends when they played for the Baltimore Orioles. I don't remember what Murray called Ripken, but Ripken used to call Murray "gorilla butt"!
Lions teammates OK with use of racial slurs inside the locker room
by Chris Burke
Is a racial slur used between friends still a racial slur? A couple of players in the Detroit Lions’ locker room are, somewhat inadvertently, putting that question to the test.
The Detroit News‘ Terry Foster wrote Thursday about the relationship between tight end Tony Scheffler and safety Louis Delmas, a friendship which dates back to their time together at Western Michigan in 2005. Scheffler spoke very highly of Delmas for a piece that ran right here on Audibles, and the pair shares what Foster calls “one of the tightest bonds in the Lions dressing room.”
So, what to make of this …
“Hey, cracker,” Delmas often says to Scheffler inside the Lions practice facility.
“How’s my n—–?” Scheffler replies.
Delmas is black. Scheffler is white.
Delmas said there is a difference between using slurs in public and doing it behind closed doors with a close friend you consider a brother, even if the brother is white.
“Me and [Scheffler] have a relationship many people do not have — both black and white,” Delmas said. “I look at him like my brother. I love him to death.
“He greets me, ‘What up, n—–?’ But I understand it. So I say, ‘What’s up, cracker?’ But we would never take it outside the building.”
In an increasingly-PC world, the lighthearted back and forth between Scheffler and Delmas seems to walk a very tenuous line. The recent incident involving Eagles WR Riley Cooper, in which he was caught on tape using the n-word and was subsequently excused from Eagles practices for a few days to undergo counseling, turned Cooper into something of a pariah, even within the Philadelphia locker room.
Scheffler’s use of that taboo word is Delmas-approved and done in a much more affectionate manner. But does that make it OK?
Thanks for the welcome back Don. I'm going to try to occasionally post this season. I just hope we get some good news this season to talk about, like we did in the 2010 season with Hillis and Woodhead.
somewhat relevant to Cooper, Eagles trade for Maehl! and all that only for him to be a gunner? hmmm
Jeff Maehl - WR - Eagles
Eagles acquired WR Jeff Maehl from the Texans in exchange for OT Nate Menkin.
Chip Kelly is very familiar with Maehl, who played wideout and special teams for Kelly's Oregon teams. He'll probably compete primarily for a gunner job in Philly. Maehl, 24, went undrafted out of Oregon two years ago. He appeared in three 2011 games, but none in 2012 and has never caught an NFL pass.
It would be great if the 3-cone record holder in the modern combine era (Jeff Maehl) makes a contribution to the Eagles.
I never considered Aaron Hernandez white as he looks like he has a little black blood in him (is his dad Puerto Rican IDK). And you know that even 1/8th black men in the NFL identify as black for the benefit of the caste system. I however, consider (maybe 1/8th Indigenous) Greg Salas to be white .
Here is my depth chart to start the season if I'm coach and it plays out like I think it will.
1. Desean Jackson
2. Riley Cooper (I believe he could make a solid #1, but he'll play as a dominant outside #2 this yr.)
3. Greg Salas (can play both in the slot and outside)
4. Jason Avant (always steady with good hands, but I'm goin w/ youth and agility above)
5. Jeff Maehl (good chance he moves up depth chart to challenge Salas & Avant)
6. Russell Shepard (looked good in camp)
7. Damaris Johnson (punt returner/ solid backup slot option...is he eligible for the practice squad? Nick Miller would get a fair shot to compete for this spot if I'm coach)
Edited to say: Salas (4.56) has the same 40 time as Ryan Whalen and Dane Sanzenbacher (rookies the same year) and Maehl ran about the same at 4.6. Decker, from the previous year, was estimated to run about a 4.55 also. Shipley, a 3rd round pick, ran a 4.6 and shares some similarities to Salas. Salas had good agility measurables at the combine and if he hadn't broke his leg with the Rams he'd have continued to put up nice numbers. I heard an announcer say last game "if Salas makes the team" after Salas led the Eagles in receiving. To me Hawaii's all-time leading receiver is getting the white treatment. I know some disagree, but I consider him yet another white WR on the Eagles as he looks pretty white.
Chip Kelly has been surprisingly "white-friendly" so far in his first year as head coach. After his black heavy Oregon teams, who would have thunk it? Drafting Barkley, Johnson, Ertz and Kruger. Signing Barwin and Casey. Giving David Ball a chance. Trading for Maehl. Let's see if he has the guts to start Foles and give some playing time to Colt Anderson and Casey Matthews. Are many of these moves coincidences? Am I expecting too much from Kelly?
I still think that Kelly will go with QB Dog Killer as the starter, but that's no big deal, he's no longer news to DWFs. Besides that, he'll be injured before you know it, and Foles will start. I'm rooting hard for the white WR contingent to light it up. It would be awesome to see the EAGLES with 3 white wideouts on the field at once!
The Eagles were growing a bit “whiter” at the end of Andy Pig’s tenure (especially the OL), but Kelly had a nice draft, brought in little known white ex-players from Oregon and New Hampshire, and handled the Riley Cooper “controversy” with class (in that he barely said anything).
The Eagles currently have 88 active roster spots, 34 of which (or nearly 40%) are held by white players…
QB – Barkley, Foles, Kinne
WR – Cooper, Maehl, Miller
TE – Carrier, Casey, Celek, Ertz, Shaw
OL – Barbre, Herremans, Johnson, Kelce, Kelly, Kopa, Mathis, Reynolds, Tennant, Tobin, Vandervelde, Watkins
DE – Kruger
LB – Barwin, Knott, Long, Matthews
DB – Anderson
ST – Dorenbos, Henery, Jones, Winchester, Wing
CAPTION: Jake Knott Impresses in Pre-Season Debut
Of course, plenty of these players will be cut, but I’d estimate that anywhere from 19-24 white players will make the 53-man roster. Considering the Packers' ever-darkening roster (and corresponding on-field struggles), Philly will likey have the most white players of any squad in the NFC, and by a wide margin. Even with Michael Vick at QB, this team should be racially-pallatable for the first time in decades.
Im going to be a hated SOB here in Dallas Cowboy country this season for rooting for Philly. ALL my neighbors are retarded Cowboys fans. Every Sunday they get together to watch the game, and get loud. They dress like the face painted idiots in the crowd just to watch the games on tv. My wife and I get a good laugh at how their whole week is ruined by a Cowboys loss. They become noticeably depressed.
As Foobar pointed out earlier in this thread, Vick standing up so strongly for Cooper likely helped his cause of being the starting QB. But Vick is a small, scrawny, injury prone quarterback who is well past his peak, and most importantly he has always lacked the quick reaction time needed to run an offense like the one Kelly wants.
So even if Vick starts the season, he may not finish it, and even if he does he won't be starting in 2014. Nothing against Foles, but Barkley has franchise quarterback qualities -- extremely smart, decisive, accurate, along with possessing leadership abilities and charisma. He reminds me of Peyton Manning. He may not have the same arm strength Peyton did when he was younger, but I don't see him lacking much else. I think Kelly drafted him with the idea of making him the starter, it's just a matter of timing. The defense may be so woeful again this year that it would be best to throw Barkley into the fire at some point in his rookie season and let him grow as the team gets better.
Barkley's arm strength is fine. Manning didn't have Manning's arm strength when he came out. This whole bashing on arm strength is just a method to bring down White qbs by the msm.
Tebow was said to lack arm strength, but after a real expert did an analysis on him, said his arm strength is great, he just has problems going through his reads and tends to lock on to one receiver, this may be do to his dyslexia, he also tends to throw the ball late, instead of anticipating a receiver getting open. These things can be worked on.
Unless a White qb has an absolute cannon like Ryan Mallet, draft "gurus" are going to bash the arm strength thing.
and apparently according to these same draft gurus, arm strength can never get better, even though we saw it with Brees after he injured his throwing shoulder. He perfected his mechanics and hit the weight room. His arm strength was about adequate coming out.
As long as you can make all of the throws, thats what counts. If your arm strenght is just adequate then you better have good anticipation.
I would say Barkley's arm is better than Matt Ryan's. He might take a few years to develop to full potential though.
I just want someone who is going to be able to pass the ball to Cooper. Vick might be the best at doing that with this controversy, like I said before, White qbs might feel discouraged to target him and go to the black receivers more. Cooper might essentially become Kevin Walter, a great blocker but never used, and like the Texans, the Eagles have a lot of tight ends. However, with Vick, I think it will be a good combo. Cooper does well with scrambling qbs, knows how to come back to the ball and extend the play, Vick can just let it fly up there and he will get it, it doesn't have to be precision passing, like with a 5'8 or 5'9 DeSean Jackson.
Matt Ryan's arm strength has really improved these last two seasons, he's recent proof that arm strength can be improved dramatically over the course of one offseason.
DWFs and MSM are just full of **** though. I recently heard a DWF say that Nick Foles has a weak arm as well. Not only is that complete bull**** because Nick Foles has pretty good arm strength, but it's also totally irrelevant. Why? Because Chip Kelly made it very clear that arm strength isn't a large factor in his offense.
On a somewhat related note, ESPN has fired Hugh Douglas after that incident in Florida. It's a very minor victory, as far as double standards go. We need to see more of this, no free passes to black people for their racist behavior.
IMO the sports channels keep a black bigot on staff to make the jews/white race traitors look good. Typical and effective tactic of controlling the center of the debate, sniff out the center and then denounce the extremes.
Indeed, and espn is the worst of all. I have concluded that they are THE propaganda machine in sports cultural marxism jew power anti-white, anti-Christian agenda. For the average sports male fan and who is not even awake, they are far more suceptable to the network that is the epitome of being propaganda-focused rather than sports-focused for the BIG picture.
Gotta love Riley's confidence, that's why I think he's handled himself so well through this persecution. Just about any other White American forced to go through this bs would still be apologizing and putting down his abilities.
For Eagles' Cooper, It's Like Old Times Again
by Zach Berman
Almost three weeks have passed since video surfaced of Riley Cooper using a racial slur at a June concert, and the reality has set in that Cooper will remain with the Eagles this season and play a major role.
Cooper appears to be the Eagles' starting left wide receiver, replacing the injured Jeremy Maclin. The coaching staff is counting on him to be a central part of the offense and the narrative has changed from whether he would even be on the team to just how valuable he can be.
"I feel comfortable," Cooper said. "I'm loving it."
Cooper started both preseason games and caught three passes. Despite starting 10 games in three seasons, he's never had a central role. He has always been behind Maclin, DeSean Jackson, and Jason Avant. That's what Cooper expected when he arrived at camp this season, too.
Now he's the one paired with Jackson. Avant is playing the slot. Cooper, who has 46 catches for 679 yards and five touchdowns in three seasons, could potentially top those totals in 2013.
"It is different, but starting the game, whether it's the first game or the last game, I feel it's the exact same," Cooper said. "I try not to put an ample amount of pressure on myself just because I'm the starting guy going into Week 1. And that could change."
Don't expect it to change. Cooper was in coach Chip Kelly's plans even before Maclin and Arrelious Benn were lost for the season and during Cooper's excused absence earlier this month. He's a skilled blocker on the edge, which is key in Kelly's offense. He's also one of the big-bodied receivers on the roster.
The way he'll be used will also be different than in past seasons. Under Andy Reid, the Eagles had an "X" receiver and a "Z" receiver on the outsides. The X was always the widest receiver away from the tight end. That was Cooper's spot. In Kelly's offense, receivers are identified by side of the field, not side of the offense. So Cooper could play the X and the Z.
In Thursday's 14-9 win over the Carolina Panthers, Cooper recorded two catches for 27 yards - one diving catch, and one on a Michael Vick rollout when he extended his route to get open.
He was also instrumental in both touchdown runs. On Nick Foles' scrambling score, Cooper blocked his man to keep an open edge. On McCoy's touchdown run, Cooper faked an end around and the motion drew his man inside.
"I want to be known as someone that's all-around," Cooper said. "Not someone who had 12 touchdowns this year, but you can't run the ball to his side of the field because he can't block. Or you can't run an end around, because he's not fast. I want to be able to do everything. And I can do everything."
That might be hyperbole, but he clearly offers value. The Eagles would likely not have stood by Cooper so firmly if he could not contribute to the team.
Kelly said he never considered getting rid of Cooper, and general manager Howie Roseman said that the team's decision to keep Cooper had nothing to do with Maclin's injury. Cooper is a player the team has invested time in developing, and they were already optimistic about how he would fit.
"I think he's had a very good camp and he's made a lot of plays out here," offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur said. "He's a big-body guy, catches the ball in the crowd. He does find a way to wiggle free, and I think he's an outstanding blocker. So he's doing what we ask."
Cooper said his teammates have been "so supportive" and that it's like "old times again." There also have not been any issues from opposing players. His actions on the video will forever be attached to his name, but he now has a season to carve his reputation as an Eagles starting wide receiver - and potentially earn a second contract from the team with a strong campaign "I feel like I can be a great receiver in the NFL, and hopefully, this year, it shows," Cooper said. "Because I want to be here. I want to stay in Philly. I want to start in Philly, and I want to end in Philly. I really hope that we can do that."
My bet is that the blacks subconsciously gained some respect for the guy after that incident. They think he has balls for saying something that every white man wants to say but is too cowed by the thought that someone might have a bad opinion of him. Something blacks never worry about. The whites they degrade with taunts every night who are too p*ssy to respond in kind, they think are wimps. Why wouldn't they?
I'm ready to do what little I can do if some white player rips the helmet off some racial expletive spewing black player and puts the whooping on him. Of course it won't be little more than internet commando, but I think he would get ALOT of support.
I agree whole whole-heartedly. Its been my experience that this type of thing puts in the back of their minds "I betta not mess with that whiteboy cuz that white boy crazy as hell". Almost like, if he will say that illegal word theres no telling what else he might do.
It seems like the media's attempt to beat this dead horse ran out of steam. With the incident behind him I expect Cooper to have a solid season even with PB killer Vick under center. I hope it's either Foles or Barkley under center by the end of the year.
Cooper got into a fight with some gum-flapping DB during practice and Yahoo/Profootballtalk are both fanning the flames trying to beat the dead horse of what Cooper did earlier this summer (which was nothing).
The Orwellian spin doctors are hard at work. War is peace, slavery is freedom.
Eagles teammates Riley Cooper and Cary Williams got into a "heated scuffle" in Thursday's practice, and had to be separated by "several players." According to beat writer Jeff McLane, Williams used a racial slur in the incident. Cooper, of course, came under fire after amateur video caught him using a racial slur at a Kenny Chesney concert this summer. However, FOX Sports' Alex Marvez reports Thursday's incident wasn't "race related." Cooper's ugly-hearted foolishness has put a target on his back this season.
Cooper is "ugly hearted," but Williams's anti-White racial slur (or slurs) had nothing to do with race.
Nice find. Here is a full video of the fight, which isn't being played in it's entirety on ESPN (only the brief portion where Cooper is punching back)...
Cooper threw 1-2 punches as the two rose from the turf and Williams grabbed his facemask and wouldn't let go. After Cooper is finally released, he walks away, and Williams continues to scream at him and looks like he's about to cry. Michael Vick holds him back and looks annoyed.
It's comical how much larger Cooper is than all of the Negroes in the video. Williams looks like a stick-figure compared to him and would get his ass kicked in a real fight.
per this article, Vick seemingly was ready to fight Williams!
Seems like Mike Vick understands that Cooper is his best option. Cooper can potentially get Vick a lot of praise.