Ricky Hatton

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I just wanted to let you guys know that R.Hatton fights tonight on HBO.He should knock this guy out if all goes according to plan.I really want to see him fight either Mayweather or De La Hoya.
 

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I'll be watching it - I can't wait. When he beat Kosta I said he should be considered the pound for pound best in the world. I still think he would crush the over-hyped Mayweather. I saw the Mayweather vs. Judah fight and wasn't impressed at all with Mayweather and even less with Judah. American black boxers are extremely over-rated. Hatton is 40-O. If a black man 40-0 beat Kosta he would no doubt have been considered the best pound for pound.

BTW, isn't it funny how the trolls like godking and pugnus no longer post anything in the boxing section? Where are you guys? We could use a good troll to kick around instead of fighting with each other.
 

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Hatton squeaked by Collozo. It seemed like Collozo's style was wrong for the attacking Hatton. If that was Mayweather in there tonight Hatton would have been in trouble. Still I would prefer for Hatton to stay at 140. His natural strength is his biggest asset. It was blunted by the more natural welter in Collozo........
 

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I agree, white is right, he wasn't too impressive last night. Welter isn't his natural weight but it isn't Mayweather's either. Mayweather still hasn't fought a real Welterweight. I wasn't impressed with his last fight either.

My new best pound for pound boxer is Wvaldamir. Why not a heavyweight? Recently he has had the best performances in championship caliber matches. Edited by: Kaptain Poop
 

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That was a scary fight for Hatton. I scored it 114-113, as did one of the judges, so Hatton basically won because of that weird knock down in the first round. It looked like Collozo's punches were hitting harder than Hatton's, and his accuracy seemed to stifle Hatton's aggressive punching style.

I think Mayweather or De La Hoya would beat Hatton, unfortunately.
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Well, I haven't seen the fight yet, but I'm reluctant to write him off after one fight where he went up in weight class and took away someone's belt. Ricky let himself get more out of shape than usual in between fights this time and he may just need to stay at jr. welterweight. I've watched several of his fights at that weight, and he was nothing short of electric. I hope he goes back to 140 and makes Mayweather come back down to him.
 

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I have not yet seen the fight either, but I won't criticize Hatton too much, he knocked Collazo down and he did win. Some observations:
Hatton did let himself get out of shape more than I think he should have. On ESPN weeks ago he looked like a lightheavy.
When Hatton did start training he hadn't yet picked the opponent. In fact, he hadn't picked his opponent until quite recently. That is significant. When fighting at his elite level, all of his opponents are very likely going to be really training hard and hungry to beat him. He would be better served to know who is fighting well in advance to better prepare for each specific fighter and their respective styles. A fast tricky southpaw like Collazo is no pushover and longer prep time would only help because training can be designed specifically for him.
Collazo was a belt holder, a champion. Hatton fighting him at welter is not the same thing as when Mayweather fights a some guy ranked 20 or so. In other words, Collazo must be a decent fighter.
Lastly, I wouldn't make too much of him not impressing as much as we thought. Nor would I make too much of Mayweather not looking that good against Judah. No fighter is going to look incredible all the time. Hatton would probably admit to himself that he took Collazo lightly and Mayweather would probably admit the same to himself regarding Judah. The biggest mistake any of us, or worse, any of Hatton's next opponents may make, is to underestimate him.
 

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Hatton made a good argument for himself: he hadn't fought a southpaw in four or five years, fighting a champion in his first fight at that weight, etc. He said he would get better, so he understands what he needs to do.

I like his aggression and stamina, but his style could become a big problem. He walks right into punches and doesn't jab. It's brutal on his opponents when it's effective, but as we saw last night, brutal for him when it's not.

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At the end of the day,the most important thing is that he is still undefeated.As others have already said,no one can bring their A Game every single fight.He still like Joe Calazhe has never lost.That is what will keep him as the talk of boxing other than Mayweather.He will adapt to the weight in time.I think it was the right decision to move up and he will prove that over time.If he can beat Mayweather down the road,that could be one of the biggest wins ever by one of our guys.It would simply shut up every critic left as to how good Hatton really is.I hope he can stay focused and continue training to keep improving.What a exciting time it is to be following boxing!!
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white lightning said:
At the end of the day,the most important thing is that he is still undefeated.As others have already said,no one can bring their A Game every single fight.He still like Joe Calazhe has never lost.That is what will keep him as the talk of boxing other than Mayweather.He will adapt to the weight in time.I think it was the right decision to move up and he will prove that over time.If he can beat Mayweather down the road,that could be one of the biggest wins ever by one of our guys.It would simply shut up every critic left as to how good Hatton really is.I hope he can stay focused and continue training to keep improving.What a exciting time it is to be following boxing!!
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After watching the fight tonight, I really wish that he would go back down to 140lbs. He should make Mayweather come to him. The reason I don't like the move up in weight class is that his syle is one that depends on him being stronger and more physical than his opponent. At welterweight, virtually every fighter he faces will be naturally bigger and taller than him. It's more difficult to use that bullying style against men who are larger than he. I really hate this move up. I hope he and his handlers watch the film and come to the same conclusion. Most boxers careers seem to head south when they move up in weight class. The ones who box and try to outpoint people seem to do better moving up, but that is not a description of our boy Ricky Hatton.
 

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I agree. Hatton should stay at the lower weight where his strength and stamina can wear down his opponent. Beating a slick boxer like Mayweather would be a huge challenge, but he might have a shot if he stays at 140lbs.
 

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That was the first time I have seen Hatton live. Everyone's comments on the fight are right on. After the first 2-3 rounds Hatton looked confused and awkward. I was extremely worried at the conclusion of the fight that he hadn't done enough to take Collozo's belt. Fortunately the judges saw it differently than I did.

The verdict on Hatton's move up will have to wait until Collozo takes on another top notch fighter(if any of the others will face him.) Maybe he's one of the top 3-4 welterweights in the division.

One interesting stat about their weights was on the night of the fight it was reported that Hatton was back up to 158 and Collozo was back up to 156 pounds.

HBO's anouncer claimed Hatton's normal weight (before training)is around 170.
 

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Triad said:
That was the first time I have seen Hatton live. Everyone's comments on the fight are right on. After the first 2-3 rounds Hatton looked confused and awkward. I was extremely worried at the conclusion of the fight that he hadn't done enough to take Collozo's belt. Fortunately the judges saw it differently than I did.

The verdict on Hatton's move up will have to wait until Collozo takes on another top notch fighter(if any of the others will face him.) Maybe he's one of the top 3-4 welterweights in the division.

One interesting stat about their weights was on the night of the fight it was reported that Hatton was back up to 158 and Collozo was back up to 156 pounds.

HBO's anouncer claimed Hatton's normal weight (before training)is around 170.

Yes, he likes to hang out in pubs in between fights and get fat. He seems like a really cool guy, not pretentious at all. But when he starts training they say he goes at it with everything he has.

From the Boston Globe:because there is much money to be made in the welterweight division, the majority of his advisers and promoters will urge him to press on as a welterweight. They'll mention the millions he can make against Arturo Gatti in a unification fight if Gatti wins the World Boxing Council title in July from Carlos Baldomir. They'll remind him of the pot of gold at the end of the blood-red fistic rainbow if he beats Gatti to get to the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world, International Boxing Federation welterweight champ Floyd Mayweather Jr. They'll leave the blood-red part out when that discussion begins and speak only of green.

HBO's suits will urge him to do the same, already having invested heavily in his future based on him beating Collazo and moving on to those bigger fights on pay-per-view. He confirmed his well-deserved reputation for toughness with an American audience before a roaring house of 6,280 at the Garden (don't believe the 7,850 promoter Art Pelullo cited).

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Hatton's loyal liege, trainer Billy Graham, who said he'd never advocated Hatton relinquishing his multiple (WBA and IBF) 140-pound titles and moving up in weight.

In fact, he insisted, he opposed it and now does even more despite Hatton's escape with a slim victory that Collazo (26-2, 12 KOs) naturally disputed.

''I never wanted him to move up to welterweight in the first place," Graham said while asserting his man deserved the unanimous decision. ''Ricky Hatton is the No. 1 junior welterweight [140 pounds] in the world. Why did TV insist he move up to 147? I argued against it, but no one listened. It was out of my bounds
''You move up when you can't make weight. He makes the weight easily and can fight bell-to-bell for 12 rounds and be strong, but these days, to go down as an all-time great, you have to go through [multiple] weight divisions. Why? I said when he was a young lad to him that he would dominate one class. He's a junior welterweight! Floyd Mayweather is [really] a junior welterweight. You want that fight, make it at that weight.''Too often the trainer is seen as a poor relation. They don't listen to him. But I know my kid. I'll make me voice heard before Ricky fights again."

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''Kostya Tszyu was a very, very tough fight, but this was a difficult fight for a different reason," said Hatton (41-0, 30 KOs). ''Luis has a tricky [lefthanded] style and I was moving up in weight and straight away fought a world champion. So I'd say, yeah, it was the toughest fight of my life. But I'll fight anybody. That includes Luis in a rematch."

Hatton said knocking Collazo down with a left hand barely 20 seconds into the fight might have been ''the worst thing you can do. You get a bit of a rush in the head and lose your way a little bit." Graham spoke of the same problem, claiming Hatton had not followed the plan they'd worked on after dropping Collazo so quickly. But Hatton admitted it wasn't as simple as forgetting his plan. Collazo's size had much to do with changing that plan.

''I still believe I'm a junior welterweight," Hatton said. ''This [move] was never really in the plans but that's where the [big] fights were. Moving up, I noticed the difference. The force of the shots was very different. He hurt me several times. I'm man enough to admit it."

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[url]http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/boxing/articles/20 06/05/15/a_weighty_decision_for_hatton/?rss_id=Boston%20Glob e%20--%20Today's%20paper%20A%20to%20Z [/url]
 

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MSN.com had a good feature today on top athletes most Americans don't know about. Ricky Hatton was listed at #6. Unfortunately, there was no pic included (though Ronaldinho, the black Brazilian soccer player,had a big smiling pic). So many non-boxing fans probably figure Ricky Hatton looks like Frank Bruno.

On the plus side, Hatton was the only boxer listed.
 

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Hatton is fighting tonight on HBO. Fight starts at 9:45 EST.
 

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Hatton by UD over Urango, 119-109 on all three cards.
 

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Yeah, he fought a good fight. What was Urnago doing thinking that he won?

I just got HBO and this was the first good thing I saw on it!
 

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Hatton showed some good sound boxing technique saturday night. Lead rights, uppercut's, bobbing, weaving and slipping punches most of the night. 4th round or so Urango initiated a good body attack but it was short lived after Hatton returned fire and ripped a few solid left hooks to Urango's midsection. Pretty entertaining bout.
 

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I hope he doesn't fight Castillo in Vegas. I don't like those 10 oz gloves on him. He's much better with the 8 ouncers.Edited by: KG2422
 

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Ricky Hatton returns with a fight this coming Saturday against Juan Lazcano in Manchester.

This fight and the co-feature, Malignaggi vs. N'Dou II, will be broadcast on Versus in the US and carried by The Fight Network in Canada.
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Go Ricky!
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Ricky Hatton... I still can't watch the replay of him getting clocked by PBF. Hopefully he has learned from his recklessness and has a great performance over a 2nd tier fighter who once fought at junior lightweight.

If I was Ricky I would ask for a rematch against PBF and have it in England with an agreed upon ref. I will never look at Hatton the same way unless he avenges that loss and or looks better losing to Floyd.

Hopefully, Oscar can give Floyd his first loss and Hatton will gain some leverage for a rematch. We can all hope.
 
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I am looking forward to Hatton's fight tommorrow night on Versus. I hope he dominates. He should, the opponent is a former a junior light weight contender. Some article in eastsideboxing.com stated that Ricky has a serious drinking problem(no kidding) and that it will catch up with him. I agree with the article that Ricky should stop abusing Guinness and focus on a more healthy diet when not preparing for a fight. We'll see.
 
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Just viewed the weigh photos of Hatton. Damn that guy is ripped. But how much longer can he ballon up to 175 lbs between fights and think it will not affect him or his performances sooner rather than later.

It will be however, a beer drinking feast tommorrow night at my pad as we watch Hatton rebound from that defeat by the hands of PBF.
 

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Hatton wins a very wide decision (120-108, 120-110, 118-110). I scored it 118-110.

Hatton looked okay, but he's not quite the same fighter as he was. He seems to have aged a little.
 

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I thought he looked good considering he was coming back from a KO loss. He was in there with a tough customer in Lazcano. Versus commentators were a effing joke. Suggesting after 1 defeat he's a washed up has been. Wally Matthews is just a regular caste reporter. I used to like him but not now. Hatton needs to stay away from left hookers as he was wideopen to that punch all night and paid the price a few times.
 
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