RB -- Brian Leonard

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I dunno, I think he's making a mistake by returning for his senior season. If his production numbers drop even slightly, the caste will seize upon him and say that his junior year was a fluke, and now he looks slow just like other White RB's, we knew he wasn't that good, blah, blah, blah...

Sticking around to work toward your degree as a college athlete is overrated; Leonard is probably close to having enough credit hours to graduate, and he can finish up in the off-season pretty easily. But the window of opportunity to pay in the NFL - especially for a Caucasian running back - is miniscule and you should strike while the iron is hot.
 

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Assuming that the NFL has any interest inLeonard at all other than to beef him up 25 pounds for his racially correct role as a blocking fullback is a stretch. There is usually one or two good running backs (or running fullbacks) in I-A each year and loads of them in small college programs. None get a chance to run the ball in the NFL and I've yet to read anything different about Brian Leonard. When he's not even allowed to be a tailback in college, it's hard to be optimistic about his chances as a pro.
 

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i agree with Southern Knight, he should have entered this year, he would have gone in 3rd round according to several experts, which is not bad for white fullback... he is such an extraordinary talent that any NFL team will HAVE to give him some carries/passes and i am sure Brian will make the best out of them... If Alstott retires next year i would love to see Leonard in Tampa, maybe Gruden (whose ego can't bear all the fan affection towwards Mike Alstott) will treat him better than he did Mike...
 
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I would liek the Steelers to draft him..he would be a great power back and replacement for the BUS as a HB.
 

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Except Bill Cowher will never use him as a running back. I don't know if you remember Merrill Hoge, but he was the Steelers main running back when Cowher took over from Chuck Noll (Hoge was the last starting white running back in the NFL of any consequence), and Cowher promptly converted him into a blocking fullback. Dan Kreider gets about 2 carries a season. But I don't know if any team will give Leonard the opportunity to run the ball.
 

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Again it is a non issue as he has chose to return to school for his senior year.Let's hope he can have a monster season and make the scouts all take notice!He is so fun to watch him run the ball.
 

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scouts already took noticed, i saw him as projected top 10 runningback for bext year draft in several draft sites... all the best luck to him! give him the damn ball Rutgers
 
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Don Wassall said:
Except Bill Cowher will never use him as a running back. I don't know if you remember Merrill Hoge, but he was the Steelers main running back when Cowher took over from Chuck Noll (Hoge was the last starting white running back in the NFL of any consequence), and Cowher promptly converted him into a blocking fullback. Dan Kreider gets about 2 carries a season. But I don't know if any team will give Leonard the opportunity to run the ball.
Wow .....I did not know that about Merril Hodge. kinda funny because on t.v. he is so overtly pro-black and a caste follower, you would think he of all people would question the caste system at play.
 

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guys for those who haven't seen Leonard in action click on that link and go to multimedia tab... i recommend seeing them all, starting with Illinois game, first of the season which in one run resumes what incredible player Brian is
 

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Here's a quote from a Sporting News article that deals with several subjects: "Lost amid all the heading-for-the-NFL talk: Rutgers FB Brian Leonard will stay for his senior season. Leonard and rising sophomore-to-be Ray Rice give Rutgers the top backfield combination in the nation in 2006."

Let's hope Leonard gets the ball more than Rice next year.
 

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yeah this Rice kid is actually pretty good but Leonard still got most of short yardage and 4th quarter carries plus many more during every game... Brian is also a great receiver out of the backfield, really reminds me of Mike Alstott, but has even better speed and hands!
 

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I unfortunatly think next year Rice will be eating away at the number of carries Brian gets. Hopefully I'm wrong.
 

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Here's an article on Leonard. Compares him favorably to Riggins and Alstott, but also notes how the NFL loves not only how he runs and catches but how he blocks. Other than the pass blocking all tailbacks have to do, the last thing you'd want is to take years off the career of a talented RB by making him block, but of course he's white therefore he has to be a fullback, blah, blah, blah.


Note also the discussion at the bottom of the page -- "Caucasians are slower than Negroes" --
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I didn't read it but from the titles of the messages it sounds like real troglodyte stuff.


http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9474030
 

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why must every article, and even his own team, always refer to him as a "fullback"? why not "running back"? he's much better than the scat back who occasionally lines up behind him, and he's a complete player!

can you imagine a team that lined up out of split backs as their base formation, with a couple of all-around backs like Leonard and Peyton Hillis?
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they would be nearly unstoppable, simply because the defense would have no idea who to key on. it would awesome!
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yet, coaches refuse to give many of these types of backs opportunities except purely as blockers.
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This guy had 107 TDs! in high school. That is some sick ass stuff right there. That's +25 a year. Most guys are lucky to get 25 TDs in a high career let alone average that a season.
 

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he is amazing!
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just imagine a backfield with both Leonard and Hillis coming at you...it would give a defensive coordinator nightmares!

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the Leonard Leap!

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Hillis destroying another DB on a swing pass!

WOW!!!
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That picture of him leaping over the defender would make a great avatar for somebody here, though the detailmight be tough to make out if it was shrunk that much.
 
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wow, what a leap by Leonard. Can anyone fill me in on Hillis? What year is he? Is he an RB or FB? Is he utilized at all?
 

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Hillis had 315 yards rushing and 402 receiving last year as a sophomore. 235 pounds with 4.49 speed and lots of running ability. Since he's white he's used as a fullback but with such overwhelming talent he's another guy who may get a chance as atailback if even one team in the NFL ever gets its head out of its ass.


We've had a thread going on him since October of '04 that gives loads of info on him:


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i really wish brian leonard would have went to notre dame...the thought of Brady Quinn (my idol) handing the ball to him is a beautiful sight
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Hopefully they'll use Leonard like they did Alstott at the next level. You know give him a decent amount of carries so he can almost get to the 1,000 yard mark like Mike did that one season. Since a team would never use a white guy at RB full time.
 
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Maybe someone will consider him "freakish" like they did Matt Jones...I would love to see Leonard be the feature back for a team.
 

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Maybe someone will consider him "freakish" like they did Matt Jones...I would love to see Leonard be the feature back for a team.

That's a good observation. When a White is a great athlete they are called "freaks". I've heard Urlacher, Jones, and Nowitzki called this.
 

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DraftDaddy has this very astute blurb about Leonard today:


RB Brian Leonard ~ Rutgers -- This redshirt senior is the best fullback in country and a first round talent that will probably be selected in the second or third round simply because the fullback position has been devalued by NFL teams. He is the complete package - runner, receiver, and blocker. Leonard scored 17 touchdowns last season (11 rushing; 6 receiving). Great athlete, with excellent speed, balance and vision as a runner, who could probably be a feature back at the next level. Thing is, will he get the chance to run the ball a lot in the NFL, or will he be relegated to Moose Johnston status?
 

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Draftdaddy with yet again another great unbiased assessment of a white skill player. I like how they say he could be a feature back at the next level but they know he will probably be regulated to white Moose Johnston FB role. I'm hopimng they give Brian at least the treatment the Bucs gave Alstott(early in his career) and let him run the ball a decent amount of times.
 
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