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Discussion in 'Golf' started by Poacher, Aug 9, 2007.
Who did you consider "Tiger Haters" at The Golf Channel?
There are similarities between how Woods is dominating his competition and Roger Federer is. Federer is simply the world's best tennis player, no matter howmuch his competitors may want to beat him.
What's different is that Woods gets far more media attention and worship, a good portion of which is about how he "intimidates" his opponents. Why don't we ever hear this about Federer's opponents? The media plays on the racial dynamics of the situation, which fit in perfectly with the agenda of psychologically disarming whites in all situations where they must interact with blacks.
My mom had a friend who was the driver that picked up Tiger Woods after a tournament that Tiger lost recently.
Tiger handled the defeat publicly ok , but as soon as he set foot in the car he started to cry and have a temper tantrum like he was 10 years old. No kidding...
This brings a smile to face when I think about it. It sure would give his competitors an advantage if it ever got out!
Tiger "Cry Baby" Woods has a nice ring to it!
OK well here goes.
How good do you think the best golfers actually are? In my opinion, they're really not that good at all compared to the best players in other sports.
In fact, I think that the best runners and swimmers are a lot better at running and swimming than the best golfers are at golfing. Let alone the best players in major ball sports. The level of play in golf is low enough that people entertain the idea that a woman might be able to play at the highest level against men.
I think there is a huge gap between modern American spectator interest in golf, and the actual level of play and the size of the international talent pool. It's easily the biggest gap in any sport that the media covers.
It's completely possible for one player to dominate a game with a small talent pool for a long time. So there's no conspiracy here from my perspective.
Now, I'm familiar with every counter argument, so I guess you guys can fire away. I will reply as best I can and we'll keep it civil. From experience I know people do not like somebody telling them that golfers they look up to are actually not that good.
Woods wants to win every golf game he plays and that is in truth not not a bad mentality for a champion to have.
I remember an interview where he was asked how many majors a year he wants to win.
Woods answer : All of them.
That is where the difference lies between Tiger and the rest of his direct competition at the end of the day he wants it more and will be able to dig deeper when the game is on the line.
Edited by: Turner
Nevada, I think your in the ballpark with that theory but I would tweak it just a little. Golfers who make the pros are very talented. Go to a driving range with one sometime and their skill will dazzle you.
Where professional golf is lacking is in competitive spirit. It really is a bunch of fat cat millionaires with only a small incentive to win. It was probably at its worst when Tiger arrived on the scene. Guys like Tom Kite were millionaires without ever having won a tournament.
Tiger actually embarassed the PGA tour with his fire and will to win. The other golfers have become somewhat more competitive but there are a lot of them who have no appetite for a showdown with Tiger. They are content to place in the money and coast onto the Senior tour.
Let it get out.
I would like to see his competition take advantage of that.
They need all the help they can get!!
I think your idea is ludicrous. With all the money available in golf, you get
a great deal of competition. I don't know how many millions of people
golf in this country alone. Must be a new twist on the "if there aren't any
blacks in the sport (and BTW, Tiger isn't black--just ask him), then the
sport is de facto sub-par." Nice try. Who at the OTC braintrust came up
with this one?
As far as michiganblkman, this is a pro-white forum, eh? Why do you
post here if you aren't pro-white? As far as majors goes, Tiger is really
the only main guy out there in a weak era. My opinion on the whole thing
is that the top white players are mainly fat and happy--Mickelson makes
$50-60 million a year. He really has nothing to prove, and most of the
other guys don't either. Despite the press to the contrary, I bet a lot of
them are pretty lazy about their games. In that regard, Tiger is the guy
who wants it most. If he's crying when he loses, you can bet he's working
harder than the rest.
Its like other pro sports--in the past, guys worked harder because they
made less money, and even if they had a good year, the money wouldn't
last them that far into the future. So they kept working and had an edge.
Now a guy has a good year and he can be set for a long, long time. the
hungriest guys today are usually not the the most talented. You need
both to be at the top.
The competition in pro golf is incredible. I know a couple of guys that played in qualifiers and tried to get on tour and one guy that was on tour for a while. Unlike team sports there are no ambiguities about who plays, no favoites, no intangibles, no coaches favorites. You pony up the cash and play. A one-legged retard can try to get on the tour and if he puts up the numbers he's in. It's precisely the reason there are NO black players on the tour.
There might be otjer ways to cheat though. Years ago I worked with the Army on guidence systems for cheap ordinance, the stuff they didn't want to put gyroscopes and stuff on, instead they wanted a cheap lightweight system to steer shells to an area. They found that shifting the weight at the front of the object around during flight could change the flight path, so some weapons were developed using a simple radio control system and magnetic fluids.
It would be possible to put something like that in a golf ball. I don't know if it could be used in the fairways but a "special" ball could be subsituted while on the green to steer close putts into the hole. It's not foolproof but it could shave a lot of strokes off of a good golfers score. Add in some favorable lies from judges and who knows how good it could make someone?
Best thing is almost no one would have to know, heck the player himself could be clueless about it. And this technology was years ago, who knows what they got now? I'm not saying it's happening just that it easily could.
I think you get competition but not so much from North America. You need to live in the burbs and not be lower middle class to play golf at the real courses. Yes I suppose working class and lower middle class kids could play at the public courses with their flat greens and rocky fairways.... But any course that is halfway decent has a minimum fee of 60 a round for adults, maybe 30 for juniors. Add that up by playing X times a week and month and that's why the best athletes will never be golfers.
I don't know enough about golf to make much of this but today on Canadian sports radio a caller claimed Tiger had an advantage over the others. He said the PGA was going to have to do something about the crowds that follow Tiger around, stand quietly when it's his turn, but often head off to the next hole as soon as he's done while the player paired with him is still taking his stroke.
The host, Bob McCown, didn't really go along with it but he did say the "stampeding herd" is probably a bit distracting to the other players.Edited by: Matra1
Thing is, it's getting rarer and rarer to find pro white athletes in any sport that aren't from the suburbs. Theby-the-bootstrapsathlete who works his way up from trying financial circumstances -- who was often Irish, Polish or Italian -- has pretty much vanished, dispossessedand deracinatedby the anti-white multicultural imperium.
We've talked before about the seeming mental softness of white suburban athletes and there does seem to be something to it. Golf may be the best example of it, but tough, world-class white American athletes are becoming fewer in all sports, the poisonousoutcome of decades ofthe Caste System. The Caste System has to be combatted by white athletes who are more determined, motivated and strong-minded than Tiger Woods, the Williams sisters, and the blacks who dominate football and basketball. They're going to have to be racially aware, but completely quiet about it. As much as I like Phil Mickelson, the Pillsbury Doughboy look and personality isn't going to get it done.
Well, it majorly sucks---but, barring injury, a case of the yips, or the rise of some stars with superior talent and will-to-win, Tiger will break Jack's record.
Turner hit the nail on the head--Woods has a constant relentless desire to win. If that leads to private childish tantrums to stoke himself for the next tournament, I wish some of our people would throw a few.
That said--hope Springs Eternal.
Sergio--dude, you gotta win a major next year. You're our main hope.
And big John---unleash one of your surprise wins--you're due!
Any predictions before the 09 PGA Championship starts tommorrow?
I think Tiger won't win. I'm hoping Phil or Padraig can win it this year. I also want to see Furyk or Cink win, too.
Well, after Day 1, his Lordship is in the lead, at -5, with Padraig Harrington coming in at 2nd with a -4. The media has already proclaimed Tiger the winner at the PGA. I think Padraig will be able to hang with him, and have a decent chance to win.
An Asian, Y E. Yang, has a one shot lead over the Future President of the World with 2 holes to play. Can he do it?
Yang made one of the greatest clutch shots ever on the 18th and wins by three strokes. Woods shot a 75 and failed to win a major in '09. It's the first time he has lost the lead after 54 holes of a major. Way to go, Y.E.! Edited by: Don Wassall
The MSM had all but handed his highness the trophy and Yang tracked him down! Amazing.
Edited by: Poacher
What a great win for Y.E. Yang today. He made some clutch plays that helped him win. Once again, nice job by Y.E. Yang for defeating his Lordship head to head. Tiger goes winless in majors this year! Another major he won't win trying to pass Jack's record of 18. Also, Yang is the first Asain-born player to win a major. After Tiger had a 4 shot lead, the media was giving him the trophy before the 3rd round. Especially the jock-sniffers on the networks covering the PGA Championship.
I would've liked to see some white golfers at least hang with Yang and Woods, though. They were all gone by the 8th hole. After the messiah, the next lowest was a tie for 3rd at -3. I thought Padraig Harrington could, but he unraveled this week at the 8th, snowballing it. Els and McIlroy never really got close either. Glover was one shot off the lead at one time, but he collapsed almost as fast as Harrington. Glover could barely make a putt today. Alvaro Quiros shot +5 today. Stenson and Kjeldson flopped. Again, choking white golfers. Edited by: Jack Lambert
I knew it wouldn't be a white guy that could run down His Royal Highness, so I was mildly hopeful when I saw that an asian was in contention. It's gotta be an asian, hispanic, or indian, to take Woods on, there's no white guys with the cajones left in the top ranks to do it.
I was hoping Padraig was going to be the next great white hope but for the 2nd week in a row he has collapsed. He's done as a force to challange Woods. That leaves no white golfers left. Mickelson's too inconsistent, guys like Furyk are not top challangers, Els is done as a major force. Really no one left. It'll be hard for a young white guy to take on Woods at this stage. I'm glad to see him lose but it's a real bummer that a US white guy didn't do it.
Nick Faldo has to rank with the best of them when it comes to endlessly sniffing Tiger's jock, though a case can be made for virtually every single member of the media. Faldo makes loud, derisivegroans every time a white golfer doesn't executea perfect shot or sink a makeable putt, and always acts amazed when Woods doesn't. He's nauseating to listen towith his Tiger-philia, but they all are except for Jim Nantz.
As for Harrington, he struggled all year after deciding for some reason to change his swing. His game only came around last week. He had one horrible hole both times in the fourth round that doomed him but I expect him to bounce back.
Tiger is in what is considered a golfer's peak years, and not winning a major this year is big. With a little luck, hisone-fourth Negro ancestry will cause him to decline sooner than his worshippers expect. Edited by: Don Wassall
Awesome turn of events! Like jaxvid, I'd rather see a white American win it, but I'll definitely settle for what happened!
It was great watching Yang track down Woods and win, with that incredible 2nd shot on the 18th. And as he made the birdie to clinch the victory, the camera briefly switched to Tiger, who had this $h*t eating look on his face, it was absolutely priceless. That truly made my day!
Yeah, Tiger not winning a major is a huge. I would've rather seen a white golfer win it as well, but I'll take Tiger losing a two shot lead head to head with Yang any day. I would've been happier too if the white golfers all didn't unravel and fade as they went to the back nine. By the time they were on the 10th tee, Yang and Woods were the only golfers still in contention.
Yeah Don, I hate Faldo for doing that. Paraphrase: (After white golfer's putt lands one inch to the right of the hole,) Faldo: "[loud groan]Oh, what was he thinking there? He should have made that."
(After Woods misses the hole to the right by an ince.) Faldo: "How did he miss that? He's just been so unlucky every hole, hitting good shots all day. What's wrong with him?"
I loved watching Tiger cuss and swear as Yang took over the lead and he hit some bad shots. Actually they weren't all bad no matter where he hits the ball, Tiger had a good lie and a nice look at the green.Edited by: Jack Lambert
Did VJ Singh not collapse in this Tournament?
VJ seems to be collapsing all the time now. Lucas Glover won a major this year. Did you predict that?
Do you predict that White men will win ZERO majors next year? If that happens, I'll be very salty but I believe Whites will perform. If you expect one White man to win most of the Tournaments, I would say that you are misguided. I think multiple Whites will be winning, just like it is right now.
As for Mickelson, I believe that even the Caste media has overrated him (over the years) for whatever reason. There are good golfers' that the Caste media doesn't talk about, and they will perform admirably. Watch and see.