Peyton Manning, Race Realist?

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    Peyton Manning, Race Realist?

    by Paul Kersey

    The news of Kansas City Chief Jovan Belcher showing a complete lack of impulse control shouldn't startle anyone who pays attention to the reality of race and crime. Especially when it comes to those athletes who are employees of the National Football League (NFL), a billion-dollar entertainment enterprise.

    Sixty-eight percent of those athletes who play for the NFL's various franchises are black, and as Jeff Benedict noted in his book "Pros and Cons" - just like in the real world - the overwhelmingly majority of those arrested for major and minor offenses are black.

    Two recently retired superstar receivers, Terrell Owens and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, are both dealing with predictable black problems despite their status of world-class athletes (child support payments for a deadbeat dad in Owens; domestic violence charges against Johnson).

    It was Jason Whitlock, a corpulent black sportswriter for Fox Sports, who decided to throw himself into the murky waters of the Jovan Belcher story by writing a column blasting America's gun culture; what Mr. Whitlock was unprepared to do in his story - quoted by Bob Costas on the Sunday night NBC telecast of "Football Night in America" - is point out that "off the field" problems in the NFL are almost always monopolized by black athletes.

    As the New York Times noted in 2008 after New York Giants receiver Plaxico Burress shot himself in the leg at a night club, the NFL does have a gun culture. It also has a thug culture, courtesy of its 69 percent black athletes.

    But what if, removing the New England Patriots and their outstanding lineup of white athletes (which is only growing) from the equation, there was a player - perhaps the greatest quarterback in NFL history - who understood the negative influence that thug athletes can have to a team's chemistry?

    What if Jason Whitlock himself noticed this himself when he wrote of then Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning in 2010 [NFL Truths: Colts offense has white stuff, Fox Sports, 9-30-10]:

    "10. From the we’re-not-supposed-to-mention-this file: It was fascinating watching Peyton Manning and his BYU offense destroy the Denver Broncos.

    "The unwritten rule in sports writing/journalism is we’re only supposed to mention racial progress when it involves dark-skin minorities. Obviously, I don’t care about rules.

    "With receiver
    Pierre Garcon sidelined with an injury, the Colts started and played nine white guys on offense pretty much all day. NFL rosters are nearly 70 percent comprised of African-Americans. What the Colts did was significant.
    "For a day, the best offense in football was 82 percent whit
    Austin Collie, Garcon’s replacement, put a clown suit on the Denver secondary with precise route running and nifty moves after the catch. Some practice-squad kid, Blair White, performed a Collie impersonation when Collie was tired.

    "Peyton Manning is the Larry Bird of this era. I mean that as high, high praise. I’m not accusing Manning or the Colts of any kind of racism. Bill Polian, Jim Caldwell (and Tony Dungy) have surrounded Manning with players who mirror his approach to the game.

    "Race is not the determining factor.

    "A willingness to prepare and shared values, I believe, are the determining factors.

    I’m not going to get back into it today, but I’ve been writing for three years that baby-mama culture (no father in a child’s life) is going to cost African-Americans jobs in professional team sports. This summer, Ron English, the black head coach at Eastern Michigan, came under fire for admitting he’d prefer to recruit players who have fathers in their lives."

    The best offense in the history of the NFL might be the 2012 New England Patriots, led by quarterback Tom Brady. Throwing to a plethora of talented white receivers (Wes Welker, Rob Gronkowski, and Julian Edelman) and with criminally underused white running back Danny Woodhead, Brady offers NFL viewers the opportunity to deprogram from the decades of conditioning they have been exposed to: that only black athletes have the necessary "speed" and "athleticism" to participate in anything remotely considered 'legitimate' football.

    But with Peyton Manning in 2012 as the quarterback of the Denver Broncos, something different, much different is happening. Four of his five top receivers are white (Eric Decker, Brandon Stokley, Jacob Tamme, and Joel Dreessen); the latter two are both tight-ends, signed on March 23, 2012 just days after Manning signed with the Broncos. A month later, the 36-year-old Stokley would sign with the team.

    In August, two outstanding white veterans defenders - linebacker Keith Brooking and safety Jim Leonhard - would sign with the Broncos; a month later, center Dan Koppen - longtime center for Tom Brady - would sign with the Broncos.

    The culture of the team changed to reflect that of Peyton Manning. Back in 2010, Heath Evans - a white fullback - was signed by New Orleans. Having played the prior few seasons with the whiter-than-average-NFL-franchise New England Patriots, he told the New Orleans Times-Picayune this:

    "New Orleans Saints fullback Heath Evans has been in winning locker rooms, having played with the New England Patriots the past four seasons. Says Evans of the Saints, 'I made a lateral move when I left New England. I didn't take a step down.'

    "Culture is defined as 'the set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution, organization or group.'

    "The culture of a football team is basically the collective attitude of the players in the locker room and on the practice field.

    "Culture has been a trendy buzzword at Saints camp this offseason -- organizational culture, locker room culture, team culture.

    "Evans should know what a good locker room looks and feels like. He played the previous four seasons in New England, the model for positive locker-room relations.

    "'If you had to backtrack to one thing (in New England), it would be selflessness,' Evans said. 'You have some teams that are racially divided. You have some teams that are positionally divided. Some teams divided between offense and defense. Everyone has to buy in and be on the same page.'

    "Nurturing such an environment in the 'me generation' can be difficult. If not managed properly, the wealth and fame associated with the NFL can be hazardous to a locker room's cultural health.

    "'I believe the difference between winning and losing, between first and last place, is this much,' Evans said, holding his thumb and index finger an inch apart. 'Not every team has great leadership.'"

    What if the difference between winning and losing in the NFL is increasingly becoming measured by... what percentage of your team actually possess impulse control (i.e., not black)?

    What if Peyton Manning has figured this out, which might be the reason why Denver just signed Jacob Hester to a contract? A former LSU Tigers standout running back, the white Jacob Hester found himself a target of racial taunts in the majority black Southeastern Conference; one player asked why he wasn't playing for the Air Force Academy in a game, a strange racial putdown considering the highly cerebral nature a candidate for appointment to the Air Force Academy a person must possess.

    Must be why it's one of the whitest Football Bowl Championship (FBS) series teams....
    Peyton Manning, who has always been an on-the-field offensive coordinator, calling his own plays and then calling audibles into new plays based on defensive schemes, understands exactly what Heath Evans referred to about culture in the NFL.

    He didn't come back from a year layoff after neck surgery to play for an 8-8 team; he came back to win a Super Bowl. And, playing with players who possess the mental aptitude of teenagers (looking at you black America) isn't the way to make this happen.

    Just read this article about Brandon Stokley from the USA Today [Brandon Stokley knows it's good to be Peyton Manning's friend, 11-30-12]:

    "When Brandon Stokley canceled his 10-year anniversary trip with his wife to spend a week in February with Peyton Manning, neither the wide receiver nor the quarterback could have imagined what would come next.

    "How could they, back in February, have pictured that come November they'd be connecting for touchdowns during a run toward the playoffs with the Denver Broncos?

    "It wasn't for money (he signed a one-year deal for the veteran minimum), and it wasn't to chase a title (he has two Super Bowl rings, one each with the Baltimore Ravens and Colts). Stokley wanted one more chance to play alongside Manning, in the city Stokley has adopted as home now that his kids are old enough to remember it.

    "Stokley's sales pitch obviously worked, with Manning picking the Broncos over Tennessee, San Francisco and Arizona. When voluntary workouts began in April, Manning helped bring Stokley back to the Broncos. Manning told Denver's coaches what he saw from Stokley in their workouts together.

    "The Broncos needed a slot receiver, and they needed help in teaching a young receiving corps about what it would take to play with Manning. As Stokley began working with the first-team offense in practice not long after he signed Soon it became clear that Stokley had come back to contribute, not just to be a mentor to Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas or a security blanket for Manning.

    "'Brandon is one of my favorite teammates of all time,' Manning said. 'For a guy his age to be able to keep his quickness is pretty rare for a wide receiver. He can be a matchup problem for teams.'"


    You have to wonder if Stokley, like Peyton Manning and the Patriots white receiver Wes Welker, donated any money to Mitt Romney's campaign too (Manning and Welker both gave Romney $5,000 each -- the maximum amount)?

    It's hard to imagine what the NFL might look like were it not populated by players who are, to paraphrase Evans, "this close" to losing all control and being just another black criminal statistic, but instead by athletes like the ones Manning has chosen to surround himself with... well, maybe not so hard.

    Tom Brady appears to realize the formula to success as well.

    Americans have been so conditioned to believe that only black participation in a sport like football or basketball can qualify it is as "legitimate" that the sight of white athletes dominating on the Patriots or the Broncos is grounds for searching Google for stories like: "Is the Patriots Offense Racist", "Are the Patriots Racist," "Patriots White Offense Players."

    The real question should be: why do Americans tolerate watching a form of entertainment artificially dominated by the very people they do everything humanely possible to never have to call "neighbor"?

    http://www.castefootball.us/archives/peyton-manning-race-realist/
     
  2. davidholly

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    I don't know if Peyton Manning is a race realist so much as someone who doesn't tolerate mistakes. If you're making a lot of mistakes Manning isn't going to like you for very long, it just so happens that blacks are more prone to mistakes than whites. If Manning were the QB in Cleveland he'd have already got a bunch of their receivers cut.
     
  3. white lightning

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    Very interesting article. Thanks for posting it.
     
  4. Extra Point

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    I hope that someday a prominent player talks about the racism in football. Probably they would have to be retired and financially set.

    Manning is a Hall of Fame player. He could do it after he retires. Whether he would or not is another question. It would be hard to believe that he isn't aware of it.
     
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    I think we tend to give quarterbacks more credit for personnel decisions than they deserve. Bill Belichick (and probably other executives in New England) has been shrewd enough to give Tom Brady a playing environment in which he has been able to thrive. Bill Polian built the Colts to be one of the relatively White friendliest teams, which benefited Peyton Manning. This is what Jason Whitlock wrote about that Kersey's article quotes from. John Elway, and possibly John Fox, also are aware of the players that Manning works with well -- intelligent, reliable receivers.

    Manning will throw the ball to whoever starts. Pierre Garcon has physical talent but isn't a great route runner and has bad hands, which is why his completions per target in Indy were lower than those of Austin Collie, Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne. But he was a starter and so he received his share of targets.

    I don't think it's a conscious racial thing as if word of that got out, even from private conversations (which are no longer private in Amerika), it would be ruinous to all involved given the virulently anti-White agenda that all institutions and large organizations are forced to adhere to. My guess is that it's intuitive, and is also working well in Houston and Green Bay, and those NFL organizations that have the cajones to go that route in the face of a Caste System whose paradigm is for teams to be overwhelmingly black are almost always being rewarded.
     
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    If Peyton Manning is not a race-realist, it isn't because he did not grow up in an ideal setting from which to observe racial differences. He was raised in the Uptown Garden District of New Orleans, where fine homes and well-to-do families are surrounded by the urban blight created and perpetuated by negroes. His father had the means to shield his boys from having to turn wigger in order to get along. Poor whites caught in a black community often turn "vanilla gorilla" to try to fit in, which they hope will lessen the brutality directed toward them.

    The few blacks the Manning boys had to associate with were from the relatively intelligent subset of negroes; yet even then the behavioral and psychological differences are plain to see.

    Archie Manning came from a modest background in rural Mississippi. He quarterbacked some of the last all-white teams at Ole Miss. I believe Archie is a default race-realist and raised his sons that way, but also taught them to give themselves cover because of the insane race-liberalism that has a death grip on media, government and business.

    As a former Saints QB, entrepreneur, and broadcaster, Archie Manning was and is a big deal in New Orleans, from 1971 to present. Archie was a beloved figure in 1991, when Rep. David Duke was in a runoff in Louisiana's gubernatorial contest. So many establishment "leaders" piled on in condemnation of Duke; Archie did not. He remained publicly silent, though the pressure on him to oppose the Duke candidacy had to be tremendous! Peyton was a high school student at that time. Peyton watched and learned. He knows.
     
  7. Colonel_Reb

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    Deus, I hope you are right about the Mannings, but I'm not convinced. Archie said Mississippi needed to ditch the state flag back in 2001 and has been pushing political correctness at New Miss as well. You would think Archie knows the racial deal, but it seems he would have at least remained silent on a number of other issues instead of paroting the liberals.
     
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    I doubt very seriously that any professional athlete is much of a "racial realist". They would have to keep it all bottled up if they were. If anybody found out they wouldnt be allowed to be a professional athlete anymore. Peyton Manning seems to be more aware than most though.
     
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    Yeah, he has lent his good name to a few stupid causes in the last decade or so. That would make him not unlike most whites, even in the South, who are primarily level-headed but nonetheless beaten-down by the propaganda hammer. I bet Archie doesn't have a good core group of peers who are studied, aware race-realists. I bet he was never really innoculated by reading Carleton Putnam?

    A man can only take so much. Isn't that, after all what most of our brothers and fathers really are, victims rather than traitors? Most men are not wired to eternally resist without some level of peer reinforcement.

    And yet, when it comes to his family, I bet he still mutters under his breath, like Galileo.
     
  10. Extra Point

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    An excellent post with excellent points.

    White men need to start standing up for each other, giving each other support.

    The anti-whites want white men to feel that they're isolated so white men need to start banding together.
     
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    Of course we're beaten down by society and can benefit from interactions with other White men who think like we do. That pretty much goes without saying. A 63 year old White man who grew up in Drew and who played in the NFL should have enough negative experiences with blacks to make him mutter things under his breath, but that doesn't make him a race-realist. I grew up in the same area as Archie and I know a bunch of other Whites from the same area who are not race-realists. I doubt Archie is any different than them or any different than I was before my racial awakening. Even though his dad committed suicide when he was in high school, I don't see the need in making excuses for him. How do you know that there had to be a tremendous amount of pressure on him to speak out against Dr. Duke in 1991? He simply may not have been asked his opinion by the press. His recent actions speak for themselves, and I do not believe that a race-realist would do what he has done. I believe he has injected himself into these issues because he wanted to, not because he was pressured to do so.
     
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    Not that it matters one way or the other, I remember Archie being asked about the controversy surrounding Colonel Reb (the once Ole Miss Mascot not the renowned and controversial Col Reb of Caste Football) years ago. Archie stated that Colonel Reb wasn’t going anywhere. In other words, he felt the movement to get rid Colonel Reb was a losing battle. I detected in his speech that he was in favor of keeping the Colonel. I could be wrong.
     
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    Well the controversy started in 2003, which is when the administration dumped Colonel Reb. I haven't heard Archie Manning quoted as saying that before, Quiet Speed, but I have read that he hasn't followed the story closely but that he understands why it needs to go. By the way, New Miss didn't stop with just getting rid of the on-the-field mascot. Two years ago, they quit allowing licenses to be sold for any products with Colonel Reb on them. There are a few unlicensed products floating around, but they are trying to erase the memory of it completely.
     
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    Colonel, in 1991, when then- State Representative Duke was a gubernatorial candidate, the entire establishment rallied against him. They all had their rolodexes out, recruiting public figures to denounce the Duke candidacy. Archie was a New Orleans icon. No way he was not recruited. Black Saints players did not say much publicly; that had to be a strategic decision. Saints owner Tom Benson said a few mild anti-Duke words. QB Bobby ****rt (pronounced "A-Bear") also made a mild anti-Duke pitch, centered around a supposed plan for Duke to segregate 'Cajuns and others.

    I had a photo from a charity golf outing taken in Spring 1991, Duke and Archie. Lost it some time ago. Archie knew well who David was, and could easily have refused to be photographed with him. He wouldn't have had to be rude; he could have politely declined, and everyone would have understood.

    There are different levels of race-realism, differentiated by education. I'm not necessarily defending Archie, but he fits the profile of a man of his generation, who grew up understanding more about racial differences than most Yankees will ever know, but who achieved enough professional success to insulate himself from (not all, but) enough reality so as to make the constant egalitarian propaganda somewhat less objectionable. An educated race-realist does not need negative interactions with Negroes (or other races) to value his own race. I doubt the largely apolitical Archie Manning is well-read on the issue, other than breathing the putrid air of the liberal ruling class. I would wager he did not read Carleton Putnam as a young man, or Jared Taylor as an adult. With all the race-liberalism in business and sports world today, it's a wonder Archie has not gone full Jack Kemp!
     
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    One point to consider about said photograph is that when it comes to getting in trouble over matters of race, it would be much more difficult in 1991 than in 2012, even in a semi-high profile election like that.
    On the other hand, even though the C of CC is viewed negatively today just like Duke was in 1991, a number of elected officials have had some kind of connection to the organization without any serious consequences. Current U.S. Senator Roger Wicker spoke to a couple of C of CC groups in 2000 and he's doing fine.

    Yes, there are different levels of race-realists, and they come from all sorts of backgrounds and often behave in different ways. Even so, with such scant evidence to support Archie being a race-realist, I'm not ready or willing to acknowledge him as one.
     
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    If Trent Lott had stood his ground when the scandalous news of his kind words on behalf of Strom Thurmond were made public, when the horrifying news of his having spoken at C of CC events was made public, he would have been okay, too. The toothless hyenas who thought his offenses were self-evidelty offensive had nothing more than their own biases with which to bludgeon the spineless Lott.

    You don't see Bernie Sanders quiver when someone calls him a "socialist."
     

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