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Just to supplement the discussion and because we talked about Hillis and Evan Moore openly calling out this staff it looks like one of the affletes has joined in on their side: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/10/cleveland_browns_josh_cribbs_w.html

"I'm very insignificant on offense, so I need to be out there heavily on all special teams,"

A little background on Josh Cribbs: He's not your typical afflete, the guy is willing to play whatever you ask of him. He's been known to play WR, RB, backup QB, CB, placeholder, a gunner on S/T as well as a kick and punt returner. If you need a player somewhere he's more than willing to try hard and try to help out in that position and doesn't whine or complain that it isn't his job.

He's also been kind of a heat magnet when it comes to the Caste NFL. When he was coming out in the draft he played QB in College and was being hyped as a mid round quataback project. He drew alot of anger and dropped from draft boards inexplicably when he stated that he could care less what position you ask him to play, he just wants a shot at playing. If you wanted him to convert to RB or this or that he was fine with that and not married to the QB position. That pissed alot of NFL types off. We here know why.

The OTHER thing that drew him anger and still does as far as the Browns are concerned is he wouldn't join in with the crybabies like Seneca Wallace and openly praised and backed Eric Mangini. He refused to quit on him and was angry when Mangini was fired. There isn't a doubt in my mind it made the Caste Clowns positively LIVID that Cribbs and Lawrence Vickers(Their black former fullback who regularly praised Peyton Hillis and Eric Mangini) were out there praising the guy who was letting Whites play RB, WR and Safety as well as praising their White RB.

I bring all that up because on the surface it could look to some like just another spoiled afflete crying and whining like Randy Moss that it isn't the case. This staff isn't just losing the white players faith but some of the bruthas are joining up behind them in full support. Good I say.
 

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I don't recall him playing FB at the start. As a matter of fact he was given 4 or 5 straight running plays to start the game, then suddenly was out of the game. Then back in to catch a few passes. Then back out. Then seen on the sidelines trying to go back on the field to play while a coach kind of pushed him back and said no. Finally they let him back in as a blocking fullback for a play.

This is all bull****, all this coaching staff trying to make Hillis look like a pussy. Whatever happened to his hammy in the 3rd play as they claim it wasn't as serious as they made it, he wasn't limping and his play didn't diminish. In fact after this supposed injury he broke a 2 yard dump off for a 12-15 yard gain that was negated by illegal formation from one of the affletes.

This is on Shurmur and the morons running that team into the dirt no doubt and they're making it damn clear whiteboy isn't welcomed on their team anymore.

One of my theories on what could have happened is that Hardesty had a fit at the beginning of the season. He probably complained to the coaching staff that he should be getting more touches and that he's the better option. As always, his bruthas on the team supported him and the coaching staff had no choice to comply or face a team full of negroes that would just throw the season away if Hardesty wasn't the main guy. How many players on that team would go and say something in Hillis' defense? None!
 

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One of my theories on what could have happened is that Hardesty had a fit at the beginning of the season. He probably complained to the coaching staff that he should be getting more touches and that he's the better option. As always, his bruthas on the team supported him and the coaching staff had no choice to comply or face a team full of negroes that would just throw the season away if Hardesty wasn't the main guy. How many players on that team would go and say something in Hillis' defense? None!


I don't know about crying for more time when he was stuck on I.R. last season because he's a bum and wasted draft pick but i'm sure that was their plan all along. They made a fairly large trade during the draft to grab Hardesty and the front office did everything possible to keep Hillis buried on that depth chart last season including trading for worthless Mike Bell.

As to Hillis defense there are a few left but not many. I scratched my head during the offseason over a few things that now add up. First was their letting Lawrence Vickers walk in free agency. Why would you? He's one of the top blocking fullbacks in the NFL, he's young and he's according to his former coach an extremely hard worker. He also.... Was extremely effective at opening holes for Hillis, publicly backed Hillis last season.

The same goes for Abram Elam who is superior to TJ Ward. It didn't don on me until recently that he called Hillis an integral part of their team and credited him for a win.

Then there was the Jake Delhomme they were so eager to sign last season as a mentor to McCoy. He backed Hillis on the mic and likely in the locker room too.

I'm thinking so did Evan Moore, it's inexcusable and unexplainable why he is benched. Same with Cribbs who suddenly went from their only playmaker at WR to so underused that he's asking to just be a S/T player.

McCoy definitely was backing him last year, before he joined the front office in trash talking the prior staff and turned into a cheerleader for the affletes. Matter of fact the same thing happened with Alex Mack. Think the whiteboys that are left(aside from Hillis and Moore) got the hint and got the message?

I certainly do. Hillis HAD supporters in that locker room at one point as did Moore. They no longer do and their white brethren obviously know if they don't play the game they'll be joining Hillis on the bench or down the street as a back up. Heck, even the bruthas were included in that one(Elam, Cribbs, Yates, Vickers). Get with the Caste program or get to stepping.
 

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McCoy should be on Hillis' side. Supposedly the reason why he came back into the game with an injured hamstring was to pass block, he kept seeing Hardesty missing assignments and McCoy was getting laid out.

But like someone said, usually a tweaked hamstring you have trainers massaging it, on a bicycle etc.
 

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Mangini was actually fair to white players. I hope he gets a shot as head coach in the next year or two. Hillis is only 25 so he still as alot of tread left on the tires, I am sure Mangini would go out and get him right away.
 

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[h=1]Peyton Hillis MRI Confirms Injured Hamstring[/h] Oct 17 9:09p by Alex Boeder
Madden Cursed or not, MRI results on Sept. 17 confirmed that Cleveland Browns running back Peyton Hillis has an injured hamstring, but coach Pat Shurmer has not ruled Hillis out of the team's Week 7 game against the Seahawks.
Hillis is nursing a strained left hamstring, an injury Browns coach Pat Shurmur said happened on a carry in the first quarter of Sunday's 24-17 loss to the Raiders. An MRI taken Monday confirmed Hillis' injury, and Shurmur said it's too early to say he'll miss this week's game against Seattle.

"Those injuries can take a couple of days or they can take however long," Shurmur said. "But it's a hamstring injury."


http://cleveland.sbnation.com/cleve.../peyton-hillis-mri-confirms-injured-hamstring
 

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Browns coach Pat Shurmur tried to clear up a couple of things this afternoon in his news conference.
Running back Peyton Hillis was indeed injured Sunday in the 24-17 loss to the Raiders, and he isn’t on the trading block.

Hillis, who’s had a frustrating start to the season, injured his left hamstring in the first quarter. Shurmur said it was just a miscommunication that the injury wasn’t reported until well into the third quarter. The delay allowed speculation in the press box and on the Internet that he was being benched.

The league’s trading deadline is Tuesday at 4 p.m., but Shurmur said the team’s not looking to deal Hillis, who totaled 1,654 yards and 13 touchdowns in 2010.

Hillis felt a tweak in the hamstring early in the first quarter but continued to play into the second quarter, when he grabbed the back of his left leg on consecutive plays and was replaced by Montario Hardesty.

Hillis returned for two plays in the fourth quarter after telling the coaching staff he could help with blitz pickup, an area in which Hardesty was struggling. Hillis had an MRI today, and Shurmur said it’s too early to tell if he’ll be able to play Sunday vs. Seattle or how much time he might miss.

The drama hasn’t stopped this year for Hillis. He missed Week 3 with strep throat and on the advice of his agent, and admitted feeling unappreciated by the front office with the lack of a contract extension.

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/...yton-hillis-not-on-trading-block-was-injured/
 

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Chris Mortensen reported earlier today that the Browns were trying to trade Hillis, but now this. Holmgren might decide it's better to just keep Peyton and methodically turn him back into the blocking fullback who gets a few touches the league wants him to be.

I still can't see Hardesty staying healthy for long. . . not to mention he just isn't very good. From Weenieworld:

Updating a previous item, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports the Browns have told interested teams that they are "not interested" in a Peyton Hillis trade.
 

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it's heating up... rotoworld:

Contrary to previous reports, the Cleveland Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot hears the Browns "have no plans" to trade Peyton Hillis and "no teams are calling."

At least three national insiders have already reported that teams are indeed calling the Browns. Cabot is closest to the team, so this sounds like a last-ditch effort to see just how high of a price a desperate team may pay. As the Bengals showed earlier in the day, the right offer can't be passed up. NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora suggests the Lions could make a final-hour inquiry into Hillis
 

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Despite everything that has happened, I would still prefer to see him stay in Cleveland. I'm hoping that the contract can get done soon and he returns to full health. The team needs to stay behind this guy because he can help the Browns make the playoffs.
 

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He isn't going to get a fair chance in Cleveland as long as Shurmur and Holmgren are at the helm.

I would love to see Denver pick him up. How great would that be with Tebow, Decker, and Hillis as the starters? The fans would go nuts and fill the stadium to the hilt. The Bronco's management would very wise to pull this off, especially from a financial perspective. They could get Hillis relatively cheap and all three jerseys would be top sellers, providing icing-on-the-cake revenue.
 

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One of my theories on what could have happened is that Hardesty had a fit at the beginning of the season. He probably complained to the coaching staff that he should be getting more touches and that he's the better option. As always, his bruthas on the team supported him and the coaching staff had no choice to comply or face a team full of negroes that would just throw the season away if Hardesty wasn't the main guy. How many players on that team would go and say something in Hillis' defense? None!

Word going around has been Dallas is offering a 2nd rounder, RB Tashard Choice and an unnamed WR for Hillis so we'll see.

The question is would Dallas use him? I have to think if they're willing to make a big trade like that they would pay the man and use him as their feature back.
 

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Word going around has been Dallas is offering a 2nd rounder, RB Tashard Choice and an unnamed WR for Hillis so we'll see.

The question is would Dallas use him? I have to think if they're willing to make a big trade like that they would pay the man and use him as their feature back.

The Lions are supposedly interested as well. Jahvid Best is okay but he's small at 199lbs and if the Lions did acquire Hillis I could see him getting at least 15 carries a game on that team. Hillis could be the main back and Best the change of pace and third down back because he has more breakaway speed. The first game of the season best had 21 carries, then it went down to 16, 12, 11, 12, and 12 last game as well. They obviously are aware Best can't handle more than 10-12 carries a game. I can dream that another team would at least give him an opportunity can't I?
 

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Best isn't durable at all and suffered a concussion Sunday. Felix Jones is always getting hurt and was injured against the Patriots, so either team would be an ok landing spot for Hillis for this season anyway. However both drafted RBs in the early rounds in 2011. The key for Hillis if he's traded is to make sure he's paid starter's money by his new team.
 

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Well, the trade deadline has passed, so it looks like Hillis is stuck in Cleveland with Piggy Holmgren and Caste Water Boy Shurmer through the end of the season. He shouldn't sign for anything less than starter's money, whether with the Browns or another team.
 

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Another reason why Hardesty sucks. Hillis excels at all aspects of playing halfback, while Hardesty has hands of stone and can't pass protect.

RB Peyton Hillis (CLE) felt a tweak in his hamstring in the first quarter of the Week 6 game against the Oakland Raiders. He played into the second quarter, and then actually returned for two plays to help in pass blocking because Montario Hardesty was struggling so badly in protection.
 

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Browns sign RB Ogbonnaya

In the midst of all the Peyton Hillis drama, the Cleveland Browns went out and signed running back Chris Ogbonnaya off of the Houston Texans practice squad.

The Browns avoided signing Hillis to a new contract. Now they have no reason to even bother with him any more. Holmgren wins. The NFL wins. Once again, the NFL is purged of white runningbacks. Order is restored.
 

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the guy has been in the league for years and hasn't done squat. Its just a signing for depth. Hillis has a hamstring issue right now, Hardesty sucks and they waived Armond Smith who showed no improvement despite being fast. Chris had 3 carries for 6 yards this year, for the Texans. If you can't look average behind the Texan's line then you aren't going to do squat in Cleveland. He's 20 pounds lighter than Hillis but same speed. He didn't do much in college, played some fullback, some tailback and special teams.
 

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Don't make the mistake of thinking they care about performance.
If they did, they wouldn't have let Hardesty carry the ball at all this year.

Winning football games is not a primary concern of the Browns. Sticking to the negro-supremacy script is. I'm sure the commissioner's office will reward them for toeing the line. Perhaps with a Monday night game next season (which Cleveland hasn't had since Peyton has been there).
 

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http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/32833174Peyton Hillis isn't going anywhere

The trade deadline has come and gone, and still, running back Peyton Hillis remains in Cleveland. It’s unclear what his role will be going forward, but one thing is certain: Mike Holmgren wasn’t going to let him go. After his agent announced that he had told Hillis not to play when he was sick, Hillis hasn’t had much of an impact in the previous two Browns gameplans, and it seemed like he was on the way out.

Obviously, he wasn’t. But why?

“There was no way I was going to trade Peyton Hillis,†Browns president Mike Holmgren said, via the Cleveland Plain Dealer."Why would I trade one of our best players?"

Yes, whatever would give us that idea? How about the fact Hillis is only averaging eight carries and 30 yards during the past two games? How about the fact that, during a weird sequence in last Sunday’s game, Detroit said Hillis was on the bench because of a coach’s decision before saying he had a hamstring injury before he went back into the game(!)?

Even though it’s appeared that the Browns and Hillis are on the outs, Holmgren still talked about the potential contract extension that started this mess in the first place. He also told Hillis on Wednesday that the Browns want to keep him around.

“No one has called off contract negotiations,†Holmgren said. “Things are kind of quiet right now. Let's let the dust settle and see what happens.''




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He hasn't practiced all week, I think its pretty safe to say the Texan's guy was brought in for depth. Hardesty was used because they spent high draft picks on him. He was serviceable against the Dolphins when the box wasn't loaded and then did crappy the next week which is when they started using Hillis more, until the hamstring issue. Despite Hillis not practicing all week because of his hamstring, they are still not ruling him out for Sunday. It is clear that they need him for this season. He might get replaced, but it won't be this year. They will have draft a back in the 1st round with the hopes he can do something behind that awful line and horrible play calling, I haven't seen any backs that are coming out next year that can do that. I don't think they have him running in a pool as some sort of ploy. Yes they would like to replace Hillis, but there isn't anybody good enough and fans DO want to see results, they have been complaining about Hardesty, all it took was 6 drops, plus he didn't show any special skillset and fans noticed that. This new guy can supposedly catch but doesn't have any unique skillset. I bet they are hoping that Hillis stays injured. That is the easiest way out right now.
 

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The latest installment of the ongoing soap opera.

Browns president Mike Holmgren indicated Thursday that Peyton Hillis will be allowed to reach free agency in 2012. Holmgren ready to let the market set the price for their bell-cow running back. Hillis' original asking price was reportedly "extremely high." His agent has since come down from that offer, but the latest proposal "wasn't anywhere near what the Browns were willing to pay." At this point, Hillis appears more likely than not to hit the open market this winter.
 

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I would not expect anything less out of Walrus. I'm sure his plans for the 2012 draft have already been drawn up and include taking a black RB in the 1st or 2nd round as the starter.

His lapdog Schurmur is following the orders perfectly by limiting Hillis' touches and calling bad running plays with little chance to success to further advance this little scheme to damage Hillis' career as much as possible. I suspect the reason they didn't trade him was because if Hillis went to another team and performed well, they would certainly incur the wrath of the fans and the media, so that was never going to happen.

May they both rot in hell, while Hillis finds a new home in 2012, ideally in one of the more white-friendly cities, where he can hopefully excell for another 4-5 years as a premier running back.
 

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I did a quick google search to see if our favorite tailback was playing this weekend and I found a very odd story, but one that proves how quickly he's become a star in Cleveland after one great season (2010) and how much he's even adored by the DWF's.

Just to show you how popular this player that Caste clown Holmgren (and his little b!tch Schurmur) will soon run out of town....The Lingerie Football Football League has allowed Cleveland's team to let their white powerback wear number 40, even though players in the league are only supposed to wear numbers 1-20, simply in hopes of piggy-backing on his fame by creating a female version of him?

This team will play on MTV 2 tonight. I have never really watched the league, but I will tonight to see this woman run and hear how the retarded announcers talk about her and compare her to the real #40.


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