Peyton Hillis article from 2008

Discussion in 'NFL' started by Don Wassall, Oct 1, 2010.

  1. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2004
    Messages:
    23,424
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    This article was written by Caste Football's Jimmy Chitwood in August of 2008, after Peyton Hillis's senior season at Arkansas and before his rookie season with the Denver Broncos. Its analysis was proven to be right on the mark and is worth re-reading and passing on to others.

    How many other White running backs, receivers and defensive players have been denied the same opportunity to succeed that black football players routinely do? Peyton Hillis is but the tip of a very, very large iceberg of White football players who have been discriminated against that has been accumulating for 30 years and counting. Anyone who doesn't believe there's a Caste System in U.S. sports needs to read this.

    Heisman Candidate or Blocking Fullback? The Difference is Apparently Only Skin Deep


    by Jimmy Chitwood

    (8/22/08) As an avid student and fan of the game of football, I am constantly informed (or maybe indoctrinated) that talent wins football games. I am told that coaches recruit the best talent. And play the best talent. And that the best talent will always be put in a position to make plays regardless of virtually any other criteria. Talent is all that is important, and talent will always get the opportunity it deserves. Nothing else matters.

    Coaches, scouts, etc. get paid to win, after all, and not signing the most talented players and not giving said players the most opportunity would be foolish. They would lose their jobs if they didn't sign and play the best possible talent for their team! This I am told time and time again as if by mantra. These are stated as simple, and obvious, FACTS that everyone just knows are true, told to me in tones of shock and bewilderment if I question it, akin to my wearing a bikini in church.

    Yet I do have questions "¦ because the performances I see on the field don't make sense if the "talent"Â￾ thing is true.

    When trying to work out puzzles of this sort, I find that it makes things easier to understand if I compare things (players in this instance) that are similar, the more similar the better. In this scenario, if players are evaluated in the same manner, then similar players will yield similar evaluations/accolades/playing time/and so on. Many people might be surprised that this isn't how things work, neither in college nor professional football.

    In fact, there are often VAST differences in the treatment of players who are virtually identical "¦ except for one small difference.

    A case in point:

    Player A, as a high school senior, was 6-1, 220-pounds, and ran a reported 4.5 40. Player B, as a high school senior, was 6-2, 220-pounds, and ran a reported 4.5 40.

    Player A rushed for 2,134 yards and 27 touchdowns on 223 carries as a senior (9.6 avg.). Player B rushed for 2,631 yards and 29 touchdowns on 261 carries as a senior (10.1 avg.).

    Player A was a Parade All-American and one of the top prospects in the nation. Player B was a Parade All-American and one of the top prospects in the nation.

    Here is where things get interesting"¦ and confusing"¦ and troubling"¦because it is readily apparent that both of these athletes are incredibly talented. And physically, one could hardly hope to find two more similar athletes "¦ except for one evidently all-important difference.

    Player A is black and Player B is white.

    And thus, their careers take DRAMATIC turns when they enter the realm of college football and beyond"¦

    Despite the incredible similarities, Player A was considered to be an elite talent running the football as a tailback and is now considered a favorite to win the Heisman Trophy.

    Player B, on the other hand, was considered to be an elite talent "¦ as a blocker and was never given the chance to be a tailback. He was a fullback, you see.

    Player A is Chris Wells, and he plays for Ohio State.

    Player B is Peyton Hillis, and he played for the University of Arkansas.

    Let's continue the comparison, shall we?

    Wells, known for his powerful running style, played as a true freshman. At tailback.

    Hillis, known for his powerful running style, played as a true freshman. At fullback.

    Wells averaged 5.9 yards per carry last year as the featured back, behind a blocking fullback in an offense designed around him.

    Hillis averaged 5.6 yards per carry last year from his fullback spot without a lead blocker, while running from much nearer the line of scrimmage, and getting the majority of his carries in short-yardage situations. (As an aside, teammate and 2-time Heisman trophy runner-up Darren McFadden also averaged 5.6 yards per carry last season for the Hogs.)

    Wells is said to be an explosive playmaker and is most often compared to Eddie George, Maurice Clarett, and Jim Brown (an old school fullback). All of whom were featured backs despite not having elite speed. None were asked to be a regular blocker.

    Hillis is said to be too waaaaay too slow to be a featured back. So, since his freshman year, he has been forced to add weight and block almost full time.

    But let's take a close look at the speed thing for a moment "¦ Both players have a career-long run of 65-yard touchdowns. Both runs came against last year's NCAA Champions, the LSU Tigers. You can't ask for more identical comparisons, apples to apples, Buckeyes to Razorbacks.

    Take a look at each of the runs.
    Wells: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnuk4X6tajs
    Hillis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5alq9LRUNk
    Can you tell any difference aside from skin color? If anything, it appears that Wells is the slower of the two "¦ Interesting, huh?

    But there are significant differences in the two players despite their obvious similarities, differences that appear to show Hillis to be the more complete player. . .

    Wells is one-dimensional. In two years as the featured playmaker at OSU, he only has 7 catches for 37 yards. He has never been a factor in the return game. Nor has he ever blocked for another back.

    Hillis is multi-dimensional. Despite being miscast, he set school records for running backs in career receptions (118), receiving yards (1,195) and receiving touchdowns (11). And he was the Razorbacks top punt returner for much of his career, averaging over 10 yards-per return. And his talents are also unselfish and team-first. He also blocked for two individual 1,000-yard rushers (McFadden and Felix Jones) for the second consecutive season.

    So, draw your own conclusions. It's possible there is some "other"Â￾ explanation. It's possible that skin color "wasn't"Â￾ the determining factor. I guess anything is possible"¦ but if so, if I am wrong, I'd like to have those facts presented to me.

    And for anyone who says, "Why does it matter?"Â￾ Just consider a couple of reasons, amongst the many. Hillis has suffered both physically and financially for the position change. As a fullback, he has been forced to carry more weight than his body is designed for. He has endured more physical punishment due to the rigors of the fullback position. AND, compare the meager salary a 7th-round draft pick at fullback makes to what a 1st-round tailback gets in the NFL.

    Come to think of it, I'd say there are millions of reasons it matters.

    Original link: http://www.castefootball.us/viewarticle.asp?sportID=3&teamID=0&ID=23304Edited by: Don Wassall
     
  2. PhillyBirds

    PhillyBirds Mentor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2008
    Messages:
    945
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    One of my all-time favorites, and a brilliant piece of writing. Cheers to JC for taking the time to put such a terrific article together. This is the first article that I usually print out to show to friends and family to make them aware. Thanks, Jimmy!
     
  3. kre08

    kre08 Guru

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2007
    Messages:
    133
    Location:
    Ohio
    Excellent, excellent article JC.
     
  4. Electric Slide

    Electric Slide Mentor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2007
    Messages:
    1,016
    I think this article will be enshrined at the pro-football hall of fame after Hillis is inducted after a long illustrious career!
     
  5. white lightning

    white lightning Hall of Famer Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2004
    Messages:
    11,291
    Jimmy always writes great posts. It was his birthday yesterday so a happy birthday from all of us here as Castefootball to the great JimmyChitwood.
     
  6. Colonel_Reb

    Colonel_Reb Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    14,000
    Location:
    The Deep South
    A big second to that white lightning! A belated Happy Birthday to you JC! [​IMG]
     
  7. backrow

    backrow Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2005
    Messages:
    6,721
    Location:
    Spain
    ditto! happy birthday Kevin!
     
  8. DWFan

    DWFan Mentor

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2008
    Messages:
    741
    I hope you had a good one sir! I love your articles!
     
  9. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Messages:
    12,649
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Happy B-day JC!
     
  10. Jack Lambert

    Jack Lambert Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Messages:
    4,743
    Happy B-Day JC!
     
  11. Jimmy Chitwood

    Jimmy Chitwood Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2005
    Messages:
    7,566
    Location:
    Arkansas
    thanks for the kind words, gentlemen. [​IMG]

    i'm just glad to be part of the team. [​IMG]
     
  12. Toby Hillis

    Toby Hillis Guru

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    447
    The single best article to use as an "ice breaker" (for lack of a better term) when trying to convert DWFs. The thought process of the DWF after he reads itisusually "interesting...I see what you're saying...you cant really argue with that...are you sure its cause hes white..." then, BAM!! you hit em with the "Furr is murder(ed) article"--which, by the way,makes my blood just boil,always. Follow it up with JB Cash's "The Racial Caste System in Sports" which has a ton of great quotes...Ive found that that 1-2-3 punch usually sobers up the drunkest of DWFs--gets them thinking at least.
     
  13. foreverfree

    foreverfree Mentor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2004
    Messages:
    898
    Channel 11 in Baltimore on last night's early newscast showed in the sports segment one of Hillis's great runs against the Ravens last week. No mention of Hillis's name, and I forget what the topic was, but seeing it made me feel good. Good luck to Peyton today.

    John
     
  14. ToughJ.Riggins

    ToughJ.Riggins Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2006
    Messages:
    5,063
    Location:
    Ontario Canada
    JC, I remember when you wrote this article I was a little skeptical that you picked Hillis as the man to do it on- as I had seen little of this big "FB's" career at Arkansas. MAN WAS I PROVEN DEAD WRONG. At the time I thought you should have done the article on Gerhart. This article was kind of prophetic. A brilliant article and GREAT read! I think it could definitely convert some DWFs with a bit of brains in their heads who read it.
     
  15. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Messages:
    12,649
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Rotoworld states the obvious

    Jerome Harrison didn't play a single snap in Week 4 until the Browns lined up for a Victory Formation at the end of the game.
    <div ="s_pNewsTextMain">
    Harrison doesn't play special teams, so his insertion for a late-game
    kneel down was just pouring salt in the wound. Peyton Hillis has
    emerged as a workhorse, every-down back. Harrison is waiver fodder in
    re-draft leagues.


    </div>
     
  16. JReb1

    JReb1 Mentor

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2009
    Messages:
    838

    </cite>
     
  17. Toby Hillis

    Toby Hillis Guru

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    447
    This article and the Furr is murdered article is getting a lot of attention in other forums. It starts like this: some idiot starts a new topic in a randomforum linking Caste Football site (I assume all these people heard about it from theMSNBC piece). The idiot usually starts the thread with something like, "Haha, look at these idiots" and posts the Caste Football link. Thats when the tide slowly starts to turn against the idiot poster. Most of the people admit, at the least, that they know of the site and that they agree with a lot of what is said here. Then some idiot usually chimes in and calls the site and anyone that agrees with itracist. Then someone posts the Hillis followed by the Furr is murdered(told u it was a good 1-2 punch) article; people just cant argue against those two articles!

    Heres one discussion that I found interesting. I think all your guys hard work is starting to pay off.The tide is slowly turning!
     
  18. j41181

    j41181 Master

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2008
    Messages:
    2,344
    My utmost respect to Jimmy Chitwood, for his brilliant and well thought articles. With the way Hillis is performing now, it'll only further validate JC's posting points! [​IMG] [​IMG] Edited by: j41181
     
  19. SuperSpeed23

    SuperSpeed23 Guru

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2009
    Messages:
    281
    Location:
    Connecticut
    Didnt someone have a thread about 2010 being the best year ever for caste football? I think in the last month or so theres been more progress made against the caste system then ever before.
     
  20. Toby Hillis

    Toby Hillis Guru

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    447
    The last year has been the best I can remember since I was a little kid in the mid 80s! Toby, Duke, white WRs being drafted, Hillis and Woodhead...I think the internet is going to make what once would have been impossible; exposing the Caste system.
     
  21. Electric Slide

    Electric Slide Mentor

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2007
    Messages:
    1,016
    Absolutely! I've seen much more mention of the obstacles white RBs must overcome in all sorts of outlets in the last year than up than in all of history combined. We have the facts at our side, and this website is influencing things directly and indirectly. Now I go to articles not even mentioned on this site yet and people have posted anti-caste comments already! I never noticed that two years ago! The power of the internet is finally being realized. In truly free uncontrolled markets like the internet, white people are free to make their case, and people are exposed to things they ordinarily wouldn't see. The PTB don't like what's happening, but there is really nothing they can do about it now. With technology expanding exponentially, the Caste System may even be falling apart with increasing velocity. Facts and statistics don't support that in a 67% white country the NFL would be only 30% white, and 0% of certain positions. Just think, 20 years unless you lived the right markets wouldn't have known about Toby Gerhart probably until the bowl game, and we wouldn't have known that Duke was majority white until the tournament and just wouldn't have even known about Hillis until his first hundred yard performance, and would have assumed he was out of the league last year. And we still would not even know about Lemaitre.

    I know some on this forum believe that many in charge intentionally hold back white athletes, but in reality I think it was just a wave of pro-black and anti-white circumstances that have met to cause things to get out of control. I believe as the caste system is being exposed we will see the ones in charge are really just like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz, really someone who can't hold back white players once the truth is exposed.
     
  22. whiteathlete33

    whiteathlete33 Hall of Famer

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Messages:
    12,649
    Location:
    New Jersey
    The site traffic has gone up significantly from what Don said a while back. Maddow gave the site some great publicity. Obviously there will be some idiots who will agree with what she said but others will come to the site and realize we all speak the truth here.
     
  23. Guest

    Guest Guest

    "Anti-racism" means nothing but anti-white, never ever think otherwise.
     
  24. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hollis' junior year was marked by a change in duty as the Razorbacks began to utilize Mc Fadden and Jones as the feature backs.
     
  25. snow

    snow Mentor

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    920
    Well, Arkansas was the team most willing to give him touches, but no school considered him a tailback. Yes he lined up at fullback in high school, but many ranked tailbacks play in a high school offense where they are lined up at fullback, because high school offenses are diverse, plenty have a guy lined up so many yards and is the feature back. Dwyer was a fullback at Georgia Tech, nobody considered him a fullback prospect. Hillis only had 1 or 2 plays where he actually blocked. Matt Forte had a bigger blocking role than that, when his high school team ran out of the I, he would line up as a fullback and block for someone else. It was out of need because the other fullback quit, but Forte was the next best guy, and damn good at it. Why wasn't he recruited as a fullback? He was big, showed he could block and had great hands.

    Ive read that the Wildhog was originally developed with Peyton Hillis in mind as the guy to take direct snaps, but the coach is the one who wanted McFadden. Hillis wouldve been a beast running it, he can actually throw a little bit better than McFadden, its not that much different of a concept than Tebow running Meyer's offense, just that Hillis is more athletic and there would be more of an emphasis on running. And after the switch, who is to say that Hillis wouldn't have ran for 1,000 yards in one's role. Why not use the play where McFadden was taking the direct snap, Hillis as the dive back up the middle, with Felix Jones as the pitchman. No its not what happened, it was "hey Hillis we are willing to give you the ball here" when in reality it was using him until they found someone else, doesn't matter how talented the replacement would have been, Hillis wasn't going to be considered the feature tailback at Arkansas. Sure they put him at every other position, just not tailback. Nice try at trying to copy information from Wikipedia though. Hillis was blocking his sophomore season for jones and mcfadden, and was rarely used his freshman season running the ball, even then he was used more as a goal line back, Race appropriate position, just like fullback, tight end etc.
     

Share This Page