Pacquiao vs Margarito

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  1. white is right

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    Guys you may be both right. Both have gained a lot of weight and none of it has been fat. Floyd Fairweather was a 130 pounder and has fought as high as 150 pounds without an ounce of fat gained. Manny has also gone from 122 to 147 and not gained an ounce of fat and has retained his hand speed. IMO his foot speed has slowed a little bit.
     
  2. whiteathlete33

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    I'm not going to argue with you on this one, Whiteisright. My question is why go after Pacquiao, who helps as at least?
     
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    Maybe he bet on Margacheato, or the various Mexicans that Pacman has gobbled up over the last few years... [​IMG]
     
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    BTW, thanks FBD! Tomasz Adamek, Denis Boystov, and Wach are just waiting for a title fight! It seems a little too late since Gaye has signed to fight a Klitschko! [​IMG]
     
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    Hopkins needs to keep his racist mouth shut. The guy is borderline mentally retarded and anything he says should just be ignored. As far as being afraid to fight black fighters, last time I check Joshua Clottey is black.
     
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    I agree. He may have taken too many shots to the head.

    When asked about Clotty he said "Clottey is 'black,' but not a 'black boxer' from the states with a slick style."
     
  9. Westside

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    Bopkins is a bitter bitch, who is still mad that Super Joe Calzaghe slapped him around the ring for 11 rounds. He thought his black bravado BS would intimidate Joe, but Joe just laughed at him. Still remember when they had their stare down prior to their fight. Bopkins got close and invaded Joe's space. Not to be outdone, Joe rammed his nose into Bopkins face. Classic moment. The fight was over right there.

    F Bopkins, hope that Canadian fighter beats him good. Enough of this prick.
     
  10. whiteathlete33

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    Here is the article pt. guard was talking about. I'm going to post the whole thing. Check out the comments below as well.

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    Idec: Bernard Hopkins says Manny Pacquiao can be beaten
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    Bernard Hopkins
    has thrown a sucker punch at Manny Pacquiao, arguably the best
    pound-for-pound boxer in the world, claiming Pacquiao is avoiding
    fighting black boxers.

    "Floyd Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao
    because the styles [used by] African-American fighters â€" and I mean,
    black fighters from the streets or the inner cities â€" would be
    successful," Hopkins, who is African-American, told Fanhouse.com. "I
    think Floyd Mayweather would pot-shot Pacquiao and bust him up in
    between the four-to-five punches that Pacquiao throws, and then set him
    up later on down the line."

    Pacquiao's representatives tried over
    the summer to secure a fight against Mayweather, an African-American,
    that would've occurred Saturday night, but Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs)
    maintains he had no knowledge of his adviser, Al Haymon, negotiating on
    his behalf with HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg. Haymon has not
    commented publicly on the matter, but Greenburg has said they were
    trying to make the bout before Mayweather made it clear he didn't want
    to fight again in 2010.

    Pacquiao (52-3-2, 38 KOs) soundly defeated
    a black boxer, Joshua Clottey, on March 13 at Cowboys Stadium, eight
    months before he dominated Mexico's Antonio Margarito (38-7, 27 KOs, 1
    NC) on Saturday night at the same venue. Pacquiao has fought in four
    weight classes since 2008, but other than the possible fight against
    Mayweather there has been no clamor for Pacquiao to fight other
    African-American boxers.

    Hopkins discounted the Filipino
    superstar's victory over Clottey (35-4, 20 KOs, 1 NC) because Clottey, a
    longtime Bronx resident who's managed by Oakland's Vinny Scolpino, is a
    native of Ghana.

    "Clottey is black," Hopkins explained to Fanhouse.com, "but not a black boxer from the States, with a slick style."

    Hopkins,
    45, is preparing in his native Philadelphia for a Dec. 18 fight against
    Haiti's Jean Pascal. If Hopkins (51-5-1, 32 KOs, 1 NC), a former
    middleweight and light heavyweight champion, defeats Pascal (26-1, 16
    KOs) in their WBC light heavyweight championship match in Quebec City,
    Quebec, he'll become the oldest boxer in the sport's history to win a
    recognized world title.

    SUPER CUTS: Glen Tapia's handlers hope
    some of Pacquiao's superior skills rubbed off on Tapia when they trained
    together recently in the Philippines. Passaic's Tapia (8-0, 5 KOs)
    already has shown he has absorbed some of Pacquiao's philanthropic
    spirit.

    Tapia, 20, cut off his trademark braids this week and
    donated his hair to Locks of Love, a public, non-profit organization
    that provides hairpieces to financially disadvantaged males and females
    under 21 who suffer from long-term medical hair loss, due to various
    diseases. The West Palm Beach, Fla.-based organization uses donated hair
    to create high-quality hair prosthetics.

    "We're so grateful for
    the support," said Lauren Kukkamaa, Locks of Love's communications
    director. "We need help from everyone, from men and women. And it's
    always wonderful when we hear that athletes and celebrities want to get
    involved."

    For more information, visit locksoflove.org.

    E-mail: idec@northjersey.com</span>
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    Bernard Hopkins has thrown a sucker punch at Manny Pacquiao,
    arguably the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world, claiming Pacquiao
    is avoiding fighting black boxers.







    "Floyd Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao because the styles
    [used by] African-American fighters â€" and I mean, black fighters from
    the streets or the inner cities â€" would be successful," Hopkins, who is
    African-American, told Fanhouse.com. "I think Floyd Mayweather would
    pot-shot Pacquiao and bust him up in between the four-to-five punches
    that Pacquiao throws, and then set him up later on down the line."







    Pacquiao's representatives tried over the summer to secure a
    fight against Mayweather, an African-American, that would've occurred
    Saturday night, but Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs) maintains he had no
    knowledge of his adviser, Al Haymon, negotiating on his behalf with HBO
    Sports president Ross Greenburg. Haymon has not commented publicly on
    the matter, but Greenburg has said they were trying to make the bout
    before Mayweather made it clear he didn't want to fight again in 2010.







    Pacquiao (52-3-2, 38 KOs) soundly defeated a black boxer, Joshua
    Clottey, on March 13 at Cowboys Stadium, eight months before he
    dominated Mexico's Antonio Margarito (38-7, 27 KOs, 1 NC) on Saturday
    night at the same venue. Pacquiao has fought in four weight classes
    since 2008, but other than the possible fight against Mayweather there
    has been no clamor for Pacquiao to fight other African-American boxers.







    Hopkins discounted the Filipino superstar's victory over Clottey
    (35-4, 20 KOs, 1 NC) because Clottey, a longtime Bronx resident who's
    managed by Oakland's Vinny Scolpino, is a native of Ghana.







    "Clottey is black," Hopkins explained to Fanhouse.com, "but not a black boxer from the States, with a slick style."







    Hopkins, 45, is preparing in his native Philadelphia for a Dec.
    18 fight against Haiti's Jean Pascal. If Hopkins (51-5-1, 32 KOs, 1 NC),
    a former middleweight and light heavyweight champion, defeats Pascal
    (26-1, 16 KOs) in their WBC light heavyweight championship match in
    Quebec City, Quebec, he'll become the oldest boxer in the sport's
    history to win a recognized world title.







    SUPER CUTS: Glen Tapia's handlers hope some of Pacquiao's
    superior skills rubbed off on Tapia when they trained together recently
    in the Philippines. Passaic's Tapia (8-0, 5 KOs) already has shown he
    has absorbed some of Pacquiao's philanthropic spirit.







    Tapia, 20, cut off his trademark braids this week and donated
    his hair to Locks of Love, a public, non-profit organization that
    provides hairpieces to financially disadvantaged males and females under
    21 who suffer from long-term medical hair loss, due to various
    diseases. The West Palm Beach, Fla.-based organization uses donated hair
    to create high-quality hair prosthetics.







    "We're so grateful for the support," said Lauren Kukkamaa, Locks
    of Love's communications director. "We need help from everyone, from
    men and women. And it's always wonderful when we hear that athletes and
    celebrities want to get involved."







    For more information, visit locksoflove.org.







    E-mail: idec@northjersey.com





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    1. Friday November 19, 2010, 4:40 AM - Flip4life
      says:
      oh btw im a hard critic on manny pacquiao and im
      one of those flips who think mayweather probably would win against
      pacman, but since "IHOP" aka BHOP wants to pull the race card then he
      can take one in the ars. I do agree that Mayweather is the best
      "slickster" P4P, I mean look at all the people he ducked, you can't do
      all that without being good at being slick lol.



    2. Friday November 19, 2010, 4:29 AM - Flip4life
      says:
      I know Hopkins isn't talking. Didn't he got his
      ars whooped by a Euro white boy aka Joe Clazaghe? Oh btw Joe whooped
      Left Hook Lacey's ars too lol. Yo Hopkins, you get a big fat o'l "child
      please!" as Chad Occhosinco would say. hahaha Btw where all the american
      black boxers at in the heavy weight division? Fail!



    3. Friday November 19, 2010, 2:56 AM - CurlyJoe
      says:
      Rashad Holloway with his slick style just got
      beaten by another Filipino, Dennis Laurente. @Bernard Hopkins: It's not
      about race nor group of people, it is about the individual, get it.

      It is true though that some group of people develop some unique
      characteristics in time, such as "slickiness" as Bernard discussed in
      his interview that is attributed to African-American boxers, in this
      regard, speediness, powerfulness, durability and cunningness can
      characterize Filipino boxers as such are the attributes of Filipinos.
      Not a lot had surfaced to such popularity and success like Pacquiao due
      to the height disadvantage(Filipinos being under-nourished and somewhat
      shorter in height geneswise), typically fight in lower weight divisions.
      AND blacks as is somewhat taller in height, on bigger/heavier
      divisions.

      BUT a special breed in Pacquiao was able to penetrate the weight
      barriers, so then watch out, he's still on the climb per what he can do.
      :)
      It isn't about race anymore/"slickiness" on the ring, it's about who's
      most conditioned and who's got the bigger heart and BETTER boxer overall
      come fight time.
     
  11. DWFan

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    haha was that comment by you WA33? I don't even follow boxing but that was hilarious!
     
  12. whiteathlete33

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    No, DWFan. Unfortunately, I have been banned from NorthJersey.com for speaking the truth. The person who posted that comment claims to be Filipino.
     
  13. Westside

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    I guess the formula of American Negroes that are from the streets or inner city have been an utter failure in the last 10 years with a few exceptions. Bhop is a Bidiot. F'ing fool supreme and racists.
     
  14. whiteathlete33

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    Bernard Hopkins is a bitter, old racist. He's 45 now and has too look for ways to keep himself in the media spotlight so he reverts to his racist rants. What a pathetic human being. It must suck to be an old ex-con who will soon be broke and hanging around on street corners doing what he does best, absolutely nothing.
     

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