Number of non-white starters in European national team fixtures.

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  1. Parrot

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    England vs Switzerland 09/06/19

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    The 2011 census recorded that 85.4% of England's population was White, 7.8% Asian, 3.5% Black, 2.3% Mixed, 0.45% Chinese and 0.44% of another ethnic group. Yet in this starting line up about 63% are black or mixed race so they are way over represented, so the English manager and FA is pretty much saying black players are way better than white players. The strange thing is if black players were better, then African teams would be dominating on a international level but they don't. Pretty much all white teams like Germany, Italy, Croatia and Spain nearly always beat all black African teams.


     
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    Ireland persist with a black striker that can't score. 0-10 so far. Was nice to see France beaten the other night.
     
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    Yeah I think a few of the black french players have stopped taking their steroids now they have all got massive paying contracts after the world cup.
    Republic of Ireland started 3 black players in their last game against Gibraltar: Randolph, Robinson and McGoldrick. Striker McGoldrick is 0 in 10 but that doesn't matter promoting blacks in sports and entertainment matters more. The manager has probably been told he has to pick at least 1 ethnic player to start by the FA but preferable more. Graham Taylor England manager in the 90's was supposedly told not to pick too many black players by the FA, so if they were getting involved with stuff like that then it leads me to believe they are saying the opposite today.
     
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    Robinson another donkey up front that can't score in a month of Sundays. Sadly, our younger teams have a lot of non-whites. So, it will probably get worse, as will our results. The majority of young talent is white, and we will see a lot of them move this summer for big fees. Going to take a long time to eliminate us from football, in the way they have with some American sports.
     
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    I don't have any money invested in it either way, but if it were up to me, I'd 100% prefer to have a team that actually represented the racial composition of my country and lose every single time, than have one that is overwhelmngly Black, because history has shown time and time again that overwhelmingly Black soccer teams are thoroughly outclassed by those teams that feature a fairer number of Whites.

    Supposedly, teams are so darkened because "the best players play" but it's clearly a political dynamic because Whites routinely destroy the non White competition in all kinds of sports when Whites are actually given an opportunity, when the throngs of howling dindus and SJWs can STFU long enough to get distracted into a fat feminist soy coma. The "athletic White" doesn't suit the agenda, and Blacks tend to be melodramatic, entitled crybabies, so it's like sports are just given to them to make them stop their tantrums.

    The idea that England has majority Black ANYTHING is a disgrace and it's no wonder their empire fell apart, the way they cuck themselves out. America's next.
     
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    The weird thing is, if you looked at the 10 best players in the world right now, 9/10 would be white and it's been like this for years. Messi, Ronaldo, Modric, Greizmann, every world class Goalkeeper, Hazard, De Bruyne, Lewandowski, Kane, Suarez, Aguero, etc. There are no reasons for any European nation to have a team with a majority of black players UNLESS there's an agenda being pushed.
     
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    A full native Greece team and full native Spain team won the Euros in 2004, 2008 and 2012. Italy and Spain won the 2006 and 2010 world cups with a squad filled exclusively of white native players. Germany won it in 2014 with around 85-90% native players, one African in the team and 2 Turkish players. You don't even need to have a mixed/"diverse" team to win. So during a 10 year period only one African player won an international/European title. Despite France and England constantly playing majority African starting XIs during this time.

    During this 2004-2014 period the 'diverse' French and English teams constantly unperformed. In 2010 the whole French team mutinied and one player was sent home and banned for life from the national team. France has looked a lot better in recent years but a lot of that has been down to the play of Griezmann. He was the best player of the 2016 euros (finishing top scorer and won the award for player of the tournament) and one of the best (certainly France's best) during their world cup win.

    Croatia were also cheated in the final by a disgraceful VAR penalty call that gave France a 2-1 lead heading into HT. Croatia had played an extra 90mins over the last 10 days because every one of their knockout games had gone to extra time. Due to this in the second half France simply had more energy and were able to score 2 goals on the counter attack. Without the penalty Croatia could've dominated possession and saved their energy instead of having to chase the game down 2-1.
     
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    A solid point, but if you will allow me to sperg a minute, Luis Suarez is not at all white
     
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    Spain's squad in the recent round of qualifiers featured 21 Spaniards and two Brazilian mulattoes Thiago and Rodrigo. They're both 28 and are not guaranteed starters, and are either prone to injuries or dips to form.

    Italy's squad had 21 Italians. Also included were the Brazilian Jorginho who has some Italian heritage and the half Egyptian/Italian El Sharaawy who plays in China and has a tenuous place in the squad.

    Germany's squad in the recent qualifier against Estonia had 16 Germans, 2 blacks, and 3 Turks (Gnabry, Tah, Amiri, Can, Gundogan). Gnabry has made a big impact in his appearances and Gundogan has been a fixture in the side. Black winger Sane is injured until early 2020, and it's likely that Gnabry and Sane will start for Germany in Euro 2020.

    I would say that Spain, Italy, and Germany are painfully average at the moment. They don't have a Ballon d'or caliber player to grab by a game by the scruff of the neck. Belotti and Immobile for Italy, Werner for Germany and Morata for Spain are decent enough players but are a million miles away from a Kane or Lewandowski. While Germany's great black hypes Gnabry and Sane don't have the ruthlessness and mental strength to be world-class.

    Even Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland have blacks contaminating their national teams. The Sweden vs. Norway qualifier in September featured 20 Swedes, 1 Arab and 2 blacks Robin Quaison and Alexander Isak for Sweden. Norway had 17 Norwegians, 2 Arabs Aleesami and Elabdellaoui, and 4 mixed blood blacks King, Gabrielsen, Johnsen, and Grytebust. Denmark's qualifier in September featured 19 Danes and 4 mixed blood blacks Jorgensen, Billing, Braithwaite, and Poulsen. Even Finland in its qualifiers this month featured 21 Finns, a mixed blood black Pyry Soiri and straight out of the Congo Glen Kamara. Denmark's population is about 87% Danish and an additional 5% consists of other European migrants. There are only 5,000 people from Nigeria, Ghana, and Cameroon living in Denmark, yet somehow nearly 20% of Denmark's national team is currently composed of blacks.

    Against Serbia in September, Portugal had 19 Portuguese players and 4 blacks: RB Nelson Semedo and midfielders Danilo Pereira, Renato Sanches, and William Carvalho. With Andre Gomes returning from injury, he should be expected to knock out one of the midfielders from the team. Overall, Portugal may have up to 20 Portuguese players on the squad in Euro 2020. And I think that with the experience that Ronaldo, Moutinho, and Pepe bring together with exciting younger players like Bernardo Silva, Joao Felix, and Ruben Neves, Portugal should be favorites for defending their European championship and knocking out that ugly France team.

    French football is literally and figuratively in a dark age right now. Not only that, but they are contaminating football clubs across Europe by exporting big, brainless players like Kurt Zouma and Tiemoue Bakayoko. I do not see a potential French superstar in his early 20s at the moment, no one to follow in the footsteps of Griezmann, Ribery, Zidane, and Platini. France don't even have a French goalkeeper at the moment to take over from the aging Hugo Lloris. The only bright spots of French soccer right now is the development of a few world-class defenders in Laporte, Lenglet, Pavard, and Lucas Hernandez. In qualifiers played this year, Deschamps has selected only 6 or 7 French players. At the same time, Deschamps appears to understand that he has to depend on at least 4 or 5 French players in his starting lineup and that he cannot solely rely on blacks. In Euro 2020, Deschamps will probably only select 7 French players: Giroud, Griezmann in attack, Lloris in goal, and Lenglet, Hernandez, Pavard, and Dubois in defense. While some other French players Laporte, Rabiot, Digne, Thauvin, Lecomte are on the fringes of the team and it's possible Deschamps will call on them.

    Holland are a far cry 2006-2014 golden age led by Sneijder, Robben, van Persie, Kuyt, and Huntelaar. In the recent qualifier against Northern Ireland, Holland had 12 Dutch and 11 blacks. They do have some serious gems with midfielder Frenkie de Jong and defender Mathijs de Ligt who are already among the best players in the world at their positions. But their attack is overwhelmed by flashy, ineffective black wide players such as Depay, Bergwijn, Promes, and Malen, who together aren't good enough to shine Robben's boots. Holland interestingly have several white strikes in Luuk de Jong, Bas Dost, Wout Weghorst, but their attributes are limited to aerial prowess and poaching in the penalty box.

    England has progressed considerably with results with the emergence of Harry Kane and the improvement of Sterling in the last 2 seasons, and I find that they can be contenders for Euro 2020 if those two remain in hot form. Southgate in recent qualifiers picked 12 Englishmen and 11 blacks. Unlike France, England do have some exciting emerging talents with Declan Rice, Mason Mount, Jack Grealish, James Maddison, Ben Chilwell who have been excellent so far this season. It seems that in England, there is an unwritten rule that a right-back must be black. You'd have to go all the way back to the World Cup in 2006 when England last had an Englishman start at right-back.

    In the recent qualifier against Kazakhstan, Belgium featured 17 Belgians, 5 blacks, and the Arab Chadli. And there are genuine superstars from Belgium with Eden Hazard, de Bruyne, Mertens, and the world-class CB pair of Vertonghen + Alderweireld. The one strange outlier with this squad is how all of their strikers - Lukaku, Batshuayi, Benteke, and Origi are straight out of the Congo, and they only combined for 22 league goals in 2018-19.
     
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    Wow, A+ first post. I love European soccer but don’t post on the subject too much. I really appreciate the update.
     
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    Germany is one of the best national teams in the world again and likely to be one of the two favorites to win the upcoming Euro and World cups. Kimmich is world class and an excellent leader as are Reus and Suhle when healthy.

    They’ve got an incredible youth program and developmental system which is showing on the National team again. Sané can’t be counted on so I expect him to law out at some point while Werner and others pick up the slack.

    Havertz is on the verge of breaking out as a world class player as is Lukas Klostermann, excellent talent with speed at fullback. Numerous other young players with speed and talent waiting their time to shine for Germany.
     
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    We'll see what happens with Sane. He last started a match in April 2019 and perhaps his career has already peaked. Guardiola did not especially fancy Sane, as there were often questions about his attitude and fitness.
     
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    Yes, that’s my opinion on Sané too. Talent wise, he’s far from peaked but his attitude has been ****. Honestly, I’m surprised Bayern has wasted their time signing him. It makes me wonder if Kingsley and Serge put the pressure on. But as far as Sané and the national team, he won’t be missed if he flops.
     
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    The Bundesliga is increasingly cosmopolitan and I question whether this environment will allow young German players to prosper. I also don't see a lot of German players moving abroad, the way Portuguese and French players are

    At the back, Germany have Sule and Ginter at CB. Unfortunately, there's also Rudiger who has some 30 caps for Germany, as well as another black Jonathan Tah. There's also Robin Koch in Freiburg, and hopefully he can force his way onto the team. But it's disappointing to see that these caste-like tendencies rampant in France and England have infected Germany during the last 10 years or so.

    At full-back, Robin Gosens is developing into one of the best in the world at his position. He should be favored to start on the left. On the right, there's Halstenberg. Though perhaps Kimmich may play on the right, I'm not really sure what his set position is.

    In midfield, Germany still have Kroos. Other options are Goretzka, Draxler, as well as younger players like Neuhaus, The Turks Emre Can and Gundogan are in the pecking order as well.

    In the last 12 months, the stock of Werner and Havertz have risen rapidly and they're surely among the best players in their age group at the moment. There's also Julian Brandt and Marco Reus, though they both play centrally lately, and I don't know if they can fit in the same lineup together. It doesn't appear that Germany have a pure winger at the moment to displace Sane and Gnabry if they're fit and healthy, two players that I believe are far from world-class at the moment. They're about a million miles away from grabbing a game by the scruff of the neck like a Robben or Ribery.
     
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    Spain appear to be safe from any non-Spaniard coming into their team. The great hype Adama Traore had a lot of buzz around him last winter, though during the restart, he has been unimpressive, having scored only 1 goal in calendar year 2020. Thiago also faces a lot of competition for his spot from younger midfielders like Mikel Merino, Fabian Ruiz, Marcos Llorente, and Dani Ceballos. Rodrigo also faces a challenge from Ferran Torres and Oyarzabal.

    Domenico Berardi's impressive season in Serie A should keep Sharaawy far away from the Italian national team.
     
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    In my opinion, you’re definitely mistaken about the Bundesliga on both points. The atmosphere at games is great and the the league develops young players at a high rate of success. They usually prefer to stay in Germany verses leaving because of the quality of play and the great game atmosphere. Higher salaries will take a few away this year and next but for the most part the Bundesliga will continue to be arguably the best league in the world...at worst top 3 in any year.

    Yes, I’ve pointed out the quality of talent on the German national team. Btw Ribery nor Robben took control of anything over the past several years in the sense you’ve mentioned but nonetheless they were excellent players though Robben blew countless goal opportunities in key games. However Sané and Gnabry don’t need to be R n R. The supporting cast is strong and the defense should be better than the last two world cups on the back line...save Neuer because he was playing at an all time high in Brazil.
     
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    Tah is getting very little traction these days and the backbone of the defense will be Shultz, Hector, Klostermann, Suhle, Stark, Ginter, Halstenberg and Kehrer getting a lil time. It appears Koch has impressed Low and Rudiger May be the token. Low loves Kimmich at midfield but I’d love to see him lock down the outside. Gosens would be a great addition but some thinks he’s gonna play for Netherlands. We will see soon enough.

    With Werner, (Reus euro 21 team?), Brandt, Gnabry and a right minded Sané...goals won’t be any problem at all especially considering the incredibly high quality at midfield. I’m sure there are players I’m not mentioning like Waldschmidt and more...
     
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    Deschamps still continues to select an overwhelmingly black bunch of players. 13 out of 23 his players in the latest squad are black, 2 are Arab, and 8 are white.

    He has two black goalkeepers Mandanda and Maignan, though Hugo Lloris is far ahead of them both in the pecking order.

    In defense, he has selected Raphael Varane, uncapped CB Upamecano, PSG's token homegrown CB Kimpembe, and Real Madrid LB Ferland Mendy. Deschamps has also gone with Clement Lenglet in CB, Lucas Hernandez and Lucas Digne in LB, and RB Leo Dubois. I believe Pavard is currently out injured, while Deschamps continues to ignore Aymeric Laporte.

    He has gone with 5 black central midfielders: uncapped Angoloan-born teenager Camavinga, Kante, Sissoko, and Nzonzi. Also selected was Adrien Rabiot.

    In attack, he has selected Mbappe, Martial, and winger Ikone. Florian Thauvin should be favored to knock out Ikone once he returns to full fitness. Also selected were Giroud, Griezmann and the Arab Aouar.
     
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    In England's latest squad, 13 out of 24 players are white.

    Southgate selected 3 black fullbacks Alexander-Arnold, Walker, and Trippier and Joe Gomez and Tyrone Mings at CB. I think both Luke Shaw and Ben Chilwell are out injured.

    In midfield, he has selected black player Kalvin Phillips.

    His attack contains Tammy Abraham at striker. And out wide, there are Marcus Rashford, Mason Greenwood, jadon Sancho and Raheem Sterling. Curiously absent from attack are Jack Grealish and James Maddison, and it's remarkable that Vardy has been left out over an erratic Tammy Abraham.
     
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    Germany's latest squad contains 15 native Germans, 3 Turks Suat Serdar, Emre Can, and Ilkay Gundogan, as well as 4 blacks Jonathan Tah, Thilo Kehrer and Antonio Rudiger in defense, and Leroy Sane in attack. Bayern players Kimmich, Goretzka, and Gnabry were left out so they can rest.

    The selection of Kehrer is poor one, this guy has been a massive flop at PSG. And it's disappointing that Germany isn't producing commanding, intelligent CBs with great leadership roles so that mediocre players like Tah and Rudiger wouldn't be in the squad.
     
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    Spain has blackened up a bit, which is disappointing to see. Their squad contains 21 Spaniards, 2 mixed Brazilians Thiago and Rodrigo and 2 blacks Adama Traore and Ansu Fati.

    The selection of Adama Traore is a disappointment, as this player is completely odds with the Spanish style of soccer, marked by elegance and finesse. He's a low IQ player who has nothing but speed and perhaps drug-induced power.

    Ansu Fati hasn't really accomplished anything yet, and if Barca wasn't a chaotic mess right now, there'd be no way this guy would be playing for them.

    Rodrigo's continues to be selected, though this player hasn't really done much in club football, and I question whether he will continue to be selected with Morata, Gerard Moreno and some other players available.
     
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    Vardy retired unfortunately. He's comfortably better than Rashford and Abraham.
     
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    Portugal has selected 21 Portuguese players, 1 Brazilian Pepe at CB, and 3 black players Nelson Semedo at RB, and Renato Sanches and Danilo Pereira in midfield.

    I think that this is the team that should be supported in this site and is our best chance to eliminate France or prevent a heavily black England from winning the next European cup.

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    The Dutch squad for upcoming matches comprises 12 Dutch players, 10 blacks and 1 Arab.

    I'm not terribly impressed with this bunch of players.

    It appears that the only truly world-class players the Dutch have at the moment are Frenkie de Jong, Mathijs de Ligt and Virgil van Dijk.

    In defense, Nathan Ake is 25 and has spent his career in relegation-level EPL clubs. Watford and Bournemouth. 20 year-old left-back Wijndal is repalcing the injured Daley Blind. Dumfries is a 24 year-old full-back who's been in the Dutch league for his whole career.

    In midfield, Leroy Fer is 30 and has spent his career in relegation-level clubs QPR, Swansea and Norwich.

    In attack, Ryan Babel has spent much of his career at 3 different Turkish clubs and has only made 1 substitute appearance in an international tournament. Memphis Depay is one of the worst signings in Man United history. And Quincy Promes' career is limited to Holland and Russia.
     
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    Refugee Invasion is taking its toll on The "National" teams.
     

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