Nils Lofgren on Vick

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  1. Bart

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    Apparently DWFs don't agree with Lofgren. Vick LEADS voting for the pro bowl.

    Thursday, December 2, 2010
    Updated: December 3, 5:55 PM ET
    Vick incites outrage amid cheers

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    By Nils Lofgren
    Special to ESPN.com


    An open letter to the men and women of the sports reporting community,

    I am so disheartened and disappointed by your collective, lopsided praise of Michael Vick due to his recent spectacular on-field performance.


    Michael Vick served his time for a federal dogfighting charge, but some still question the logic behind his reinstatement to the NFL.

    Jemele Hill stated on ESPN's "The Sports Reporters" that if Josh Hamilton could win one of baseball's MVP awards after recovering from alcohol and drug abuse, why couldn't Vick win the award in the NFL? Well, for one thing, Hamilton has neither tortured dozens of dogs nor murdered defenseless animals.


    I do not know what is in Michael Vick's head or heart. But in a recent ESPN interview, and elsewhere, he stated that while he was committing these heinous acts of cruelty, it never occurred to him that he was doing anything wrong.

    What a chilling, telling statement.

    In Vick's case, I believe his second chance should certainly allow him to be free and to love and raise his family. I think he should make speeches about the error of his ways and help animal groups. I understand that he is doing some of these things and I applaud that. He's also admitted to being haunted by his dogfighting days. That growth is welcome and necessary, but comes too late for me and those dogs.

    I support his right to earn a living. But, while I can't fault him for taking great advantage of the opportunities afforded him by playing in the NFL, I feel he does not deserve that lofty a place in our society and culture. However repentant he may be, he committed acts whose vileness will resonate down the years. When you do what Vick did, a second chance should never include the rare gift of an NFL career and the potential bounty it offers.

    Shame on the NFL for not banning him permanently.

    How can we justify this saga to our children?


    The fighting is bad enough. But when the dogs aren't up to their standards of violence, they'll beat the dogs against walls until they're dead, hang, electrocute or drown them.

    And if the schedule is too busy for torture that day, they'll just shoot them dead as the poor dogs gaze desperately into their eyes for just one moment of love or kindness. But love is one thing those dogs are forever and viciously denied.


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    When you do what Vick did, a second chance should never include the rare gift of an NFL career and the potential bounty it offers.

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    In addition to forcing the dogs to fight, Vick and his cohorts bred the dogs. A butcher is often called in to rip out the teeth and nails of these innocent canines, making it easier to chain them to what is known in fighting circles as a rape stand to be forcibly mated -- cultivating only fear, rage and hate in these blameless creatures. All of that to create more fighting dogs whose lives will just repeat a cycle of unspeakable suffering.


    Well kids, although doing those things is wrong, two years after you admit to doing them the NFL will let you have a job that may lead to an MVP award and many millions of dollars in a new contract.

    Parents are already dealing with a society seemingly gone mad. We have many troubled kids in our country. Some of them act out by hurting animals, themselves and others in various ways. How do we square our interest in saving children when they can clearly see this kind of evil behavior, for some, is only a big bump on the road to fame, fortune and glory?

    Truly frightening.

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    I am a giant sports fan. However, the cynic in me thinks maybe if Vick were a third-string lineman, the NFL would have set an example and banned him for life. Maybe many of the other significant charges Vick was facing wouldn't have gone away if he didn't have the prestige of being an NFL quarterback who can afford high-priced lawyers to wrangle pleas and deals.

    For the NFL to be that forgiving of evil, vicious behavior is a terribly inappropriate act of forgiveness and has brought a sick, sad, dirty feeling to many of us fans who have loved the game for so long.

    And to you reporters, whom I enjoy and respect, the sentiments in this letter are suspiciously absent in your hundreds of hours of Vick coverage.

    Recently, on another edition of "The Sports Reporters," Mike Lupica said that this Vick issue spoke to the shallowness of the pro sports world.

    Wow! Three seconds versus hundreds of "Vick's so great!" hours. Way to go! Just because the NFL lost its spine and common sense on this matter doesn't mean you reporters have to get in line and go along.

    Sincerely,

    Nils Lofgren
     
  2. TorontoArgos

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    I am also shocked by the nearly universal love for Vick.

    Just a couple short years ago, many of these same people were hoping for Vick to serve time behind bars. Now, the Vick bandwagon is out in full force.

    And just when we thought the Black QB experiment was finally nearing its merciful death. Probably 50% of NFL teams are starting scouting for their own Michael Vick.
     
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    I wish he was dead. So far as I know psychopathy can't be reversed. If it can, it certainly wouldn't be effected in a prison.
     
  4. whiteathlete33

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    That's why they are called DWF's. They seem to forgive and forget when it comes to affletes and their crimes.
     
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    At some point in time, ConVick will display his TNB and self destruct. Saint Dungy will not be able to guide his charge forever. A lion doesn't loose it's stripes, and ConVick will be wearing his again.
     
  6. Liverlips

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    These are the same black racists and DWFs who will never forgive John Rocker for a non-PC joke or Bill Romanowski for fighting back and beating up blacks who attacked him.
     
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    DWFs are a minority, maybe vocal, but their excess allows us to drub them with out mercy when they spew their hateful streotypes.
     
  8. SeaJim

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    Trust me, when ConVick slips and falls the Philly phans will throw him under the bus. The Eagles phans are desperate for a SB. After years of mediocre football with McNabb, they will take a ConVick as he has defied the odds till now. The Dallas game this Sunday should be a good one and all eyes will be on Vick to see how good he really is...or not...?
     
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    I sure hope you are right, SeaJim. I don't know how much more of this Vick worship I can take. It's a situation like this when an ex-con, who was very mediocre his entire career and then suddenly comes back in the NFL and plays at a high level that make me wonder. Maybe BigUnreal's posts aren't so far-fetched.
     
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    [​IMG] Indeed...only a matter of time.
     
  11. SeaJim

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    I think since the loss to the Bears, the Vick worship has subsided a bit and has return to earth levels. I don't have his stats to compare with others but he is an average QB at best. The Eagles got past the Texans and Cowboys but not by much. The game this weekend with the Giants will be close and could go either way IMO. Vick is no Tom Brady that is for sure and I like the Eagles too.
     
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    I would like nothing more than to see QB Dog Killer struggle and eventually end up where he belongs, in the gutter. I expect him to screw up in the playoffs.
     
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    Pink is another music artist who criticized Vick. Ms. Pink tweeted, "wow. michael vick in MY hometown, Philly. of all the places. I hope the fans tear him to pieces like his beloved dogs."
     
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    Gotta love Pink. She called out the racist Kanye West after he snatched the microphone from Taylor Swift. A white woman with some guts. All you cowardly white men need to take note.
     
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    Vick, not Tom Brady,is leading fan polls as the league MVP, despite not starting games at the beginning of the season when Kolb was starting, and later being injured for a few games. So much for all the "racist" fansand animal lovers. The media-cued, black worshipping DWF hive mind is still as strong as ever, once again in love with their "redeemed" dog killer.
     
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    That's because the DWF's have very short memories when it comes to black athletes. Blacks can be convicted of any crime, manslaughter, selling drugs, and assault. As long as they help their team "win" the DWF's will forgive and forget.

    There was even an article by some idiot a few days ago regarding Vick getting a dog in the future. The moron said it would probably be a good idea and help him redeem himself.
     
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    They have short memories of course, but theywere never ingenuine"hate mode" to begin with. If it had been Matt Jones or any White football player running a dog fighting operation. . . well, it doesn't even need to be said. Vick was welcomed with open arms in Philly -- whose DWFs are supposedly the "meanest" of any -- and hardly booed or taunted when he played on the road last year and this year. It seems to be impossible for most American Whites to genuinely dislike any black athlete no matter how despicable they act on and/or off the field of play.
     
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    I recall a sentence in a Sport Magazine article 40-odd years ago. It went something like, "Playing quarterback for the Eagles makes you a target for every loud-mouthed malcontent in Philadelphia."

    As you know from my posts, I have a very LONG memory.
     
  19. Deadlift

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    Vick's body is not going to last..

    When it comes to this week's game against the Giants, I'm not so much interested in who wins, but rather that Vick gets knocked-around.. and gets that much closer to breaking.

    In a sense, the Eagles' might be prudent to start Kolb for the last 2-weeks of the season, which includes another game against Dallas. If not, they may lose their "Supaman."
     
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    Vick and Fat Bastard are whining that Vick is being treated unfairly by the referees, that he routinely absorbs "vicious hits" that are called when other QBs are hit but not Mikey. Yeah, that's the ticket,the most coddled and kid-gloves-handled player since Kordell Stewart isbeing treated "unfairly" by the NFL. Guess it won't be long until that turns into the obligatory claim of "racism."

    Vick, Eagles want equal protection on illegal hits

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/12/vick-eagles-want-equal-protection-on-illegal-hits.html
     
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    A writer for Yahoo sports, in a mostly fluff piece, dares to criticize Saint Vick. The Drunk White Fans, like mindless drones mostly parroting the same statements over and over, proceed to tear the writer a new one in the comments below. Most call for the writers firing. If anyone feels like raising their blood pressure today here's the link.
     
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    Convick sure is an arrogant piece of trash.




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    I don't think I have ever heard of an athlete recommend himself for the MVP, it's another sign of just what kind of a person that Vick guy is. Talk about breaking one of the primary taboos of sports behaviour. There have been a lot of ego inflated buffoons in sports, but this guy takes the top spot.
     
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    He sure does Jaxvid! Did you think he was going to say Brady should be the MVP?[​IMG]
     
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