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  1. Leonardfan

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    The Cowboys have apparently offered a contract extension to Dak Prescott. Amazing how these teams have their blinders on. Prescott struggled when the admittedly good Ezekiel Elliot was not playing behind their dominant offensive line (which has gotten a little worse every year since 2016. I hope the Cowboys dump money into the mediocre Prescott. Word is that Amari Cooper is also asking for a huge pay day and they just paid an overrated DE a huge contract.
     
  2. white is right

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  3. Bucky

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    Some potentially good news for LB Jake Ryan, should be a starter this season for Jacksonville. Telvin Smith decided he doesn't want to play Football anymore.
     
  4. white lightning

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    Great news. We need it with alot of dissapointments lately. Positive vibes going forward!
     
  5. Extra Point

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    Draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki used to be a big thing, working for Pro Football Weekly and the NFL. Now he's all but disappeared.

    Nawrocki criticized a couple of black quarterbacks, accurately as it turns out, but criticizing blacks in today's America is forbidden. He's obviously been targeted for political/racial reasons.

    Here's a blog discussing his scouting report on Geno Smith.

    When a scouting report absolutely nails it (Nolan Nawrocki on Geno ...
     
  6. Shadowlight

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    I am all for redemption. I can let a grudge go as long as the person is moving in a promising direction.

    Perhaps the one coach who has the greatest shot of rehabilitation is the Bucs HC Bruce Arians. No point in counting the chickens until they hatch given his horrid track record but he might just be in the best position to earn my respect which still is bewildering to even think about.

    Arians will either come through or will fail in the caste meter test this season. But the opportunities for him to break the caste spell are well in place.

    DE Anthony Nelson we hope will team up with OLB ( that is where they plan to play him) Ryan Nassib to form a big disruptive force up front. Both are talented pass rushers.

    Handy man Nick Fitzgerald understands his Taysom Hill role. He doesn't have allusions of becoming a first string QB but knows the best way to make the team is to be up for anything. The staff seems to like him so I am banking on him making the 53 man roster. Great disappointment if he doesn't.

    With talented but unproven WR Justin Watson in tow we can hope that this season he gets a chance to shine. I don't see why not.

    Then there is speedster Scott Miller. After the mini camp the coaching staff is a little concerned he might not hold up to well banging around in the slot all the time. While not puny he isn't as sturdily built as say Edelman so they are now thinking of using him as a deep threat too. In camp his great speed stood out ( he caught a very deep pass) so I envision Miller will line up wide on some plays. At the very least I expect heavy special teams usage from Miller.

    Arians is facing a fork in the road. Will he take the right one is the big question?
     
  7. Bucky

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    Very interesting scenario to follow with Tampa and Arians. Now if the Bucs can just throw crab legs in the trash, they might be a team to get behind.

    Suddenly Arizona and Tampa Bay, 2 perennially dark franchises, have some bright spots worth cheering on!

    **By the way. Fat Matt has already purged WR Brandon Reilly from his Detroit Lions..
     
  8. Leonardfan

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    The Dolphins signed thrice arrested RB Mark Walton the other day. Hopefully he gets arrested again as the Dolphins have a weak RB group already and no doublt Walton will be given alot of leeway. This POS is taking away reps and an opportunity from Patrick Laird all due to his "upside".

    Just saw Ebony Jenkum retired LOL. Geno Smiff just got signed by the Seahawks. Two big busts from the 2013 draft.
     
  9. The Hock

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    You can't be a successful QB in the NFL if you have a diva wide receiver mentality. Which appears to be the case with this guy.
     
  10. PHillisFan

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    The legend of Ebony Jenkem Manuel has retired.
     
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    The AJO signing made my day.....I recall Zach Zwinak not passing his tryout a few years back, never to be heard from again......Same with Cam McDaniel......Go AJ
     
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    Did the Bills get the steal of draft weekend?

    by Jeff Neiburg

    By now you've probably heard the gist of the David Sills story.

    Here's the skinny: Sills was infamously offered a scholarship by Lane Kiffin to attend the University of Southern California at the age of 13 as a quarterback in Delaware. Sports Illustrated called him “one of the greatest prospects ever.”

    That, of course, was premature.

    Sills never materialized as a QB prospect and never went to USC. But he did end up having quite the run as a wide receiver at West Virginia.

    The Bills signed Sills, an undrafted free agent, to compete for their 53-man roster as a wide receiver. How'd that happen? Jay Skurski took a look.

    Could the Bills have gotten the steal of draft weekend? It's possible.

    "I think he can play as long as he wants to play at the next level,” former WVU wide receivers coach Tyron Carrier said. “He's a technician, probably one of the smartest kids I've ever been around, one of the most hardworking kids, too. I mean, I can rave about him all day. I really feel like Buffalo has got the steal of the NFL draft. It's out of this world that he didn't get drafted. I don't understand, but congratulations to Buffalo.

    https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/13/bn-blitz-newsletter-did-the-bills-get-the-steal-of-draft-weekend/
     
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    Hahaha, Manuel was the first quarterback drafted that year. Shows how much the talent evaluators know.

    As far as Smiff, let’s hope Paxton Lynch taps into his “upside” and sends the mental midget to an early retirement as well. With Gum-smacking, lunatic Plantation Pete at the helm, he’ll be up against the odds.
     
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    I really do hope Sills become the next Thielen. I think him being a former qb really helps him over the competition.
     
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    I thought the top qbs of the 2013 class were Barkley and Nassib. Barkley has been solid as a spot starter and could probably be a starter in the league. Nassib never really got a shot again after years backing up Eli. Unbelievable how Geno Smiff can still get work.
     
  19. Truthteller

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    Shadowlight, weird thing with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is they were basically playing in front of half-empty stadiums in 2016 and 2017, week-to-week. So last spring (2018) they went on a binge of signing (Beau Allen, Mitch Unrein, ect.) and drafting (Justin Watson, Jack Cicy, ect.) whites at taboo positions. Carl Nassib was acquired via waivers when Cleveland let him go for nothing.

    Were all these transactions done to increase plummeting attendance in Tampa, as fans were staying away in droves for at team that resembled Bethune-Cookman during the Kaepernick (kneeling) years? Is the Bucs GM still doing that or is he signing/drafting the best players available, in a league that is clearly hostile towards whites?

    Will Bruce Arians, Todd Bowles and Byron Leftwich find a way to screw most of the whites over like Hattie Smiff did in Chicago when Jerry Angelo was drafting/signing a lot of whites at Caste positions last decade? My feeling is if Arians goes full Caste he will not last long. Two seasons at the most. Don't forget, Winston is still a huge question mark at quarterback and their D-Line is decimated. McCoy wants out and Jason Pierre-Paul might've suffered a season ending injury in a car accident. At his age, he may never return in full.



    I sincerely hope A.J. was not signed to play fullback. Team already has Zach Line (ex-college 1,000 yard rusher) and recently signed Micheal Burton, a typical career Caste blocking buffoon. When was the last time New Orleans had a white running back that did anything? Perhaps Gil Fenerty in the early 1990's?



    According to the Caste media up in Buffalo, Sills top competitor for a roster spot is D'haquille Williams, who is a former Auburn star/screw up that eventually "found his way" with the Edmonton Eskimos of the CFL. Same team Brandon Zylstra starred with before he signed with the Minnesota Vikings. "Duke" Williams, who broke a teammates jaw (along with other bad things) at Auburn and David Sills have very similar measureables. Caste media types (including Jay Skurski) are giving Williams the edge due to his time in Canada. Hope he's wrong.

    https://www.al.com/sports/2019/05/duke-williams-on-bills-opportunity-im-just-thankful-for-this.html



    2013 quarterback draft was just a train-wreck. No other way to put it. Best of the litter might be Mike Glennon and he seems destined to be a career backup. Next up is Landry Jones, who is looked at as a career back up. Just a bad class. Don't remember a class that weak since, perhaps, 1996 and 1997, when Tony Banks and Jim Druckenmiller were the first quarterbacks selected.
     
  20. Shadowlight

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    Since you brought up Tampa Bay's attendance it spurned my interest. These are telling attendance records.

    Before that I would like to see both the Florida baseball teams (Tampa Bay and Miami) moved out of the state to somewhere these teams would be appreciated. Miami averaged a paltry 10 thousand plus last season. Are you kidding me?

    So how about Tampa Bay? They were the second worst averaging a ghastly 14 thousand plus last season. How about this year? They are in first place!!! Doesn't make any difference as they are averaging the same as last season.

    Contrary to common thinking MLB is no longer essentially a white sport. If you count the pitchers only yes it still is mainly white. But everyday players are majority non white.

    TT is right. Tampa Bay has had major NFL attendance issues. Last year they ranked third lagging only behind the Bengals and the Chargers.

    Actually they were really the second worst because you can't count the temporary band box the Chargers play in.

    So that is that. Well not quite. Take an all white (winter sport on ice in Florida no less) or essentially that NHL team in the Lightening and you have attendance figures that not only rank in the top ten in the league but every home game is filled to capacity. Their fans are loyal and loud. They love their Lightening.

    What a contrast.

    Underneath these figures is this unspoken but prominent desire from many white fans to lustily cheer on white athletes. You wouldn't know it by ESPN who do everything in their power to conceal such a notion but it is there and it is not going to go away.

    While the push continues, an all black or almost all black and or non white sporting world will turn too many white fans off and we are seeing the seeds of that play out in Tampa Bay. And keep in mind unlike places like Buffalo and New England where fans freeze their asses off in early winter football games that is not a hindrance in Tampa Bay yet their attendance figures suck.

    If they build an NFL team that wins with prominent white players I suspect those attendance figures would go up over time.
     
  21. Truthteller

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    Shadowlight, I agree. Also, while you are at it, you can throw the Florida Panthers (Miami area-NHL), the Miami Heat and the usually mostly-black Jacksonville Jaguars and Miami Dolphins onto your list of Florida teams that don't draw well, unless they are vying for a title. Seems to be a state wide problem? Panthers and Jaguars are constantly fighting off rumors of relocation. Panthers woes are somewhat excusable, considering they've pretty much been terrible since they made that miracle Stanley Cup run in their 3rd season (1996).

    When the Jaguars entered the NFL in 1995 they seemed to be very white friendly (compared to other NFL teams) and won a lot early -- made the AFC Championship in their second season and had a rabid fan base, giving Jacksonville the aura of a Southern Green Bay. Thinking back to the 1990's, I never thought I'd see the Jaguars play in front of a half empty stadium (at best) week-to-week, for almost two decades. But a lot of that goes on the back of those that hired virulently anti-white, ex-GM James Harris and his block-head coach Jack Del Rio. By the early 2000's, it became pretty much accepted that the Jacksonville Jaguars rosters were going to look a lot more like James Harris' Alma-mater (Grambling) year-to-year than the rosters they put together in the latter half of the 1990's that won games and filled seats. No doubt that turned off a ton of white fans in Northern Florida and many have not returned.

    As far as the Tampa Bay Bucs, I think back to around 2016/2017, when Chris Conte and a very young Adam Humphries were their only notable whites at non-caste spots on a overwhelmingly black team. The seats were pretty empty every week and who knows how bad it would've been if corporations didn't step in to buy thousands of seats and simply hand them out for free? I'm sure this is very common in NFL, as it is in all sports. Back in November of 2017 I remember seeing an amazing, vivid crowd shot in Tampa: Half-filled stadium, was the norm, but the amazing thing was the jersey's fans were wearing that day. Very few current day (or recent) Bucs but lots of retro-jerseys with a similar theme: Lynch #47; Alstott #40 and (Brad) Johnson #14 were predominant. Heck, there might've even been some Jurevicius #87's mixed in? Anyone see a pattern here?

    Think NFL teams would get the picture, right? Well, most don't, for whatever nefarious reason. Getting to the modern day Bucs, I think this will be a true test for Bruce Arians, who's natural instincts seem to be very anti-white. His GM, who brought him out of coaching retirement, has gone out and drafted and signed several very NFL worthy whites at "taboo positions" the last two years. What does Arians and staff do, cleanse them all (or most) for any little reason (minor injuries, limited upside, .ect) or try to turn these talented men into good players and perhaps see some of deteriorating fan base come back? My gut feeling regarding Arians is not good. But we'll see?


    P.S: You are 100% correct regarding the Tampa Bay Lighting. Their success (particularly building a rabid fan base) has been beyond stunning considering all the obstacles they faced. I remember their expansion season of 1992-93 fairly well and they had to come up with all sorts of gimmicks just to fill a decrepit 10,000 seat arena. Remember the female goalie Manon Rheaume (who's 5'6" son is a goalie at Notre Dame) playing in pre-season games? How about gifting a roster spot to Brent Gretzky, who was not even close to NHL caliber, just to sell out a game versus the L.A. Kings, who were led by his older brother, Wayne? The thinking at the time was the Lighting had zero chance to make it very long and would be in Hamilton or Milwaukee in short order. Not only have they made it, they've thrived -- most rabid fan-base, best supported pro team in Florida in recent years. Only shock is, the NHL has not allowed their request to host a out-door game (Winter Classic or Stadium Series) in the Stadium the Buccaneers play at. How would those optics look like, Lighting sellout a stadium that the Buccaneers rarely can?
     
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    Actually, I don't think White and black has anything to do with attendance at ball games. What we're seeing is the beginning of the end of baseball and football. But the reason is not about the teams being fielded. It's about the fan base eroding because of disinterest of the Millennials who are now 30+ years of age. They are not interested in anything that takes place outdoors. Outdoors to this age group (on the whole) is something alien to them. The next group, GenY (in college now) will be even less inclined to go to outdoor games, which they will not play either. The whole thing is extremely interesting.
     
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    Tom I will disagree, the white hipster lefties run like hell from black culture unless it is carefully stage managed you know like showing up at a nice safe venue with other white lefty dweebs to watch a music act. Sure the nice white lefty virtue signaling whites spew a good amount of social squid ink but it's just that, and IMO if every black was to vanish today they would breathe a sigh of huge relief.

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    Yet Hockey attendance is very good, even in the age range of the Millenials. Is that because it's not an outdoor sport or because 90%+ of the players playing the sport are White?
     
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    Spot on observation. The Panthers are a Miami based team. Bingo. How many non Hispanic and non black live in the Miami area today?
    The number has to be extremely low. They won't support a white hockey team. But there are plenty of other whiter cities/areas from other states that would.
     
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