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  1. Freethinker

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    Clay Matthews to the Rams.

    They’ve added him and Weddle to a coal defense and will have Cooper Kupp returning with a shot at a thousand yard season. Definitely going to be a team to watch in the NFC.
     
  2. Johnny Tightlips

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    You can always count on Wade Philips to bring in white players! I know it wasn't apparent late in the season for the Rams, but these last two years, they have had a lot of white defensive players under Phillips/Mcvay
     
  3. Johnny Tightlips

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    Are they trying to transition to a 3-4
     
  4. Extra Point

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    Quarterback Austin Davis has been hired by the Seahawks to be an offensive assistant. What?

    Davis is 29. He should still be playing for someone in the league, not coaching. Maybe he has some sort of medical issue...
     
  5. PHillisFan

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    The greatest tight end of all time Rob Gronkowski has retired. Hell of a career. He will be missed on the field.
     
  6. Titus

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    Kind of bittersweet. When healthy he was the best weapon in the NFL. Probably the most dominant non QB athlete in the NFL along with Watt. None of those lunchpail, gritty, student of the game monikers could be attached to him. He was just an enormous, freak athlete who dominated the coal black defenses of the NFL, and no one could deny his greatness.

    It's tempting to assume he had some left in the tank, but remember he dealt with injuries his entire career. His NFL career almost didn't happen due to the back injuries in college, so you could say the 9 years we got were a gift.

    Greatest TE in NFL history.
     
  7. Bucky

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    Wow Going to miss Gronk!!
     
  8. Leonardfan

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    Glad to see he is going out on top as a Super Bowl champ. He should be a 1st ballot hall of famer. Always enjoyed watching him play. He will be missed.
     
  9. BeyondFedUp

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    I figured this was coming, especially after them hoisting the Lomardi again this year. The way to go out is on top. Total respect. A true great literally head and shoulders above others!
     
  10. PHillisFan

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    Landry Jones just got brought in by Raiders to compete for a backup vs Nate Peterman & Mike Glennon. Hopefully Gruden & Mayock don't do Carr dirty by selecting a quotaback in the 1st round after they've gone out in public and endorsed him as their starting qb.
     
  11. Don Wassall

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    I don't believe a word Gruden says. Last summer he was raving about Ryan Switzer; then out of nowhere he was traded to the Steelers for next to nothing. He raved recently about Jordy Nelson; Jordy was then cut. He's full of crap even by NFL standards.
     
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  12. Truthteller

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    Best thing that could happen to Derek Carr is the Raiders select a black quarterback early in the draft (Dwayne Haskins) and he is traded to a quarterback needy team like the Giants or Redskins. He's in an impossible, hostile environment in Oakland, surrounded by a bunch of angry blacks. It's pretty much been that way since he was drafted out of Fresno State.

    Let's not forget, he broke a bone in his back during the early part of the 2017 season because his all-sumo line was angry that he refused to "kneel during the anthem". Because of that, they reportedly refused to "protect him" during a Sunday night game against the Redskins and he was injured early in that game.

    Things were supposed to change when Jack Del Rio and Reggie McKenzie were run out of town, but it appears Cucky Gruden and Mike Maycuck are heading down that same road. Remember how, for a brief time, it looked like the Raiders would prominently feature Jordy, Switzer and Griff Whalen at receiver? How long did that last? Cucky praised Whalen 24/7 and suggested he could be the Raiders top slot receiver, then suddenly put him on the IR due to a minor injury. He would not even re-sign Griff at the end of the season (like the Lions did with Zenner) when he was healthy and the team was decimated by injuries at receiver.

    Worst thing that ever happened to Carr was Norv Turner. When Turner was the Vikings OC he was given the job of selecting the teams' "quarterback of the future" 5 years ago. He fully backed Teddy Bridgewater over Derek Carr and the front office obliged -- selected Bridgewater in the 1st round. Imagine if Derek had spent the last 5 seasons in Minnesota? He might already be considered a Aaron Rodgers type and he would not have been surrounded on offense by 10 blacks, most of whom were overtly militant or downright racist.
     
  13. greyghost

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    Yep ...Carr and Nelson need to get of the raiders set up .....period . ...raiders will always be ****** as long as there set up is black ...ie team ..fans etc ....either the team get around Carr as the leader and Nelson as their main receiver or cruden will get sacked after next season .....it's amazing how the media don't focus in on racist blacks and islanders who leave their qb get hammered , just because he is white ....the 49ers are passing them at a fast pace ....riaiders going absolutely no where fast ....
     
  14. Shadowlight

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    I admit I have been a Gruden backer, more so than most here, since he was hired and to his credit he went out and got Jordy who eventually started to shine towards the end of the season. I thought with Jordy in tow for another year and an opportunity to draft multiple white defenders things would settle in ok.

    Then they drop Jordy at the drop of a hat. Jordy like Chris Hogan is now twisting in the wind as the meat of the free agency period has ended.

    Keeping in mind we still have a draft to go before we hand out a final grade I'm afraid Truthteller's post above certainly captures the current downward trend which looks to continue onward. They have hauled in one bad black character guy after another and it seems the wind is blowing in one direction >>>>>>>>>towards caste land.

    I get the feeling Mayock is calling zero of the shots and is just happy to be collecting a fat paycheck as Gruden has wrestled full control.

    But where is the fair minded Gruden announcer I once respected? Where did he disappear to?
     
  15. greyghost

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    Being fair gruden ..does have credentials ...he understands he has the talent at the raiders ...,,but needs white offensive linemen .....I suppose wait for the draft ...and see if he can remember how far he came with altstot in 2002 ...,..
     
  16. greyghost

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    nelson would be a great fit at N.E. And Carr is such a talented guy ...I reckon N.E. Should wrangle him as backup for 2 seasons and let him take over ...
     
  17. Leonardfan

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    I am in total agreement. I was somewhat optimistic with his initial moves last year - Jordy, Switzer, Whalen all being positively talked up but he has scrubbed them all from the roster. His critical analysis in the booth did not translate back to the league when he became the head coach. His moves (with his sidekick Maycuck) this offseason have just shown he has doubled down on his caste ways - Antonio Brown and Vontzae Burfict? If I were Carr I would be hoping that the Raiders are targeting one of the black QBs and ship him out of the aptly named Black Hole.
     
  18. Shadowlight

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    Rule of thumb. And I mentioned this in previous posts. If a white WR lingers on the free agent market for too long expect the worst.

    One of my all time favorite athletes and a huge favorite here at caste the great and all important Jordy Nelson has decided to retire.

    Still has a good two years left but the league seemingly wants to create a certain look and so it is goodbye to Jordy.

    Such a shame he couldn't leave on his own terms and the way it all came down this past season with the Packers basically dumping him on the side of the road and the Raiders abruptly releasing him he deserved a much better way to finish off his career.

    I will always cherish the great moments he provided and will never forget his break out moment in the Super Bowl where he led the Pack to victory.
     
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  19. PHillisFan

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    It's all very disappointing. Jordy deserved better than this. Gruden gushed over 40 year old Jerry Rice and Tim Brown as possession receivers in his offense the first time he was Raiders coach, but Jordy , even a step or two slower, was still a great route runner. He would have continued doing well in the slot.
     
  20. Truthteller

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    I was hoping he'd go to the Patriots, but this is no surprise. He's paying the toll for buying the bull$hit Cucky Gruden was slinging last year. Jordy was a total fool choosing Oakland over New Orleans last spring -- Payton and Brees made a very aggressive push to get him. And he would've been a perfect fit, considering N.O. had to use several undrafted free agents at receiver due to a lack of quality depth.

    Raiders have a clueless, Jewish owner that inherited the franchise and has probably never worked a "real job" one day in his life. I'd assume Mark Davis is perfectly fine with having an all-black team and could care less if any whitey is "cleansed" from the roster. Their former black GM (now in Miami) seemed to openly despise white athletes, even more than Dennis Green and James Harris ever did. It was a perfect storm against him and he had very little chance to succeed in Oakland, right from the start. It was a minor miracle he put up the stats he did in 2018, considering the injuries and black dysfunction in Oakland.

    Brett Hundley harmed any chance Nelson had to make the Hall of Fame; Gruden and the Raiders destroyed it!

    How so?

    After missing the 2015 season with a knee injury, Nelson bounced back real strong in 2016 and had another Pro Bowl caliber season. If he could string together 2 or 3 more 1,000 yard season after '16, the Hall of Fame would've been a realistic possibility.

    Jordy was on pace (or close to it) for another 1,ooo yard season when Aaron Rodgers was injured @ Minnesota in 2017. We all know what happened with Hundley, so '17 was a waste. Then he choose money, dysfunction and anti-white bigotry over stability and Brees and his career is over too early. No reason to believe Nelson could not have had two 1,000 yard seasons in New Orleans.

    Will Jordy still get Hall of Fame consideration?

    Yes, but as I noted he likely needed a couple more 1,000 yard season to get well over 10,000 career receiving yards to have a serious chance. In the end, he'll be in the same boat as Wes Welker and Dez Bryant -- several great years, but not enough for the Hall of Fame.
     
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  21. Riggins44

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    Both Gronk and Jordy decide to retire within a few days of each other. This is like a couple of punches to the gut.
     
  22. icsept

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    Much like Adam Thielen, Jordy’s 3 year racial apprenticeship will cost him valuable statistical accumulation necessary to make the Hall of Fame.
     
  23. Truthteller

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    You make a valid point, icsept, but a lot of wide receivers (of all races) drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds take at least two years to fully develop into a top notch starter. It took slightly longer for Nelson. The fact that he missed the entire 2015 season with a torn ACL did not help either. Factor out that 2015 season, and Jordy had 4 out 5 season where he gained between 1,257 and 1,519 yards. Those 4 years he averaged 12.5 TD's -- he was simply dominant. In 2012, he missed 4 entire games and only played a few snaps (0 targets) in another due to injury. Those 5 games likely cost him 5 consecutive 1,000 yards seasons and possibly another 10 TD (plus) season. Thanks to racism in voting, Nelson only made one Pro Bowl during his career, which is terrible.

    Nonetheless, I still believe he could've overcame that 3 year racial apprenticeship and still made the Hall of Fame with a little luck and a better agent -- steering him to the team which was a better fit, not the team offering the most money. That horrible 2017 season in Green Bay started out fine -- Jordy was on pace for another 1,000 yard season until Aaron Rodgers got hurt week 6. That was "bad luck" for Jordy and Packers fans. Brett Hundley, simply put, isn't a NFL caliber quarterback -- starter or backup. Debatable if he's even a AAF caliber starter? Stunning the Packers, a Super Bowl contender in 2017, didn't have a better backup for Rodgers.

    Then signing with Oakland over the less Caste New Orleans squad was catastrophic. I honestly believe with Brees he would've easily had a another 1,000 season -- Jordy had 739 in that dysfunctional cesspool out in Oakland. He might have even put N.O. over the top in terms of getting to the Super Bowl, which would've extended his career.

    First time I saw him was as a junior at Kansas State. Couldn't believe how good he was, but figured, like most whites, the NFL would find a way to screw him over. Glad he "slipped through the cracks" and got a fair chance!


    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NelsJo00.htm
     
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  24. Bucky

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    Truly the end of an era with Gronk and Nelson both retiring. They were very important players for our cause and a joy to watch.
     
  25. Extra Point

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    Former NFL wide receiver and safety Mike Furrey is now the wide receivers coach for the Bears.

    Furrey once had 98 receptions in a season. Let's hope he tries to be fair to white receivers.
     

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