NFL Draft Question: Why is 60 a Significant Number this Week?

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  1. Truthteller

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    Leonardfan, if history is any guide, you will be proven to be correct. I think this is a very important topic, particularly for lurkers to know about. The fact that virtually the same percentage (74% to 78%) of blacks and a small group of fat Polynesians are drafted year-to-year, for almost two decades, is statistically impossible (as bigunreal notes) in a nation where blacks comprise a bit over 12% of the population. Also, within that 12%, there is a ton of dysfunction, meaning a significant number of younger black males are ensnared in criminal justice system or victims of urban violence well before they even leave high school and can never be drafted. Yet, somehow, someway, things never change, even if the black talent pool dwindles a bit. Why?

    Below are two great, partial posts from bigunreal from 2011 and 2012, respectively. Can anyone say anything has changed between the 2014 NFL Draft and the 2018 NFL Draft to prove bigunreal or any of us wrong, in regards to showing how the powers-that-be rig the draft process to make sure only about 53 to 59 whites (excluding kickers and punters) are drafted year after year?

    Finally, if some intrepid reporters over at ESPN really want to do some investigative reporting for Bob Ley's Outside the Lines, they might want to look into the topic we've been discussing in this thread the last seven years. How about just once, instead of doing the same trite reports they've done a million times over the last 30 years: Why aren't there more black head coaches in the NFL? Why are African-American's disappearing from baseball? Is the name Redskins racist? Blah, blah, blah, who cares anymore?
     
  2. Truthteller

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    Wow, what a surprise, NFL.com draft writer has put forth an updated 7 round mock draft and the number of white draft picks, excluding punters and kickers, is exactly 60, per my calculation.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...r-2019-sevenround-nfl-mock-draft-team-by-team


    I'm not 100% sure on all these players, but using Leonardfan's big board I think 60 to 62 is a decent bet. I suppose that would be an improvement, as most years this writer is well below 60?

    No white defensive backs or running backs drafted in this tool-bags mock. Only two wide receivers, including a goy (David Stills) that was projected by most prior to the season as being a potential first or second round pick, sliding deep into the sixth round. Before some white hating Tribesman surfs on to CF to defend his ebony hero's by blasting Stills 40 time, don't forget current Vikings bust Laquan Tredwell refused to run at the Combine, then only ran 4.65 (with very poor shuttles) on a fast track at his Pro Day**, but still went in the first round.

    Also, Hunter Renfrow, who helped lead Clemson to two national titles and outright WON one title game for his team with an amazing, clutch TD is missing from uber-dork's 7th round mock draft. While Renfrow is undrafted, Turd Man found a way to sneak receivers from these schools into his mock: UC Davis, Buffalo, Alabama at Birmingham, Monmouth, Northwestern State, Georgia State, and Toledo. No doubt, the "amazing upside" possessed by these stalwarts must be so stunning, that they've displaced Renfrow. Oh, by the way, the "Toledo receiver" in the mock is not Cody Thompson. Go figure?


    **https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laquon_Treadwell
     
  3. Shadowlight

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    Right on posts right above. Oddly that mock draft above includes both McSorley and Fitzgerald. I don't think I have seen them in any other mock drafts. And I suspect you won't see them in the real draft either. Even though both deserved to get drafted albeit in the late rounds. You know to copy Taysom Hill. A spark for the offense. Sounds good but white players providing a spark doesn't sit well with most teams I guess.

    Funny how the Patriots and their stalwart white wide receivers isn't copied throughout the league. And the successful Taysom Hill experiment by the Saints doesn't seem to leave a trail either.

    Yet if a black skill player does something every Tom, Dick and Harry gets on board.

    But overall this mock from a familiar draft guru's name doesn't cut the mustard. No white DBs? Two measly white WRs?

    They sneak these black wide receiver types in every year from high school competition teams, my bad, I meant college (cough ) teams. Truthteller lists the dweeb schools and seeing them in the harsh light of day really does burn the ass when you consider how many worthy white WRs are left on the table.

    The WR from Monmouth is the son of a former NFL player. Oh Monmouth that's where Chris Hogan went to school. The pipeline. Well not exactly. Chris Hogan never got drafted.
     
  4. Truthteller

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    I agree Shadowlight, I also noticed the All-Purpose quarterbacks in the mock draft. I doubt either would be drafted as true quarterbacks, so what's the chance some NFL team will really draft them as "athletes"? And what are their chances of making a 53 man roster as a safety or wide receiver?

    Trace McSorely at safety? Why wouldn't a team select Andrew Wingard, who was a four year college star at the position instead? Why not select Chris Johnson, who has tremendous size, speed and athletic ability and has played the position since pee-wee ball instead? Does this make any sense at all?
    Yes, it's obvious the agenda here is not to win as many games as possible. Look at Cucky Gruden, he led everyone to believe he was going to "jazz up" the Raiders offense with Jordy Nelson starting outside, Griff Whalen being the teams' #3 in the slot and Ryan Switzer battling Whalen for reps, while handing all the kicks and punts for the Raiders. How did that workout? Did Cucky suddenly "chicken out" playing three white receivers (like the Patriots), fearing a locker room revolt, coupled with a potential blow-back from the anti-white media?

    Here's an amazing bigunreal post about winning and profits being secondary, as well as trashing the DWF's that fund the overtly racist NFL: http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/annual-nfl-white-purge-2013.16002/#post-281583

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    Here's another 7 round mock from a black CBS Sports "draft expert", who always seems to downgrade white athletes. He's also in the expected range of 57 to 60 whites selected, but includes a white DB and a stunning 5 white wide receivers: Isabella, Stills, Renfrow, Thompson and Irwin. Mock also has comments after each pick, although most belong to another CBS writer, Chris T.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...ck-goes-before-haskins-bears-start-on-o-line/
     
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  5. Shadowlight

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    The "Outside the Lines" feature on ESPN should be retitled "Inside the Lines." I agree. Stories regarding lack of black head coaches, the Redskins so called controversial name and the one that takes the cake and eats it to every year the question of African American baseball players are stale run of the mill anti white racist nonsense. Pure balderdash.

    "Outside the Lines" should be focusing on fresh stories like the make up of modern day sports, the media slant and the push to exclude white athletes to the margins for starters.

    But back to the NFL draft show. I do not eat fast food. Last time I had a Burger King I was in my teens. Doesn't make me superior or anything it is just that all I tasted was grease.

    But as we look at the numbers every year of how many white players get drafted it got me to thinking that the draft has been just like a fast food hamburger. Some beef (we think) but full of antibiotics, artificial ingredients and non food chemical concoctions including who knows what which all make up filler. Filler--everything above and beyond the beef.

    So we witness every year a draft full of black filler which means most of these players are hardly draft worthy. They are just black bodies that steal away opportunities form the white players.

    Where is the filler most apparent? Certainly there are some black defensive linemen and linebackers that qualify as filler.

    But to me the most noticeable filler spots are taken up by black running backs, black wide receivers (usually a fair share from pseudo sports colleges--see above posts) and of course black defensive backs.

    I am sure many here have witnessed draft after draft hoping and half expecting a talented skilled white player to be selected only to be bombarded by a bunch of no name black skill players.

    Hell I remember several drafts where a long endless run of black DBs were chosen. Just a constant stream of the "world's greatest athletes" names being called. And it makes me sick every year.

    Stuffing the draft with a bunch of semi talented black fillers essentially assures the NFL that it will remain predominantly black. And that has been gone over and discussed at length here at caste football for ages.

    Like an iron grip this seems like a fixed formula for an eternity.

    Now I will argue there are signs of improvement, albeit slight but still significant, over the past several years. Starting with a white tail back (CM) getting drafted early in the first round and an uptick in the number of white WRs drafted. Although that trend may not last. And all signs point to one of the better drafts for white defensive players this go around.

    But the snags are still there and none more obvious to me than the lack of white defensive backs which is bewildering considering how truly awful most black DB play has been in the past five plus years.

    And running back, which requires all of the offensive players to be on board, continues to be a sticky wicket for black dominated locker rooms which translates into most NFL teams. A passing white QB has always been tolerated and welcomed because they get the ball to the black receivers. A white running back is another story altogether.

    If I was a scout I would put both white dual threat QBs discussed on the draft board meaning must get drafted. I would have 3 white DBs( Johnson, Gervace and Wingard) on the draft board. I would have two white running backs on the draft board. And I would have anywhere between 6-9 white WRs on the draft board. As far as the front seven on defense I would include all of the players on Leonardfan's draft board and add roughly 7-10 more white front seven players.

    But you can't fight town hall and you can't fight black filler. All we can hope for is that the filler isn't as big as usual and some more deserving white skill players get drafted.
     
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    Excellent post and I love your analogy comparing the caste system to fast food mystery meat burgers. Hope that filler metaphor catches on.
     
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    Shadowlight,

    Filler is a great word to use. I was going over some of the numbers of how many players were drafted by position. DB (combining both cb and safety) probably amount to at least 40 draft picks on average, WRs 30 picks on average, RBs 20 picks - thats 90 picks at positions where maybe 5 white players get drafted from. It’s unreal.

    We do see upside laden sumos, DL and Lbs also get picked in front of athletically similar yet more productive white athletes as well. When white players are essentially blackballed from three positions that provide 90-100 players to the draft it’s clear as day why we never see more than 50-60 white players drafted.
     
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    Great points, men. DWF's and anti-whites can disagree with us, but no one can say we don't have great, insightful posters at CF. Here's another mock and, guess what, we have another total of about 58 whites in the 7 rounds?

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...ll-32-teams-with-34-trades-and-all-the-picks/

    All three full mocks I linked (done by different people) have had almost the same exact amount of whites picks from #1 to #254. This is crazy, it's almost like the NFL has sent a secret memo out to the Net nerds that do mocks drafts and informed them that only 60 whites (excluding kickers, punters, LS) are allowed to be drafted.

    With what seems to be a better crop of white front 7 defenders, Leonardfan projects over 70 (even acknowledging the Caste System). Hopefully he's right. It would be nice if, even for just one weekend, we can go back to the mid 1990's, when 70-75 whites selected was the norm. I used to think those were really dark days for whites. Who would've figured much darker days were right around the corner?

    There will be a flood of lurkers coming to the site tonight. I think I'll leave with this great quote from bigunreal, which pretty much shows how the NFL Draft must be rigged against whites:

    How much of a deviation is there between the total number of white players drafted year to year? It seems to me that it's always in the mid to high 50s. I submit that this is statistically impossible. Without a strict quota system, there is just no way that an aggregate number of (32) separate, "competing" organizations could manage, collectively, to arrive at nearly the same figure after every draft.
     
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    That's a quote from the first post in this thread from April 25th 2013. I guess some might differ, with Taylor Rapp or Elliss, but it looks like the final tally today was about 60 whites drafted, excluding kickers, punters and long snappers. I've always excluded them because they are all white positions which blacks don't want to play. Ever see any black or white libitard in coaching or the media (i.e. Stephen F. Smiff or Max Kellerman) complain about the lack of black PK's, P's and LS'ers? I never have? And when the rare black punter or kicker is drafted, the media ignores them as much as any anonymous, white blocking fullback. Means they don't even want those positions?

    Don't want to toot my own horn, but I predicted what would happen today all the way back in 2012 and 2013 threads. Actually, I mentioned this "60 threshold" on the site before that -- 2009 or 2010, just can't track down the posts. Things never seem to change. The beat goes on; the beat goes on.
     
  10. Old Scratch

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    Rapp is definitely not seen as White only Asian. He ran a 40 time in the 4.7 range at his pro day, and didn't even run it at the combine. Yet still was a high round draft pick, if he was seen as more White than not he wouldn't even get signed as an UDFA, his 3 cone and shuffle times being irrelevant. Wingard ran a 4.56 at the combine, that is too slow for a White DB to get drafted, that makes him too "unathletic," and not athletic enough to be an NFL athlete where all DBs must run in the 4.4s or better except for some black CBs selected in the first and second rounds with times in the 4.6 range.
     
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    Yes, excellent work TT. Thanks for all your contributions on this year’s draft.
     
  12. Truthteller

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    I agree Old Scratch. I mentioned in the NFL Draft thread that prior to the season NFL.com did a long, in-depth feature on David Sills V, where they led everyone to believe he was first or second round caliber prospect. They did a similar, long feature on Taylor Rapp and most of article revolved around his Chinese heritage (mother's side) and how Rapp would be a great asset/ambassador for a league that was looking to get a stronger foothold (for financial gain) in the Chinese market. Looks like, despite his really poor workouts, the NFL needed him and wanted him and was he picked higher than expected despite his very poor Pro Day numbers, perhaps to exploit the Chinese angle? You are correct, if he was full white he would've never been picked. I remember several years back Boston College had a similar, touted safety named Jamie Silva (I think?). He put up similar workout numbers as Rapp and he totally tanked -- went from a 4th round projection (or so) to a low priority UFA with the Colts and never had a chance.

    Personally, I will not root against Rapp. But I would not necessarily count him as white, although I suppose some will. So, in the end, it came down to about 58 to 60 white, non special teams, goys drafted. Business as usual, right? And, reality is, teams probably already know at least one of the fullback's, linebacker's or tight end's drafted today could wind up as full time long snapper -- same way once decent tight end and linebacker prospects Clark Harris, Jason Kyle and Zach DeOssie were relegated to solely snapping early in their careers.

    Thanks Freethinker. There are a lot of things I can comment on, but I'll try to keep this brief. Everyone seemed to be surprised when the Arizona Cardinals, one of the most ant-white teams ever in the NFL, started picking whites fairly high. But checkout what I posted back in early February**. I really began to see this happening when they started adding a bunch of backup linebacker types last fall. For years they never had no more than one white on defense, suddenly they are collecting them like a kid accumulates candy? Did the Isabella and Allen picks prove me right? ** http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/2019-nfl-draft.36740/page-11#post-737639

    By the way, in another thread I foresaw Cleveland as being a team that is going in the opposite direction (cleansing whites as fast as they can), under new GM Meathead Dorsey. Meat is fascinating. He played/starred at Connecticut when they were really small time in the early 1980's. I don't remember him as a college or NFL player, but assumed he just some "rural hick" from Connecticut or some other Northeastern state? Turns out he's from a family of very prominent Democrats from Maryland. Parents were both political figures. Mother got divorced, then married a high power Jewish man, that became the Governor of Maryland. Point? Perhaps Dorsey is a real life, NFL version of Keith Olbermann? So, outside of Baker at quarterback, expect this club to bleed whites in the near future. Don't be surprised if they eventually resemble the Holmgren/Favre era Packers -- white star quarterback; total of about 4 white starters -- mostly guards/centers. Hopefully Joe Schobert survives the inevitable racially cleansing in Ohio.
     
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