Nate Ebner

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  1. white defensive back

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    I was reading Pro Football Weekly's 2012 edition yesterday and they have Ebner listed as a corner back. This could be a misprint but upon doing a little research he actually did wind up playing corner and safety for Ohio State. This could get interesting. I would love to see Brandon Hardin and Chris Conte get a chance to play some corner with Chicago. At least Seattle is giving Donny Lisowski a 4 year contract to play corner. Now if Weddle and Gregory were moved back to their natural positions I would not hate the NFL so much.
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    I think Ebner is being groomed to be a WSTD, same as he was at Ohio State. Though Belichick at least acts outside of the box on occasion.

    I don't expect any Whites to play CB in the NFL this year, even as backups. The perpetual all-black monopoly at that position is protected even more fanatically than at RB, despite (or maybe because of) the wretched play of so many CBs. Hope I'm wrong. . .
     
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    You are probably right. I don't see this guy getting any real time at corner at least for now but its nice to see he is listed as one. Edelman played corner as we all know though I wish he got a chance in the Super Bowl but I do not remember seeing him on the field.
     
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    Well, the "limited" white skillset can be used at RB, with the occasional powerback or the versatile guys (like Woodhead and Leonard). But CB requires magical, unmeasurable qualities that ONLY blacks possess, like "loose hips", "wiggle", "closing burst", etc. I think that having a room-brightening smile is also in the fine-print conditions for playing "on the island".
     
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    Quite right. There is no position where the mystical magical unquantifiables are valued then at CB. My own opinion is that it is also a combination of two other things. 1) blacks are absolutly oblivious to reality so being burned time after time for TD after TD does not faze them, they still think they are the greatest CB in all of football. This is true for the best at the position and the worst. In a league where the rules have been so screwed up to favor the receiver over the d-back-- having a very thick skin is paramount.

    2) its very important for CB's to be nameless souless proles prowling the last line of defense in an offensive game. If ever anyone breaks the pattern and can stick out, like having bright white skin, then they will get ALL of the blame whenever possible. Look how many times the camera pans to the only white guy in the backfield after a long TD, even if he had nothing to do with the play. Coaches CANNOT put a white guy out there, it would be too cruel. At least at safety the white guy is backing someone else and usually not wholly responsible. I have watched for the last few years as Michigans All Amerkwan safety Jordan Kovacs gets blamed for every bad defensive lapse. Even though he's the best guy out there.

    Also the refs would be even more merciless on white CB's then they are on black CB's and they treat those guys like sh*t, pass interference is the most falsly called penalty in the game. Even the media guys don't bother to comment much on it because it's so pathetically bad there is nothing much to say.
     
  6. Jimmy Chitwood

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    i've added emphasis to highlight the truly poignant bits, but these comments are spot on, jaxvid.

    additionally, blacks' obliviousness to reality is even more evident in the real/non-football world. i've taught them for several years now, and regardless of how much evidence is presented to prove the opposite blacks ALL think they are 1) smart, 2) talented athletes, and 3) good looking. ALL OF THEM BELIEVE THIS. and theres' nothing anyone can do to prove it otherwise. it'd really be quite laughable if it weren't so pathetic.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    Whites' attitudes of inferiority and self-loathing are as entrenched as are blacks' of false superiority. I had some hope that the consistently strong performances in recent years by the Whites "allowed" to play in the NFL combined with so many black flops would make a difference among the 20 million or so DWFs who play fantasy football. But after participating in rookie drafts in several ff leagues so far this year, it's obvious very little has changed. Every black is assumed to be a star, while the few Whites who were drafted in the early rounds are always regarded with strong suspicion and drafted later than they should be (at positions other than QB).

    Comments after articles are still almost as bad as they were pre-CF. There is an occasional sane, objective voice, but mostly there remains an irrational dislike of White players combined with hero-worshipping of just about any and all blacks, though polls on the popularity of players show that the number of non-brainwashed Whites isn't as high as those that tend to write the hate Whitey comments. But overall truly a successfully Pavlovian conditioned society.
     
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    I agree 100%. A white CB will be the Number 1 whipping boy no matter what.

    Many years ago (around 1970), I read a quote by an unnamed coach or scout that said low intelligence is an advantage for a CB. Why? He doesn't realize (or it doesn't register) how impossible the job is.

    This was before the 1978 rule changes which made pass defense much harder.
     
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    Whites would likely have to become at least one-third of CBs, safeties, WRs and RBs to get any respect and be accepted as "legitimate," maybe even half. Even then there would be lots of whining and gnashing of teeth about blacks "being deliberately phased out" because White fans were allegedly fed up with them, similar to the articles several years ago when the NBA began drafting an "alarming" number of European players before that quickly ended.

    That's not going to happen anyway, at least not from top-down pressure. The NFL is wildly successful financially with its current template and has no incentive to change other than to pretend to be "getting tough" with the worst of its substantial criminal element.
     
  10. Jimmy Chitwood

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    Ebner has been getting some pretty nice recognition for his play in the pre-season and in camp. he led the Pats in tackles against the Bucs, after he had an interception the week before.

    original article: http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/s...21/nate-ebner-is-having-himself-quite-a-week/

    original article: http://blogs.providencejournal.com/...s-wilson-ebner-getting-work-for-patriots.html

    one "wonders" why he was only allowed to play special teams at Ohio State. *smirk*
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    I am hoping Ebner makes the team. Its great to see he is playing so well in preseason.
     

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