My Experiences as a Student in Canada from 1995-2011; Recalling a Curriculum of White Guilt, White C

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  1. BoxingSpecialist2

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    Just my personal story and my feelings on the Canadian school system and how it deals with the topics of race/racism, slavery, and European colonization in the Public School curriculum. Today, I am a 24 year old male, so my story is very relevant in that this is an accurate portrayal of how things are in near and recent times. I was educated from 1995-2011 in Canada.

    I was originally born in Europe, but moved to Canada in 1995, at that time I would have been 7 or 8, in Grade 2. I was educated in English in Public School in Montreal (though the law has since changed and now immigrant children are normally educated in French in Quebec), and then in 1999, at the age of 11 or so, I moved with my family to Toronto which is the largest city and epicenter of Canada, where I graduated from the Public School System and eventually obtained a University Bachelor's Degree in Business. So, Ive spent essentially my entire childhood, adolescence, and young adult years in the Canadian education system, and I know the Canadian curriculum very well.

    I remember in about grade 3, I would have only been about 8 or 9 years old, I remember learning that White Men from Europe came over to Canada and stole the land from Natives. I also learned that White Men killed, raped, and cheated the Natives. I precisely remember feeling embarrassed and guilty at that age, because I was white, and I was being shown all of these evil things that white people had done.

    This kind of lessons were continuously thrown at me, year after year, teachers would instruct classes of 30 students about how evil the White Man was. Topics covered also included how even more evil white Men in the USA enslaved all blacks and also killed, raped, and cheated these blacks. As a white boy who was only about 9, 10, or 11 years old, these type of lessons made me feel embarrassed, guilty, and ashamed.

    I would say for about 10 years I was constantly reminded in Social Studies, and History classes of how evil white men were.

    Yet, in these lessons, never once was any sort of logical counter-position brought up. Say for example, the fact that Natives also killed, raped, and pillaged each other before the white Man even came, on a level that was comparable to the White Man. Or the fact that whites bought black slaves *from other blacks* who enslaved them. Or the fact that Jews disproportionately owned black slaves compared to whites. Or perhaps the fact that millions of whites were also enslaved by Blacks in Europe (look at the Barbary slaves on google). None of these extremely relevant counter positions were ever remotely discussed in the classroom.

    This type of biased, slanted curriculum in the Public School system I would say is ABUSIVE to white kids. I know because I went through it, and I felt it first hand. I would honestly consider it abusive on some level and these topics shouldn't be discussed to young children until they are older. It makes you feel embarrassed, guilty, and ashamed for being white. That's not OK and quite frankly I consider it abusive on some level. This is the beginning of white guilt complex for many whites in Canada.

    Kids who are 8 or 9 years old don't deserve to be brainwashed, ridiculed, and taught in this manner. This is extremely biased teaching and at a young age like 8 or 9, many children are not intelligent enough to question what they are learning and viewing.

    Thank God, in my teens I started feeling extremely proud of myself, my race, and I started to question the obviously biased agenda that was being thrown at me since I was 8 years old. By the time I was about 15 or so, I was completely set in my ways and proud of my heritage.

    Unfortunately, I think I am a vast minority and the majority of whites just eat this propaganda up. This is exactly what creates white guilt and "liberal culture" in Canada, this type of brainwashing and propogation to kids at such a young age. In my opinion, those in charge of the school curriculum should be reprimanded and punished for their biased teachings. I honestly consider it child abuse.

    If I ever had children I would absolutely not allow them into Public School. It's extremely biased, racist, and downright abusive at times. I went through it, and Thank God I am intelligent enough to recognize this bias, a lot of whites aren't sadly and they fall right into the white guilt complex.

    I am an extremely confident, successful, hard working white male today and I am very proud of that. I have no white guilt in me whatsoever and since I was in my teens I am proud of that. I can't stand being around other whites who are Liberal or always showing white guilt. Sadly, my story shows how this type of complex occurs to many whites in Canada. Most whites unfortunately fall into this "white guilt" trap that the Schools push on them.
     
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    I would be interested in hearing from others on this site. Does anyone else feel like me? What were your experiences like in school and how did they teach topics like slavery and European colonization? What was your reaction to that?

    Do any of you have children and do you homeschool or send them to Public School?

    I am 24 and don't have any kids, but when I have some I will absolutely not use the Public School System. Its crap and its abusive in my opinion. Id rather my kids not be exposed to that kind of anti-white, anti-Caucasian agenda. Public School system forces whites to feel embarrassed, ashamed, and guilty by showing them an extremely limited historical perspective.

    Schools make white kids hate themselves, because of the biased way slavery and European colonization is presented. Human history of all races, concerns slavery, oppression and colonization, yet my school experience only focused on whites enslaving Natives and Blacks. That is extremely biased and only a small portion of history being presented, while ignoring larger parts. This type of self hate is abusive and I would characterize the public school system as abusive to white kids. It makes you feel embarrassed, guilty, and ashamed at yourself. That is child abuse, and the saddest part is they push this agenda on kids as young as 7, 8 years old. I know because I went through it.

    I feel those in charge in the Canadian Public School System should be punished. It's not right to politicize, brainwash and force self hate agendas on kids as young as 7 and 8 years old. This type of biased schooling helps explain the wigger phenomenon in Canada and USA, white guilt complex, liberal whites, Whites bending over backwards to apologize for Negroes, etc...

    Thank God I was intelligent enough to avoid the trap of white guilt complex that schools so successfully push on most whites.
     
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    Gentlemen, Interesting thread. Tonight is the Board of Ed meeting in my town and I'll go and abuse the hell out of them as usual. Collectively, they give idiots a bad name. There's nothing I can do to change anything they're going to do, but every chance I get I stand and call them liars and anything else that comes to my mind. It goes like this. There are three main groups on my BOE. The first and biggest are teachers - five of them. Then there's the group who are selling to the schools or have someone in the family who's selling to the school or works for the school - three. Then there are the three forelorne people who actually want to help the children and Taxpayers. As you can see, their outvoted every time. But it is fun needling them. Tonight I'll concentrate on questioning the Superintendant as to if he's going to teach the children about mlk beating up the prostitutes, plagiarizing the dream speech and his doctoral thesis in divinity school and his affiliation with the communist party, etc.? Should be great fun. You might as well have fun doing this type of thing. You should have been there the night I told them Mark Twain's quote about school boards. He said, "First God created idiots, that was for practice, then he created boards of education." That was great and very, very true.

    A word of advice, learn Robert's Rules of Order. or they'll try and trick you and suppress what you have to say through various parliamentary tricks, and learn to couch everything you say in question form.

    Tom Iron...
     
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    You are not allowed to homeschool your kids where I live. If you don’t want your kids to go to a public school, you will have to send them to a private school, which are very costly (around 300-800€ a month) and not available everywhere in the country. Education is supposed to be “freeâ€￾, but the quality you will get is usually pretty low.
     
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    I ended high school in 2002 and didn't really feel much White-hate, although that was before mass immigration in our schools up here became too bad.

    I don't doubt the anti-White, cultural marxism being pushed on kids, especially in immigrant (read: welfare) magnets like Ontario. It's really unfortunate to watch Whites suffer cultural genocide (followed sadly by outright racial genocide) in a country that always gets stereotyped as being White.

    This is why you don't give away your race's power to feel-good politics like racial egalitarianism or allow for massive immigration floods. They ruin YOUR culture and YOUR way of life.
     
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    While I was in school I never specifically heard anyone say white men or white people are evil. But I strongly felt it was implied. In grade 3, at about the age of 8 or 9, I remember learning that whites stole the land from Natives, slaughtered them, and raped them of their fortune and lands. Whites enslaving blacks in USA was another topic brought up with painted whites as oppressors and evil, and blacks as good and victims.

    I certainly don't dispute that whites killed Natives, but my point is that A) It's an EXTREMELY limited historical perspective, and the issue is really not that simple. Before whites came, Natives in Canada also fought with and "stole" the land from other Natives. Whites also slaughtered other whites throughout history, just as Natives slaughtered other Natives. Natives also assisted whites in slaughtering fellow Natives. Blacks enslaved other blacks who sold their own black slaves to whites. Africans also have enslaved whites in great numbers throughout history. Slavery is something that is common to all races, cultures, and histories. None of these factual and highly relevant points of discussion entered the classroom though, so that leaves B) It paints a fabrication to kids that whites are evil. And if you are a white kid, you should hate your self and feel like you owe other races something because you oppressed them.

    Thankfully, in my teens I became aware of this nonsense agenda and I have been pro-white, pro-reality (lol), and extremely confident since I was about 13 or 14 years old. But my point is... I am an exception. Most whites fall into this trap and begin to hate themselves because they had this agenda forced on them when they were a small kid in school.

    Also, as per your comment on Ontario. For the most part I would agree with you that Canadians living in multicultural and multiracial areas are exposed to more anti-whiteness in Schools, but even talking with Canadian whites from rural areas, I notice this self hatred.
     
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    Some good points, BoxSpec, but I wouldn't say most whites fall into the trap. There is a considerable amount that do, but there are still quite a few racially aware whites out there. Remember, there is only one true reason why whites are the most hated race around the world. It's because of our past success, our intelligence, our great looks, and the fact that we have conquered the world multiple times over. Things are definitely taking a turn for the worst for the white race, but I don't think we will see the brunt of it in our lifetimes.
     
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    Thank you! It would be nice to see more racially aware whites. In my day to day life, unfortunately, I don't see many racially aware whites. Maybe its different where you live, but here in Canada (which never had slavery), I would say a majority of whites have self-hate and guilt-trip issues over slavery.

    Living in Toronto, a lot of white people I talk to in everyday life (job, socializing, friends etc), I would say have some sort of white guilt complex. Usually this guilt complex has to do with that they think they owe other races something because of a past history of oppression (Whites enslaving blacks, Whites massacring Natives etc). These kind of white people are very unlikely to ever criticize a Negro publicly, on the job, or voice some kind of opinion against a Negro stance.

    As Ive pointed out by talking about my experience in the Canadian Public School System, I feel this agenda is pushed on children as young as 7 and 8 years old.

    Slavery, oppression, and massacres occur in all races. Whites shouldn't feel guilty over enslaving blacks, actually, blacks enslaved themselves, and throughout history there is also periods when whites were enslaved in large numbers. Arabs have also enslaved blacks in large numbers in the Arab Slave Trade, and even today in Arab countries blacks are seen as "low class", yet there is no self-hate, or guilt over that. None of these topics are discussed in school, so it fabricates an image that whites are oppressive. This is what fuels white guilt, and why so many whites have guilt issues and are such Negro-apologists and sympathizers.

    Whiteathlete33, you say that many whites don't fall into that trap of white guilt, and that's nice and I'm happy to hear that. Thats great news!

    Fully agreed! And singlehandedly, whites and Caucasians have created Western Civilization and sadly, they will never be given just credit for that. Whites and Caucasians have achieved the most of any races, and yes there have been periods of oppression just like there have been for every other race. All things considered, Caucasians and Whites by far achieved the most of any peoples.
     
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    I'm not big into history, but Zeus has posted many times about black tribes trying to enslave the ancient Greeks and Romans. It's highly probable. Secondly, there is plenty of slavery going on in Africa this very day. That's the response I give to anyone who brings up slavery and they usually look at me with a blank stare. Arabs and other blacks are enslaving blacks. Here is a link to a CNN article frpm last March. The truth hurts these self loathing morons. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/world/africa/mauritania-slave-owner-abolitionist/index.html
     
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    Thank you Whiteathlete33, for providing that link, in that link you see what looks to me like an Arab or East Indian/Arab Mix who recently owned and operated with black slaves in Mauritania.

    Arabs have a long history of slaves and enslaved many blacks (as well as some whites, Central Asians, Mongols, and East Asians). It is also true what Zeus said, blacks have at various times came from Africa to coastal areas of Europe looking for slaves. In fact, over time, it is estimated that hundreds of thousands of whites were taken to Africa as slaves. Schools also fail to bring up the historical fact that Jews disproportionately owned black slaves at a higher rate than white Christians did, yet it is only white Christians who suffer the majority of blame for slavery. But of course, these types of slavery will never be mentioned in North American classrooms because that would go against their agenda. My school only focused on showing whites as oppressors, which clearly is a biased account of history which encourages white guilt.

    The school system is blatanatly biased, and they force this image of white oppression onto kids as young as 7 and 8 years old... It's child abuse in my opinion.

    Thanks for your link and great post, Whiteathlete33!
     
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    Weren't the Dutch Jews the ones that started the trans-atlantic slave trade?
     
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    It's impossible to say who "started" slavery. Slavery has been around for thousands, and thousands of years in all races, and all parts of the World. So it's impossible to say that one type of people started or began slavery, you would need historical records dating back to the years before Christ, because slavery has been around since long before Christ. Slavery in Africa and concerning black Africans has existed since long before the white man or Jews from Europe ever came or sailed to Africa.

    The Atlantic Slave Trade built on the already existing African slave trade that blacks had imposed on themselves. For example, many poorer blacks, or blacks from ethnic minorities were used as slaves by wealthier blacks. So it is erroneous to say that whites, or even Jews started slavery in Africa. It was there since well before Europeans even traveled to Africa. Actually, Blacks enslaved themselves, and sold their own slaves to Europeans and Jews.

    When you consider the history of slavery in Africa before Europeans even came into contact with Africa, it seems ridiculous to somehow try and blame the entire extent of slavery on white Europeans.

    Concerning Jews, what is true, as Ive read, is that on a percentage basis, Jews owned more slaves than whites did. They also had a large influence in developing and growing the Atlantic Slave Trade, yet this is often censored, or omitted from the school system.

    European whites take the entire blame for not just African Slavery, but all slavery in history. And when you look at the facts behind this issue, that is completely ridiculous. Blacks themselves are more to blame for their own slavery than whites are. After all, slavery existed in Africa for hundreds of years before the white man came. Blacks sold themselves into slavery.

    Here's a historical fact for you: Whites also have been enslaved by the millions in Africa, Europe, and Asia as part of the Arab Slave Trade, various European empires, or Barbary Raids. As a student, none of these historical facts were discussed in school to me.

    As a student in school, I was basically told that whites were evil, whites oppressed blacks, whites were slavemasters, and whites should take blame for slavery. That is putting the entire blame of all oppression onto whites and that's incorrect. It completely ignores the much larger histories of European, Arab, and African slaveries.

    As a child, you're not intelligent enough to question that, so it makes white school children hate themselves and feel guilt for being oppressors. Later on in life this has an effect that they have a white guilt complex. I notice this complex in many whites here in Canada.

    School systems present an extremely narrow view on slavery in school and that has the effect of making white kids hate themselves and suffer a guilt complex later on in life. This is why so many whites are Negro-sympathizers, apologists, and minority-rights champions. They feel guilty over slavery and a perceived background of oppression. I know because I went through it as a student.
     
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    I honestly found my school experience as a child to be abusive.

    I felt the School Subjects pushed and forced an image of white oppression on to me. This is completely biased in the sense that it ignores extremely large and relevant parts of history.

    I can see how Schools and their biased teaching makes white kids hate themselves and feel guilty over oppressing minorities.

    I'm wondering if anyone else experienced this in school? Specifically, how were the subjects of race/racism, slavery, and European settlement of America's taught?
     
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