Most superior race in Boxing? is it Whites, Blacks, Asians, Middle eastern, Eurasians , Polynes

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  1. RememberParisIncident

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    There is world champions in every race but some are clearly more superior than others




    Here is my analyzing


    Middle eastern: These guys have literally almost 0 world titles. They make up roughly 2.5% of the world's population

    South Asian: They make up 22% of the world population ( 1.5 billion ) but have extremely few world titles.

    North African: Very few world titles , they make up 3-4% of world's population.


    ( Middle eastern, North Africans, South Asian are the worst type of people to do boxing )

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    Asians: They lot of world champion boxers however it's mostly in lightweight or medium weight, and are almost never champions in Heavyweight, not to mention they make up only 28% of the world population.

    Polynesians: They have only several world champions however their population is only 2 million in this world. Which is only 0.03% of the world's population which it's very impressive.

    Eurasians: There are many world champions who are part Asian / part white who are 1/4 to 1/2 Asian and that's from a 1.6 million population, they make up roughly only 0.025% of world's population. Possibly the most successful minority groups in the world even Genandy Golovkin is part Asian.

    Central Asians: They are quite dominant in the Amateur world boxing not so much in big competitions but there are acceptions but than again they make up only 0.7% of world's populations

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    South American: Extremely successful, they make up 4% of the world's populations

    Blacks:
    Extremely succesful, they make up 15% of the world's populations

    Whites:
    Extremely succesful, they make up 13% of the world's population
     
  2. DixieDestroyer

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    The White race is the most superior...period.
     
  3. BoxingSpecialist2

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    There have been highly successful boxers of all races. In my own opinion, race is irrelvant when it comes to saying who makes a better boxer. It comes down to amateur experience and mentality.

    Naseem Hamed, probably Britain's most popular boxer of all of the 1990's and early 2000's (slightly before the Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe era), was an Arab long time world champion who is one of the best fighters I've ever seen. He had one punch knockout power, similar to Sergey Kovalev today but of course he was a featherweight so a much smaller man. He could take a guy out with one shot and he did, most of the time.

    Amir Khan is another example of a successful South Asian boxer. He is good, but not great like Hamed was.

    Part of the reason there aren't more Middle Eastern or South Asian boxers is because the sport is not very popular in those countries and there exists no infrastructure to support pro boxing. Its not that the athletes don't have talent, it's that the sport just isn't there. Every so often you see Arab, Turkish, andNorth African medalists in the major amateur tournaments but many times these guys don't go pro.
     
  4. united123united

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    Go and **** your self you little white boy. This is Boxing this isnt your sport. Lomachenko got ****** up by salido.
     
  5. Fighting Pride

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    Lomachenko triggers racists like you doesn't he? Nice little fairy tale about him being f'dup by Salido but you didn't watch the fight. Close on all cards, ESPN had it a draw in just his SECOND fight. Do you really think today's Lomachenko loses that fight?
     
  6. Fighting Pride

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    Whose sport is it then? Whites are well represented on BoxRec's P4P list. Whites are definitely in the mix at the elite level in boxing.
     
  7. The Truth

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    what a completely ******** Post.One of the worst posts Ive ever seen. Race is not 'irrelevent' at all. It's very relevant, because there is clearly superior races and superior nations when it comes to fighting. There has clearly been far more successful boxers by some races than there has others, so I don't know why you are lying and being a snowflake. Whites- there's been tons of highly successful boxers, Blacks - there's been tons of highly successful boxers. South Asians, and Arabs cannot fight to save their lives, they are completely hopelessly embarassingly useless at boxing.

    If Naseem Hamed was 'one of the best boxers you've ever seen' then you have incredibly low standards and obviously don't know nothing about the sport. His extremely one sided whooping by Marco Antonio Barrera the second he stepped up shows you exactly what his level was. He got battered from pillar to post the whole night, and then retired at an early age because he could not compete with the elite. He's nowhere near any list of the greatest boxers ever LOL it's very laughable to even suggest he was one of the greatest, maybe you got confused with most exciting or most flashy or something like that lol.
    The fact that he's the only decent Arab fighter ever shows you just how pathetic they are at boxing, you can probably count on one hand and have space for the amount of world champions there's been, ever! that were Arab lol

    Amir Khan is a laughing stock bum, The fact that he is the ONLY South Asian boxer to ever win a world title EVER tells you everything! He's a glass jawed, multi flowed butt of all jokes loser who will get KTFO once again on Saturday. South Asians are the worst boxers I have ever seen in my life - they all have glass jaws, feather fists and can't get to any decent level. Like the Quote from Angel Garcia '' All my life I aint never seen a pakistani that could fight'' ' the truth hurts and people don't like the truth'

    You really don't have a clue what you are talking about. Boxing is a sport with 17 weight division and 4/5 world champions per weight. There can be 70 different world champions at any one time. The Olympics are every 4 years and the World Championships are every 2 years. Yet if you look at the results you can see race definitely plays a part, because these races just are so pathetic at boxing.

    Boxing is not the most popular sport anywhere!!!! It's about if you can fight! There's South Asians, Arabs, Turks, North Africans living all over the world!! Yet they can't get to any decent level anywhere.

    South Asian males in boxing stats
    Pro World Champions , ever - Only ONE!
    Olympic Gold Medalists, in boxing ever - ZERO!
    World Championship Gold medalists ,ever - ZERO
    I could go further with that because there's loads of South Asians fighting in the UK, that are on small hall shows/leisure centres and they can't even get to domestic level, they can't even get to British title level, it's very embarassing for them.


    Ukraine is a very poor country, with a war going on, and fastly decreasing population fo just over 40 million, and hardly any money to support their Amateur Team. Yet What excuses do they Make? Zero! they make no excuses and they just constantly produce top boxers and P4P fighters non stop! Lomachenko, Usyk, Gvozdyk, Klitschko's, etc Khyzniak is P4P number 1 in the amateurs. You know why - cause they really can fight! Ukraine didn't even have the money to fund a WSB team in the last WSB series, but India, China, Colombia, Venezuala all had teams in it!

    Joe Calzaghe fought out a ******* shed for most of his career!

    India has a population of BILLIONS and you think you can make excuses lol! Pakistan, and Bangaldesh, etc huge populations. And Millions of descendants all around the world. India and Pakistan send FULL Teams to the Olympic Qualifiers and World Championships and they almost all go out in the first round. When you draw a South Asian on boxing you think it's your lucky day.

    There's LOADS of South Asians fighting in the UK, if I was to post pictures of boxing gyms in the UK that are full of them I'd be here all day! Yet they can't get past domestic level because they are weak, glass jawed, feather fisted bums with very low standards,

    I think the 'low standards' thing is one of the main reasons they are so terrible. Vijender Singh is a mediocre boxer, yet he's one of the most famous celebrities in India! He's there hero despite being a bum.


    It's the same with almost all sports, South Asians just simply suck at sport. They are very unathletic. They love football ( soccer), they all play and watch football yet they can't get to any decent level. India and Pakistan, etc have never even qualifed for the World cup ever, No South Asian in the UK has ever got to any decent level at that either.

    Turkey has a population of 80 million ,yet has never ever had a single world champion ever!!!!! They really can't fight at all



    Whites are the clear superior race n boxing. And guess what all the best white fighters come from poverty, it drives them! Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, and the council estates of the UK>

    All South Asians a (and Turks, etc) do is make stupid petty excuses for all their failures when there's been hundreds of thousands upon thousands of South Asians that have laced up the gloves al around the world, yet there's a clear trend in them failing to get to any decent level, the same as in almost every sport.

    South Asians have ZERO Talent when it comes to boxing, as all the stats back me up.
     
  8. The Truth

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    Excellent post,

    But I must add that the East Asian world champions from Japan, only seen to be able to have world champions in weight classes where there is ZERO or hardly any europeans like Minumweight and Light Flyweight, and they have the luck of having a new weight class (stupidly) ever measly 3 or 4lbs.
    If you look at Boxrec stats for Japanese., etc current boxers in every division - there is many East Asians from Featherweight to Middleweight yet thet rarely have any world champions there which I think is revealing, because they are much more compettive division where the whole world competes and there is many more boxers.


    Whites make up JUST 13% of the worlds population yet the top 3 p4p is white Lomachenko, Usyk, Alvarez. and Most of the best fighters - Golovkin, Fury, Gvozdyk, C Smith, Kovalev, Saunders, Warrington, Taylor,Beterbiev Breidis, Gassiev,Rellikh, Baranchyk, Edwards etc It just shows the Dominance.
     
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  9. The Truth

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    Belarus is a poor country, has a population of just 9 million and has just 53 current boxers

    Yet Belarus has 2 current world champions - Rellikh and Baranchyk

    Yet that's more world champions than all South Asians combined and their descendants have ever had!!! ( BILLIONS OF PEOPLE), and Turkey LOL!!!!

    Speaks volumes over who can fight and who can't!
     
  10. LucasBryant

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    You ignorant sack of sheeet. Lomachenko definitely won the fight and every boxing expert has said so or at worst called the decision highly controversial! It was Loma’s 2cd pro fight and saliva’s, yes saliva’s, 50th or so!

    Get the hell outta here with your inbred mouth breathing retardation.
     
  11. LucasBryant

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    You made lots of excellent points! And you are spot on in lots to of what you said! Keep the fight brother.

    But to say Asians, Arabs or Turks can’t fight at all is completely wrong and utterly indefensible. I’ve rarely seen anything less accurate that that statement! There are countless examples of men from all three of those groups who can fight at an elite level in different kinds of fighting. Boxing, not so much on the international scene.

    I’ve been to underground fights in a couple countries and they were bad azz men that could kill with their bare hands...not an exaggeration at all.


    You
     
  12. LucasBryant

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    Kinda Agreed in general but it’s a bit more than the reasons you’ve given for the lack of success from Arabs and South Asians.
     
  13. Odysseus

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    Whites make about 70% of all the members in the IBHOF. Nearly 75% of all boxing Olympic medalists in history have been whites, while the Eastern Europeans dominate the professional scene from the early 00's (that they started becoming professional massively). Add in the mix the dominance of the ancient Greek boxers at the Ancient Olympics (which lasted for several centuries), the dominance of white boxers from the 1880's to the late 1950's and you have your answer there.

    I've noticed that certain nationalities (Americans and Brits mostly) are very fast and eager to give a whole sport to Negroes or Mexicans, just because they did good in usually a weak era (most African-American boxers who fought in an era -1960's to 1990s- that 95% of all boxers were poor African-American), or just because they produced a couple of great champs (Williams sisters in tennis, Woods in golf ), when there have been tons of white champs in all those sports.

    There's no doubt whatsoever that whites have produced the greatest boxers in history. If one takes into account all the white Latino legends such as Roberto Duran, Carlos Monzon, Sergio Martinez, Canelo most recently etc. then the gap between whites and the rest races is even greater.
     
  14. LucasBryant

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    Roberto Duran was one of my favs and a great warrior in the ring except for one horrible performance no mas But Duran was not white! Not in any book of any intellectually honest man even Duran’s. Some latinos are white but Duran...keep it real dude. We ain’t desperate.
     
  15. LucasBryant

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    D2465B52-28EB-4B65-87F0-7A01F0DB4611.jpeg not white.
     
  16. The Hock

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    Duran would laugh in your face if you called him white. Then maybe kick your ass.
     
  17. white is right

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    Duran had a nickname of Cholo, which literally means 3/4 Amer-Indian and 1/4 European which is what he roughly is. When he fought Leonard he was "adopted" as White by some people, Leonard himself has significant European ancestry.
     
  18. Odysseus

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    He would kick my ass in like a real-world fight? Without a ref, big gloves, just throwing punches? A 5'6 short and 147lbs man would kick my ass? Like in an anything goes fight? ha ha ha. I see many of you guys in here believe in Bruce-Leeologies and Muhammad Aliologies in this forum. No wonder the white anti-whites and Jews are toying with your fragile ego so easily there. Anyway, let him kick my ass if that's what you want to believe. I won't say anything because dudes will rush to claim I am lying and "real men" or troopers don't brag publicly.

    My point is that Roberto would be classified as a white man by the US or UK media if let's say he was a cop and killed a thug. No? Alright, I will admit he's part white and not fully white, but the same dudes who worship the likes of GGG and Bivol are dismissing Duran who's as white as them according to his book, which would be 50% white. Those American white anti-whites and Jews have done an excellent job in dividing you first culturally and then racially. I mean, Canelo who's (by a naked eye at least) whiter than many members in this forum too I bet, isn't embraced because of his "Latino attitude."

    Roberto was portrayed by the fully WHITE Venezuelan Edgar Ramirez (I am sure even this dude's not fully white to some of you, but you guys are severely misfortuned to live in countries that the media are toying even with what you can CLEARLY SEE with a naked eye).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Édgar_Ramírez#/media/File:DominoPressConfbyVeraAnderson.jpg

    One way or another, I was reading that Roberto himself picked him from a cast of 127 budding "Durans." I mean, he doesn't need to say with his own mouth how he feels/sees himself when he picked someone like Edgar to portray him, but I guess the "geniuses" and "experts" of this forum know better than him for him. He definitely didn't kick any "white arses" my friends. He looked quite happy with HIS choice and outcome of the film.

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    Sorry fellas, but Roberto looks like a little tanned white man to me. Maybe I need to check my eyes?
     
  19. LucasBryant

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    Laugh in the other guy’s face not mine...I said clearly he wasn’t white.
     
  20. LucasBryant

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    You need to check more than your eyes. You’re simply intellectually dishonest and in serious need of mental health support. I could go on but I’ve made my view of you abundantly clear. You have your divisive and twisted agenda but it won’t last here much longer.
     
  21. limitless

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    I can honestly say that pound for pound, inch for inch, Lomachenko is the best boxer I have ever seen (and I have been following the sport since the 70s). He really shows the potential that white technical skills can have in the squared circle.
     
  22. white is right

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    When the Venezuelan actor portrayed Duran he either was covered in a tanning oil or fell asleep in a tanning bed. He did not have this shade that he is in this photo. Like I said before Duran isn't a full blooded Amerindian, his son who had an aborted career for all intensive purpose was White, but his mother was probably a full blooded Spaniard/European.

    As for the definition of White in Latin America, if we used that definition Duran "could be" White. In Venezuela 45 percent of the population defines themselves as White. If you look at the recent bread line and riot photos from the country, it's probably 10 to 15 percent of population is American definition of White.
     
  23. The Hock

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    When I said Duran would kick "your" ass I just meant anyone reading my post. I didn't mean either of our two protagonists in this discussion.

    Watch Duran's victory over Ken Buchanan. One man is white. The other is not.
     
  24. LucasBryant

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    45% of Venezuela claims to be white? Interesting info, I love to see a link to that info. Btw, Duran’s dad was from Panamá and his mom was Mexican. Just in case folks didn’t know his ancestry.
     
  25. LucasBryant

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    Fair enough, I wasn’t sure since you replied directly to me.
     

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