Mike Hass

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  1. white lightning

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    Now that he is 26 years of age, will the Seahawks finally give him a legitimate chance to start? This kid was one of the most exciting wide receivers to ever play college football. It is a travesty in how he has been treated by the different teams and he always ends up on the practive squad. I'm hoping he can acutally contribute this year. Just like Don has said many times before, they screw these guys over until they are in their late 20's. Then sometimes they get a chance. The same thing happened to Kevin Curtis. What a joke. I really hope Mike plays this year.
     
  2. WHITE NOISE

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    I hope so. I used to watch the Beavers during home games and Hass was absolutely could not be covered. Most of those games were in the PAC 10 conference where all the gifted afroletes play.

    I would seriously think of becoming a Seahawks fan if they give him a shot, but I'm not holding my breath after what they did to Urban and Lumsden.
     
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    Breaking down the Seahawks roster
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    Wide receiver

    This position group will be one of the most competitive position battles for Seattle during training camp, and should emerge as a strength. Free agent acquisition T.J. Houshmandzadeh has picked up the offense well, and developed some chemistry with Hasselbeck. Nate Burleson and Deion Branch seem to be coming along after rehabbing their respective knee injuries. Deon Butler has shown glimpses of becoming a playmaker. The real fight for a roster spot will occur for the last two spots, as Seattle is likely to keep only six receivers. I give Ben Obomanu and Billy McMullen the nod for right now. Obomanu is a complete receiver who does everything competently and also can return punts. McMullen has done a nice job catching the ball and gives Seattle a big target in the red zone. But Jordan Kent, Courtney Taylor and Logan Payne are right on their tails. And all Mike Haas has done is find ways to get open and make plays when the ball has been thrown to him during offseason workouts. Don't count out the Oregon State product.
     
  4. whiteathlete33

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    Hass is getting screwed real bad. These would be his prime years. If he doesn't become a starter somewhere soon he may not have a career.Edited by: whiteathlete33
     
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    Here, I'm going to try playing Seahawks' GM. I guarantee with me as GM they'd have a better record, b/c I'd play the best-not the darkest. I recruit the best athletes, not only Afroletes.

    If Burleson finally proves he grasps the offense this year- and that is a big if- than he's the starting split-end because of the need for speed with Houshmandzadeh and Hass as the #2 and #3 who both run around a 4.6.

    The number two WR spot goes to Houshmandzadeh because he has already proven himself to be a quality Flanker-he's better than Burleson, but is more suited as a Flanker.

    In the # 3 slot WR spot I think Hass is ideal and- if fair- should emerge as the #3 (in fact Hass is pretty similar to Houshmandzadeh for his skillset and style of play).

    The number 4 backup outside WR spot would be a battle between Logan Payne who is coming off injury (but had shown signs last year) and Deon Butler who both have youth on their side.

    The 6th spot could go to perpetually injured Branch, but if I were the GM I might cut him loose if he doesn't cause a huge cap hit to pave way for cheaper, bigger, younger and/ or faster players.

    If Branch was cut- I'd sign Matt Jones to a one year contract. This is only if Jones will sign a one year contract for around 1 million. He deserves a 2nd chance that every afrolete (with even a tad of talent) gets even- when it's a MUCH more serious charge. For instance- prime suspect in attempted murder with a gun- one of which caused paralysis of another man (Harrison, PacMan), accessory to murder or maybe the possible actual murderer (Ray Lewis), DUI Manslaughter (Stallworth, Little etc. etc.). Or Plaxico and his semi-automatic completely stupid accidental gun fire escapade or Michael Vick the dog killer and torturer- who are likely to be back in the league with in a couple of years I predict.

    Fair depth chart with currently tendered players.

    #1: Nate Burleson- if he can prove he's made strides.
    #2: T.J Houshmandzadeh- better than Burleson, but he's a true Flanker.
    #3: Mike Hass- he's perfect for the slot role.
    #4: Logan Payne- unless Butler proves better in training camp/preseason.
    #5: Deon Butler- Ran a 4.38-40 and had a good career at PSU- he's also known to be a smart high character guy.
    #6: Deion Branch- The guy used to be pretty good in NE, but he's had multiple injuries and youth isn't on his side anymore. It's time to see what the younger guys with potential can do.

    If Matt Jones was signed- He'd be the #1 WR and you'd drop down the rest of the guys one slot on the depth chart...Except, I'd start Houshmandzadeh in the slot role as the #2 and "MIGHT" play Burleson as an outside WR in the #3 role. But come to think of it, I'd probably play Hass at #3, b/c we already would have a more proven field stretcher than Burleson in Jones. So Hass over Burleson as the #3 unless Burleson- really shows serious signs that he will be a break out game-breaker this year.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
  6. WHITE NOISE

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    Oh God, it sounds like Hass is getting screwed again. Talk about stacking the deck, not that any of those afroletes are superior, it's just there are so many listed above him that he will get cut due to not having enough space on the team. This season was now or never for Hass, he should have been starting on an NFL team three years ago, as he was one of the best receiver in his draft class.
     
  7. Jimmy Chitwood

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    hold up, Tough. i'm not letting this slide.

    you seriously think Huzmancant'spellhisname is better than Mike Hass because he's proven himself in the NFL? really?!? how can Hass, or anyone for that matter, prove they are better if they're never given an opportunity? they can't, and that's why this site was started. in any measure of important football factors, other than melanin content in the skin, Hass has proven himself the better player. but let's take a closer look, shall we?

    physically, they couldn'tappear more similar aside from their skin color. both are very near the same size and speed. however, the important comparisons ALL favor Hass. in a BIG way. but you'll see the benefit of the doubt has been given to Hugivesacrap in every single case ...

    Hugemandingo only played one year in the Pac-10 after transferring from a junior college, which he attended because he flunked and droppedout of high school. despite his being borderline retarded, he was given a "scholar"ship to Oregon State.

    Mike Hass, on the other hand, had to walk-on to Oregon State (the same exact school) aftere not receiving a single Division One scholarship offer. this despite shattering virtually every scoring and receiving record in Oregon High School history as a First-Team All-State and all-everything wideoutAND defensive back and Oregon Offensive Player of the Year and .... you get the idea.

    in his only year at Oregon State,Hugivesadamn caught 42 passes for 656 yards and 6 touchdowns.

    Hass played three seasons at Oregon State, and surpassed 1,000 yards in each of them on his way to shattering every individual season and career receiving record at OSU and most in the Pac-10 and winning the Biletnikoff Award.

    Hass' WORST season was nearly twice as good as Huzgettinpaidfornotbeingasgood.

    mentally, too, the edge goes to Hass, ashe earned an engineering degree and was an academic All-American. Huzgonnaneedhelpcountingpastfive did not ... come close to graduating.

    but other than both being drafted very late, the comparisons have since gone back to the same old same old. the negro got the benefit of the doubt, whereas the proven White winner has gotten the shaft.

    so, please forgive me if i don't share your opinion of who is better. because i certainly do not.
     
  8. Bart

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    Ha ha. Good post Jimmy. Made me laugh. Humorous and informative.
     
  9. P-NutLane

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    HaHaHa, that is a classic post by Mr. Chitwood. I agree that the ex-gangbanger could not hold the jock of Hass, and has never deserved to make a red penny on the gridiron.
     
  10. WHITE NOISE

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    Can't let slow, short and hip swivel impaired whitey show up the black corners now can we? Hass will not see the light of day on the Seahawks' roster. I am not trying to be pessimistic, but this is the way it is and will only get worse. I was hoping things would change for Hass in Seattle, but fear they will not. And incidentally, Hass is the better receiver than Hoosbeenshotta.
     
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    JC, I never said that "Houshyurbabiesdaddy" is better than Hass. I just said that he has been a starter in the NFL already and has been playing in the league longer (he's a longer tendered veteran) and has played very well. I agree that they are similar for playing style and physical ability (I actually said that in my post). By the looks of it, Hass has the same sort of athletic ability and he's smarter and a former Biletnikoff winner.

    If things were actually fair in the NFL, Hass would- hands down- be the BIG front runner to man the #3 slot WR job. He'd then be destined to move eventually into the #2 Flanker spot when Houshyurbabiesdaddy moves on or slows down.

    I wish the Seahawks would sign Matt Jones and play him as the #1 Split-End and bring back Tyler Roehl next season as their Powerback as (at least) a partner in a dual threat backfield. Hands down Matt Jones is more talented than Nate Burleson and he was on pace for 1,000 receiving yards last year if he played all 16 games. Hey, a man can dream for things that won't happen right?Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
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    Miks Hass has worked his butt off. He should be the second receiver on almost any team in the league. He would be a great complement to a player like Moss or Andre Johnson. I am with Jimmy on this one too. He is a much more complete receiver than HOUzamandeh or whatever his name is.Edited by: whiteathlete33
     
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    I was watching him on youtube, and on one clip, he makes one of the best TD catches anybody has ever seen. In the comments people were saying what a great throw Chris Leak had made!
     
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    With Billy Mcmullen getting cut today by Seahawks, chances of either Hass or Payne making the team just went up a little.
     
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    Yesterday evening's practice was mostly uneventful, or so the reports would read, but at least one player of interest earned recognition.

    PLAY OF THE DAY

    Mike Hass, a third-year receiver from Oregon State who's in his first camp with the Seahawks, turned in the NFL equivalent of a hat trick by running a good route, making an even better move to get behind the defender and then tipping the pass with one hand before controlling it with two hands as he was falling out of bounds.

    The best part of the bang-bang-bang play? "The best part was catching it â€" just coming down with the ball," Hass said. "The route was all right, I could have gotten a little more separation. But I'll definitely go with the catch."

    Hass is a bit of a dark horse to make the roster, but don't count out a late run. His refinement should serve him in the preseason, and though he was unsuccessful in Chicago, his skill-set is not well matched to Ron Turner's downfield passing attack. Hass could blossom in the shorter and more precise modified West Coast Greg Knapp will run. Hass has to make the team to stick, but to make the team he'll need to show something both as a receiver and a special team player.link
     
  16. Jimmy Chitwood

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    Hass is a phenomenal receiver. that the so-called reporters seem to think he can hope to "make the roster" shows just how little the NFL really cares about putting the best product on the field.

    that whole line about not being a deep threat is a complete joke, because he roasted Pac-10 db's for three years. yet those same db's are filling depth charts around the league while Hass is buried on a practice squad somewhere ...

    every time he gets on the field he makes plays, so maybe he should get on the field more often. jeez. it's not complicated.
     
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    More of the same old same old:


    <H3>Mike Hass and Jordan Kent combined would make a 'can't-miss' NFL wide receiver</H3>
    <H4>Posted by Aaron Fentress, The Oregonian August 09, 2009 22:30PM</H4>
    <DIV =categories>Categories: Beavers, NFL View
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    <DIV ="photo-right medium" style="DISPLAY: none">[​IMG]Seattle Seahawks wide receivers Jordan Kent and Mike Hass are chasing the same goal, but doing so armed with polar opposite sets of tools.


    Kent, a track and basketball star at Churchill High School and the University of Oregon, has the speed, body type and athleticism NFL teams covet. But he must make up for not having played football until his junior year with the Ducks.
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    Hass, out of Jesuit High School and Oregon State, is a more polished receiver with the savvy and skill teams strive to teach. But despite a knack for making big plays, he has been dogged by questions about his lack of speed.


    If Dr. Frankenstein were to splice the two receivers together, he would create one of the most dynamic pass-catching targets in all of football. Someone in the mold of Detroit's Calvin Johnson or New England's Randy Moss. "Together, you'd probably have a can't-miss guy," said an NFL scout.


    But separately, each is fighting for his NFL life. And time is running out for both. Hass spent two seasons on the Chicago Bears' practice squad and one on their 53-man roster, appearing in one game. Kent played in nine games with Seattle last season. Neither is eligible for a practice squad this season.


    The question is, can either compensate for what they lack to stick with Seattle?


    "Hass has the ideal foundation but does not have the ability to ascend too high," the scout said. "Kent has a little less foundation but more potential. Whichever one can make up the difference in what he lacks is the one who has the chance to make it."


    Making matters tougher is that Seattle has 10 receivers (it released Billy McMullen on Saturday), with four considered locks to make the roster. That leaves the other seven, including Kent and Hass, to fight for two positions.


    "Both of those guys have good work ethics," Seahawks wide receivers coach Robert Prince said. "Mike, he might be a little more polished having played a lot of his life. And Jordan, he's been really working on his game."


    Kent's innate talent was on display Sunday at Seattle's practice in Renton, Wash. He drew cheers for several spectacular catches during 11-on-11 drills, including a leaping reception of an overthrown pass from Seneca Wallace.
    A breakdown of Hass' and Kent's strengths:
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    Football IQ: Hass has been underrated his entire career. He was forced to walk-on at Oregon State after not receiving a scholarship offer despite scoring 27 touchdowns his senior year at Jesuit and wound up winning the Fred Biletnikoff Award his senior year with the Beavers. Proving people wrong in the NFL has been a tougher road. But what helps him keep getting chances is that he is a football player to his core and understands the nuances of the game. Kent has shown a tremendous learning curve since taking up the sport in 2005. But his lack of thorough knowledge of the position hurt him last year when he was thrust into action following numerous injuries at the position. "He's a very good person and has shown a willingness and eagerness to learn," the scout said.
    Advantage: Hass


    Route running: Hass caught 176 passes over his junior and senior seasons at OSU despite opposing teams gearing their defenses to stop him. The reason? Hass demonstrated an ability to manipulate defenses and get to the open spot regardless of the coverage. "He had a good sense for routes and the other thing, he gets very good leverage," the NFL scout said. "He can get open in short areas and he knows the angles and how to get his body into position. Mike has a very good base and strength and balance, and strength on the catch. His nuances there really help." Kent has had to work overtime to become adequate in learning how to use his upper body to dip, lean and deceive defensive backs. But he has yet to prove he's a reliable target in tight situations.
    Advantage: Hass


    Body type: NFL teams couldn't sculpt a better receiver's frame than what Kent possesses. At 6-foot-4, 219 pounds, Kent dwarfs most quarterbacks and has explosive leaping ability to out-jump any defensive back for a pass. And his wiry, but muscular frame is strong enough to allow him to be physical when needed. "Kent obviously has the athletic traits with being sort of a Bruce Jenner-type athlete," the scout said. At 6-1, 206, Hass offers nothing spectacular physically. But he's no slouch. Strong and well built, Hass has always proven durable.
    Advantage: Kent


    Hands: Reports out of Chicago Bears training camps in 2007 and 2008 were that Mike Hass put on daily shows by making fantastic catches and rarely - if ever - dropped a pass. And his abilities are not limited to routine consistency. Hass has demonstrated an ability to make receptions no matter what the degree of difficulty. Kent's hand-eye coordination for the routine catch was honed on the basketball court. Adjusting to deeper throws at unfamiliar angles was his challenge. But over time, he's developed into a consistent receiver on the practice field, if not in games. But he's still improving. Said Prince: "Jordan is a guy that is very proactive. He comes in early in the morning to work (on his hands). He knows what he needs to do to get better and he will do what it takes. He can really go catch the ball better than people think, he's really worked on his game."
    Advantage: Hass


    Speed: A track star most of his life, Kent is blessed with elite speed. He was easily Seattle's fastest receiver last year and this season is second only to rookie Deon Butler, clocked in the 4.3 second range in the 40-yard dash at this year's NFL Scouting Combine. As for Hass, hie lack of speed is somewhat overrated. "Mike Hass is a lot faster than people think," Prince said. Hass ran a 4.59 at the NFL combine. Comparatively, the legendary Jerry Race was clocked at 4.55 coming out of college. "I think Mike's speed is good enough," the scout said. "His times were faster than other successful receivers like Anquan Boldin (Arizona) and Marty Booker (Chicago and Miami), to name a few."
    Advantage: Kent


    Quickness: While Hass' speed might be underrated, his lack of elite quickness cannot be denied. "His deficiency is more in his re-start quickness, change of direction quickness," the scout said. "He doesn't really have real quick feet." Because of his height, Kent does not have the same level of elite quickness as many smaller receivers. But Kent excelled as a defender in basketball because of his ability to move his feet quickly. That change of direction quickness has helped him on the football field, as well, where he has improved his ability to shorten his stride to make sharp, quick cuts on route and regain acceleration.
    Advantage: Kent


    Analysis: It's going to be an uphill battle for either to make the team this season. But of the two, Kent would appear to have the best shot, given that he has something no other on the roster has - height and size. And should he not be released, chances are there could be teams lining up to give him another opportunity given his physical gifts. "He's a guy you would take a flier on because he has some things you can't coach," the scout said.
    http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2009/08/making_a_cantmiss_receiver.html
     
  18. Jimmy Chitwood

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    how can a guy who "has a knack for making big plays" not get on the field?!?! i mean, WTF?!?!

    also, Tough probably has this written somewhere, but i seem to recall that Hass ran incredible times in the agility drills, which would give lie to the notion that he doesn't have elite quickness ... his ability to change direction on a dime and accelerate is what allows him to create such HUGE separation. jeez. do these guys even bother researching their subject matter before writing this crap? the answer to the redundant question is no, of course. *rant*

    also, how is Mike Hass "too small" to be a wideout? the Seahawks start Nate Burlestonehands (who is shorter and skinnier than Hass) and TJ Hugivesadamn (who is only an inch taller but is skinnier than Hass), and the other two "locks" for the team are Deion Branch and Deon Butler who are both 3-4 inches shorter than Hass AND skinny enough that Hass could break them in half.

    so, the reality is that once again the facts mean nothing. even when a White player is taller and stronger than his black counterparts, he is still too short and too weak to be considered ...

    and when a black athlete looks good with his shirt off, the media drools over their "potential" regardless of the fact that they can't play worth a damn. i wonder if this "reporter" gives himself a rub and tug after eyeballing Kent in the shower ...

    this is pathetic! it's the Caste System in full effect.
     
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    Dumb reporter. Mike Hass getting a real chance to play on the field would make a 'can't miss NFL wide receiver'

    I am still mad at the Saints getting rid of Hass, he looked good in camp. As much as I think Lance Moore is a decent receiver, that should be Hass out there instead. Lance Moore spent time on the practice squad and stepped up last year and put up around 900 yards last year when Colston went down with a thumb injury. He's like 5'8 and smaller than Hass, he is not that fast, Id give Hass the edge in speed, a little quick although I'd say Hass is quicker. He just runs good routes and has good hands which Hass also is better at. The only edge Moore has is pigmentation, and he isn't even that black, he looks to be like 1/8th(for some reason Saints fans seem to love players who possess mostly White features but have a little black in them[it might have to do with us having alot of creoles who are slightly black i dunno], like Billy Miller the TE half of the Saints fans think is better than Shockey (they must be delusional) Hass is twice the receiver he is yet Moore is now a starter with the Saints and Hass is with his 3rd team trying to earn a roster spot. Brees loves Lance Moore because he is consistent and always where he is supposed to be and reliable to catch it. Imagine if that was Hass out there instead of Moore, he would have probably had 1,000 yards.Edited by: dwid
     
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    Great post. Hass ran a 4.59 at the NFL Combine in the 40 yard dash (he ran a 4.56/4.58 at his Pro Day), but ran an impressive 4.15 short shuttle. This gives him an agility mark of 0.44 and would have placed him #1 at last year's combine for WRs (FYI, the top 2 WRs at last years combine for agility mark were in fact Caucasians (Hartline and Swift)- it would have been the top 3 if you counted Collie's Pro Day short shuttle instead of his combine one and it could have been 5 Caucasians at the top of the list- if you counted Julian Edelman and Eric Peterman's Pro Day results). If you compare Hass to the 2009 NFL combine RBs- he would have been a very close third place. Hass ran a pretty impressive 6.97 3-Cone, but put forth an all-time great performance at his Pro Day- when he ran a blazing and EYE POPPING 6.52. The latter time would put him on the top 25 list for Combine 3-Cone times since 1999. As far as acceleration, Hass didn't impress at the Combine running only a 1.6 flat 10 yard clip.

    But I think what this tells us, is Hass' burst is not very impressive, but he cuts on a dime so he has good overall "SHORT AREA QUICKNESS". The guy loses basically no speed in and out of his breaks. He is fearless and simply will not be denied the ball. Hass adjusts to the ball phenomenally and has hands of glue. Plus he has a sturdy frame and is stronger than given credit for. What more can you want in a WR for a Slot man or Flanker to move the chains?

    And if you want to talk about performance, he was a frekin Biletnikoff winner for God sakes. Here's what NFLdraftscout says about Hass' amazing performances at the NFL level for the Saints and Bears. We all know this got him absolutely ZILCH though:

    08/21/06 - WR Mike Hass (sixth round) is making a good impression as he makes up for missing most of the off-season workouts because he had to return to school at Oregon State. (He was then cut by the Saints)


    08/05/07 - WR Mike Hass has caught everything thrown his way in camp this year. While newly converted wide receiver Devin Hester and rookie TE Greg Olsen have been the offensive stars of training camp so far, they haven't caught the ball any better or more consistently than Hass. He spent last season on the practice squad when the Bears snapped him up after the Saints drafted him in the fifth round but then waived him, hoping to sneak him back onto their practice squad. After eight days of practices, no one can recall Hass dropping a pass. Not in 11-on-11 team segments, seven-on-seven work or individual receiving drills. Still, with starters Muhsin Muhammad and Bernard Berrian ahead of him plus Mark Bradley, Devin Hester and Rashied Davis, Hass is competing with Drisan James, David Ball, Brandon Rideau and Timon Marshall for, at the most, one spot. [​IMG] He's the early leader based on his flawless hands and good size (6-foot-1, 206 pounds). "I'm pleased, but I still have a ways to go learning some hot (reads) and protections and those types of thing," he said. "I just have to keep making plays. If I make enough plays, I'll open enough eyes and good things will happen for me." Hass was in a similar situation when he enrolled at Oregon State as a walk-on, and that worked out pretty well for him. The Portland, Ore., native won the 205 Fred Biletnikoff Award as the top receiver in the nation after catching 90 passes for 1,532 yards.

    08/31/08 - WR Mike Hass was released by Chicago. [​IMG]
     
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    Good stuff ToughJ. We all know Hass isn't a burner but he is a great route runner and has one of the best hands in the business. 4.56/4.58 are not terrible times. They are actually decent. Considering he has great agility he could be a Wes Welker type.
     
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    A good article on Hass:
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    Recent reports out of the Seattle Seahawks' Organized Team Activities suggest Mike Hass is a Pro Bowler waiting to happen.

    Tell that to T.J. Houshmandzadeh.

    Tell that to Deion Branch and Nate Burleson.

    Hell, send Logan Payne an e-mail.

    The fact is, this isn't news. In fact, to anyone who knows about Mike Hass and his under valued abilities, it's getting fairly repetitive.

    Let's be honest. Receivers aren't what they used to be.

    No longer do they make rosters based on being able to actually catch the ball. No, instead, their ability to succeed in the NFL is based on their talent after they catch the ball.

    Interesting, considering half the receivers in the league can't do the first.
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    Just look at the film. Hass is a superb athlete.
    He makes defenders miss, leaps for balls, makes acrobatic catches, and scores touchdowns at will.
    He's made the transition, speed be damned, and he's catching everything coaches (and quarterbacks) can throw at him.
    It's about time someone tosses him an actual contract.

    &lt;snip&gt;

    And I'll throw in a Nice Youtube video for y'all. Cheers!

    Hass-Brings-It
     
  23. P-NutLane

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    Im sick of having 40 times thrown around like its all that matters in football. People need to forget 40 times, and look at on field production. Hass is the best WR in Seattle. The fans are so drunk its crazy. Even if it took him 8 seconds to run the 40, nobody can gaurd the man. Put him on the gridiron, let the man shine!
    Good find ToughJ. [​IMG] Edited by: P-NutLane
     
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    Hass also jumped an impressive 36.5 inches at his Pro Day compared to his very average 32 inches for an NFL WR at the combine.

    Hass' has solid measurables
     
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    I wasn't aware of the vertical jump. That is impressive. All Hass lacks is a little straight line speed. I am willing to bet he is just slightly below the NFL average for a wide receiver with his 40 time.

    I also notice he did slightly better on Pro Day than at the Combine.Edited by: whiteathlete33
     

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