McNabb nonsense....

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  1. Deadlift

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    I'm ticked that Andy Reid benched McNabb. What followed was predictable. The affletes left Kevin Kolb out to dry. That 108 yard interception return should never have gone for 108 yards.

    I'm not at all worried about the Kolb bashing, which seems to be largely concentrated through radio and not so much on television. The fact that the Eagles' have to throw when they're at the goal-line has been pointed out by some of the talking-heads. They are just another ineffective sumo unit. The Caste System may actually be hurting McNabb!!


    I wanted McNabb to play all 4 quarters so rookie Joe Flacco could defeat "future HOF" McNabb. Andy Reid is the punk and villain here.
     
  2. bigunreal

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    There has been a great deal of discussion about the benching of McNabb. The jock-sniffers on ESPN and the NFL Network, without exception, took great offense to this, and consider it to have been "disrespectful" to McNabb. The one thing you must do in Don King's America is to "respect" all African Americans. Especially when they are affletes.

    Seriously, they are treating this like it is an issue of paramount importance. So McNabb had to sit down for a half after playing terribly the past two games. They act as if this had never happened to any QB before. It is laughable to hear the same old excuses for his bad play, which are used interchangably for all black QBs: no "weapons," no running game, offensive line problems, bad play calling, etc. I heard some clown claim that the only "deep threat" McNabb has is Desean Jackson. Kevin Curtis was, I believe, perhaps the fastest man in the NFL a few years ago. He's a deep threat. He also had over 1000 yards last season, despite being targeted far less often than other 1000 receivers. But we all know the Eagles have to "upgrade" that position.
     
  3. foreverfree

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    Cards/Eagles is on NFL Network. Doesn't NFLN only reach about 40% of households? So the return of McCaste won't take place "in front of the entire country".

    John
     
  4. jaxvid

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    Too much is made of benching starting QB's. In the old days it was common to sit a guy on a bad day, it was done with Unitas, Starr, everyone. It's like a star pitcher that has a bad outing--it happens. But with the tremendous growth in ego driven playing decisions coaches are forced to stick with QB's that are having bad games or risk damaging their fragile pysche's. It's no big deal.
     
  5. Don Wassall

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    It's always a big deal when the starter is black and the backup white. Coaches are better off having QBs of the same race. When Byron Leftwich was benched and then discarded no one could blame it on race as he was replaced by David Garrard. Black Jack Del Rio was shrewd in that sense.


    For a while in college it was in vogue to deliberately alternate between two quarterbacks, one the pocket passer (aka the one who could read defenses and throw accurately), the other one the "athlete," but that trend didn't last long. The racial tensions are alwaysjust below the surfaceeven when no one talks about them.
     
  6. sport historian

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    I have written previously on the Forum about the attacks from the black press in LA when the Rams benched James Harris in 1976. The irony is that Harris was out of football when the Rams signed him as a free agent in 1972.

    I am convinced that this kept any team from going with a black QB for the next several years. Nobody wanted the racial static they would get if they had to bench a black starting QB for poor play. Replacing black with white made it that much worse.
     
  7. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I absolutely agree that the racial tension issue is the biggest detriment to defeating the caste system. Black RBs feel insulted to play behind any white at that position. It is reinforced by the drunken fans and multi-cultural media believing in black supremacy at tailback.

    I think the fact that Sam McGuffie was having so much difficulty feeling comfortable at Michigan had to do with him being the lone white RB starting as a freshman with vocal (or should I say angry) black veteran backups demanding more time.

    This is why we still may not see for a long time two white WRs starting even with the inroads we are making. It just looks too racist to the drunken fans, multi-cultural/Rivals/Tom Luginbill media and the black WRs on the team!

    It will take a groundbreaking book to be published exposing the caste system along with more Youtube exposure and a fairer media to defeat the caste system! Only then will it look "sane" to have a couple white tailbacks on an NFL roster with the white starting!
     
  8. Weltner

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    So,not only did McNubb not know, but just about every Black player in the NFL is unaware of a rule which has only been in place since 1974. Whitey is to blame for their ignorance,you know....
     
  9. Tom Iron

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    So what's the latest on McNabb for next year? Are they going to let this guy run the offense for another Year, or will this be McNabbs last year in Philly?

    Tom Iron...
     
  10. celticdb15

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    Tom my guess is they keep him. Depends on whether or not he chokes against the cowboys..
     
  11. Deadlift

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    On ESPN's "First Take" the other day and AGAIN today, the McNabb excuse-makers were out in full-force!

    They decided to throw DeSean Jackson (who dropped passes) under the bus to save McNabb! Dropped passes can be a problem, but, wait -- isn't this the same DeSean that was being proclaimed a superstar earlier in the season?? HAHA!

    So, once again, we witness the classic argument for a black QB -- "His receivers are subpar." What happened to Brent Celek?

    I find his excuse-makers to be hilarious because McNabb is largely a dink-and-dunk QB. Very short passes to Westbrook over and over. If McNabb is something more at this point in his career, he needs to show it and soon.


    Look at what Matt Ryan did with Roddy White. Does anyone on CF think that pro-bowler Roddy White could mend the Eagles "receiver" problems? Heck no, I say!

    McNabb is not a reliable vertical passer. He would also throw more "bad bad evil" picks and what would the excuse be then? Thank goodness McNabb didn't make the Pro Bowl. He's not a scary QB; He doesn't scare you.
     
  12. Thrashen

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    "McNabb is not a reliable vertical passer."


    Well said, man. "Reliable" is the key word. I actually hope he sticks around in Philly for a couple more seasons. I want the DWF's to finally watch their hero fall into obscurity. I want to watch the media conjure up excuse after excuse until it's finally over.

    I'm from PA, and I've literally seen 10,000 grown white males wearing jerseys that read "McNabb," "Westbrook," "Cole," among others. Not to mention the complete lowlives who attend Eagles games (or any NFL game). Even as a young kid, I thought wearing another guy's jersey was hilariously gay. I suppose I'm in the minority.

    Can you imagine being so wimpy that you'd actually PAY to go watch a team of black thugs from "your home town" playing football. What's in it for the fans, anyway? Yet another opportunity to swill beer and get fatter? I don't think it's that simple with these morons. I think they thrive on the "inferiority" complex.
     
  13. Deadlift

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    Look at all the great White QB's that have come from the state of Pennsylvania. Do you see guys wearing their jerseys?

    Are Matt Ryan jerseys popular in PA?
     
  14. Don Wassall

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    For several years an army of white "men" sported Kordell Stewart jerseys in the Pittsburgh region. They were as enamored of "Slash" as Bill Cowher was for a long time.


    Very few wore Bradshaw jerseys, but the whole jersey phenomenon is fairly recent. Now the fans show "solidarity" with the over-paid, thuggish mercenaries supposedly representing their city by wearing team colors to games.
     
  15. sport historian

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    Before the late 60's, people dressed up to go to a football game . Now, they dress down. I first went to an SEC football game in 1964. Many people dressed as they would to go to church. Around 1970, this stopped and you began to see fans decked out in the team colors. This is when wearing team colors became fashionable at both college and pro games.

    About this time, coaches began to wear what looked like jogging suits with ball caps. During the 1950's and early 60's, the coaches wore suit and ties, as well as hats.

    When you watch the documentary on the 1958 NFL Title game, note how the fans are dressed when the camera pans the stands. The head coaches Weeb Ewbank and Jim Lee Howell have on the suit, tie, and hat.
     
  16. Nonsmokerallen

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    I think that 2 ties per season should be the limit. More than 2 ties
    would make a mockery of the NFL season and would also muddy the playoff
    picture. Any further game must end in a decision after 2 regular-season
    ties have already been recorded. The Detroit Lions could go 0-14-2(2 ties)
    next season, but then no other games except the two involving the Detroit
    Lions would be allowed to end in a tie. Two ties would actually be an
    improvement for the 0 and 16(winless with no ties) for the Detroit Lions. If
    Philadelphia ties Minnesota in the wildcard game after 60 minutes, then play
    must continue to determine who goes on to the divisional round!
     
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    Although I wasn't around back then, I know thats the way it was. Most Ole Miss students still wear dress slacks, white shirts, and ties to the games, and you still see a few of them wearing jackets. It is sad to see how much our society has regressed in its dress code. Truly shameful to see some of these thugs walking around with their pants on their knees. [​IMG]
     
  18. Don Wassall

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    What's wrong with them? [​IMG]Seriously, that's impressive, didn't know that was done anywhere anymore.


    Young people probably find old movies too boring to watch, but just look at the people in the background scenes (well-dressed, well-behaved, overwhelmingly white) and you see the way the people in thiscountry looked and acted until very recently inour history.


    It's beyond me how anyone can look at how black males dress and think it's "cool." Even when wearing suits many pick out the most ridiculous looking one in the store. [​IMG]is the word that comes to mind when I see them, not cool.
     
  19. Colonel_Reb

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    Right on about blacks and suits, Don.Totally ridiculous.


    Ole Miss used to different in many ways, although I hear Alabama's student section dresses up too. There are still a few vestiges of "tradition" left.


    Here's a pic of the Ole Miss student section from 2006.


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    Some students in the Grove pregame in 2007.


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    My personal favorite-the win over Florida in 2002-I was there too


    [​IMG]Edited by: Colonel_Reb
     
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    Right on. I am originally from Philly area, and although want to see the local teams do well, I have my limits and that includes joining McNabb worship which is a love-hate relationship with the "crybaby" and DWFs. We are not in the minority, there are a cadre of other white guys who comment about this as well. I will NEVER wear an Eagles jersey with a black mans name on it. Ackers, Herremans, Runyan, etc...yes.

    Not sure how far they will make it into the playoffs, but if they get past the Giants it WON'T be due to the "crybaby" a more defensive game maybe(?)

    I also agree about the low-lifes. I have been to a few games the past 2 yrs inc and was amazed by the amount of drunkedness, definitely the majority of the Eagles fans and that includes a game in Seattle this year. Sad really. I wonder how many of these people have taken out a 2nd mortgage to worship overpaid ball droppers...?
     
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    After three years on the bench it looks like the Kevin Kolb era may be on the verge of beginning in Philly as McNabb is on the trading bloc. Buffalo, Oakland and St. Louis have been the three teams most prominently mentioned as being interested. Oakland would be a good choice as McNabb would pretty much be replacing a failed black QB (though Gradkowski is now the starter there). Too bad Curtis has had knee problems, it would have been nice to see Kolb throwing to him and Celek, but Celek should really thrive if McNabb leaves.

    Warren Moon has been the only black QB who remained effective past his early 30s; any team that trades for McNabb will be taking a chance, but then again it doesn't seem like the Eagles are asking for all that much (reportedly one of the first 42 draft picks).

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/12321/did-andy-reid-make-the-right-pitch
     
  22. whiteathlete33

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    McNabb probably will be traded but if Porky had his way he would still be the starter for the Eagles for years to come.
     
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    From Rotoworld: ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms that Kevin Kolb is fully expected to be the Eagles' starting quarterback in 2010. Also according to Schefter, Donovan McNabb will be on another team's roster by the time his $6.2 million roster bonus comes due on May 5. Kolb projects to be an immediate upgrade in terms of accuracy for the Birds, and is a candidate for a big contract extension as he enters the final year of his rookie deal.
     
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    It's about time Kolb get an opportunity to shine. I think Celek will have an even better season with Kolb as the starting quarterback. That gives us a grand total of what 3 starting white players on the Eagles.
     
  25. DixieDestroyer

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    Hats off to Kolb...it's high time he got the starting nod! [​IMG] As for "DonYOvan" McNabb, I'm not surprised tribesman Davis' "YOakland Gayders" are one of the top suitors. McNabb has been the best "afflete" QB in the league for a while, but has also been overhyped many times...as he's not in the top tier with P.Manning, Brees & Brady.
     

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