Mayweather vs McGregor could be around the corner!

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  1. Kaptain

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    I'm finally going to say it but I've thought it since the beginning: I think Conor has a good chance of winning. In fact I think he will win with a late round knockout. Hate to break it to you but boxing is not a "sweet science" - if it were boxers would all get better with age and they don't - they get much much worse. In all combat sports there are a some things that hold true throughout; 1) Size makes a difference. That's why there are many weight classes with only a few pounds difference. 2) Age makes a difference. Anybody see what Fedor looks like at 40? How about compare Roberto Duran at 25 to Duran at just 35 - not even the same human.

    These boxers are held up on a pedestal as if they are mythical unbeatable heros. The fact is that very few athletes even try boxing. It's a sport that is participated in by a decreasing few throughout the world. If some Mexican slug named Madonna (sp?) can pound Mayweather from post to post then why can't Conor who is larger, more naturally athletic, and throws a better technical punch?
     
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    8 oz gloves approved. It appears that May thinks this will be a cake walk/ beat down of Conor say after 3 rds. I hope Conor shocks the world.
     
  3. f3d0r

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    Im rooting for connor. But in your asessment of older guys, im not so sure. Most fighters are in prime mid 30s now. Wlad, federer, fedor, tom brady etc were all prime mid 30s,esp due to modern science.

    I agree with you with 40s though. Wlad would and should have battered Joshua in mid 30s but age and poor tactics let him down :(
     
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    From Eastside Boxing

    They are arguably the two most naturally talented boxers fighting today (although with his brilliant performance on Saturday night, Terence Crawford is ranked as number-one in the eyes of many fight fans) – and promoter Bob Arum wants to match them together in what he says would be an “historic” fight.

    Vasyl Lomachenko Vs. Guillermo Rigondeaux – a fight that has been in the works, at least as a possibility, for some months; due in large part to the unbeaten Cuban’s campaign on social media – is reportedly very close to being made for December 9 in New York, with ESPN set to televise.



    As per a piece on RingTV.com, the fight, if it does happen, will see Lomachenko defend his WBO 130 pound title against the 122 pound champ, so there will be no catch-weight involved. Arum is very keen to get the fight signed, sealed and delivered.

    “It would be a historic milestone in my career,” Arum said on the subject of a Lomachenko-Rigondeaux fight. “It’s never been done before: Each of them winning two gold medals, fighting each other, is very special. That will be remembered in history. Rigondeaux is a helluva fighter, if it’s Rigondeaux [who gets the Dec. 9 fight with Lomachenko]. He’s not going to be boring with Lomachenko. Lomachenko won’t let him be boring.”

    READ It's almost certainly going to be Rigondeaux or Salido rematch next for Lomachenko
    Further to the piece via RingTV, “multiple sources” told the publication that Rigondeaux and promoter Roc Nation are “close to finalizing a deal” with the fight to be fought at a full 130, meaning “Rigo” would have to pack an additional eight pounds onto his lean frame. The weight factor could sway some fans, who may feel Lomachenko is simply too big for the 36 year old southpaw.

    But if he can carry the weight without it slowing him down, and if Lomachenko is unable to physically manhandle Rigondeaux, we could get a great, technically awe-inspiring boxing match just before Christmas. And if it does happen, going out for “free” on ESPN where Lomachenko fights these days, fight fans will be getting an early Christmas present. There are plenty of fans who would pay good money to see this fight.
     
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    They are arguably the two most naturally talented boxers fighting today (although with his brilliant performance on Saturday night, Terence Crawford is ranked as number-one in the eyes of many fight fans) – and promoter Bob Arum wants to match them together in what he says would be an “historic” fight.

    Vasyl Lomachenko Vs. Guillermo Rigondeaux – a fight that has been in the works, at least as a possibility, for some months; due in large part to the unbeaten Cuban’s campaign on social media – is reportedly very close to being made for December 9 in New York, with ESPN set to televise.



    As per a piece on RingTV.com, the fight, if it does happen, will see Lomachenko defend his WBO 130 pound title against the 122 pound champ, so there will be no catch-weight involved. Arum is very keen to get the fight signed, sealed and delivered.

    “It would be a historic milestone in my career,” Arum said on the subject of a Lomachenko-Rigondeaux fight. “It’s never been done before: Each of them winning two gold medals, fighting each other, is very special. That will be remembered in history. Rigondeaux is a helluva fighter, if it’s Rigondeaux [who gets the Dec. 9 fight with Lomachenko]. He’s not going to be boring with Lomachenko. Lomachenko won’t let him be boring.”

    READ It's almost certainly going to be Rigondeaux or Salido rematch next for Lomachenko
    Further to the piece via RingTV, “multiple sources” told the publication that Rigondeaux and promoter Roc Nation are “close to finalizing a deal” with the fight to be fought at a full 130, meaning “Rigo” would have to pack an additional eight pounds onto his lean frame. The weight factor could sway some fans, who may feel Lomachenko is simply too big for the 36 year old southpaw.

    But if he can carry the weight without it slowing him down, and if Lomachenko is unable to physically manhandle Rigondeaux, we could get a great, technically awe-inspiring boxing match just before Christmas. And if it does happen, going out for “free” on ESPN where Lomachenko fights these days, fight fans will be getting an early Christmas present. There are plenty of fans who would pay good money to see this fight.
     
  6. BoxingSpecialist3

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    Hey guys, BoxingSpecialist2 here.

    I made this new account "BoxingSpecialist3" because I wanted to post in this specific thread!

    I will only post here this one time. I decided to stop posting at this site for personal reasons (mainly I wanted to spend less time on the net and more on real life, and I had a difference of opinion on some issues). Overall I think it was the best decision for me to stop posting here, but I still agree with the main objective of this site and from time to time I read it. This thread however was too tempting for me not to post in!

    I'm sorry to say but I disagree with many of the comments I read here from you guys which imply that Conor has some sort of a chance or "puncher's chance" in this fight. The truth is Conor has no chance in a legitimate boxing match VS Floyd Mayweather Jr. The only "chances" Conor has if by some act of God Mayweather injures himself with a "freak injury" in the fight, and/or if the fight is fixed. If it is in fact a legitimate boxing match, I expect Mayweather to KO Conor, possibly within 1 or 2 rounds. I think it would be a poor showing from a veteran professional like Mayweather if Conor can last past the midway of the fight. Also, Mayweather is a big puncher, it's just that with his style he is overly cautious, but he definitely hits hard enough to knock someone out if he's willing to take a risk. I think he will take this risk in this fight because he knows Conor won't be able to match him in punch exchanges.

    Ultimately, MMA and Boxing are two different sports, and I don't expect Conor to have any sort of significant chance in a boxing match, nor would I expect Mayweather to have any significant chance in a MMA match. Conor lost this fight at the negotiation stage, he should have never agreed to fight Mayweather under boxing rules. I understand he is due to be paid some obscene amount (I heard 75$ Million USD) but agreeing to these terms in my opinion is already conceding the entire result of the event. There's no substitute for experience, and Conor's boxing ability is literally years behind Mayweather's. They are two completely different sports, and boxing can take 10, 15, even 20 years to properly master. Conor has maybe 1 or 2 years of non-professional, in-and-out of gym boxing experience and I don't think that will cut it much less against one of the world's top boxers Mayweather Jr. Vasyl Lomachenko is quoted on youtube as expressing an interest to spar with Conor, and Conor should have taken him up on that offer (but even doing that would be insufficient).

    Conor may be applauded for his bravery in crossing over between the sports, in doing so he's shown a lot more "courage" than Mayweather has. But Conor's also shown his lack of a promotional support network behind him in agreeing to Mayweather's demands. Mayweather has Al Haymon money behind him, so Mayweather was always going to come out on top of this negotiation. It's the same sort of situation that Tyson Fury's father alluded to when he suggested that despite his son's achievements (at the time the lineal "true" champion), an unproven black fighter was offered more money from the British terrestrial media (referring to Anthony Joshua, who at the time was unproven). Of course at this site we should all be aware of the "Caste System" as described by Tyson Fury's father and I think this fight is an example of that, in that the black athlete has received every possible advantage, from the negotiation, to the actual fight, to even the presentation of the event. Conor has no chance here, and his support network and team let him down, that is the truth.

    From Conor's perspective yes, Conor's getting paid a lot but he is already filthy rich to begin with. At this point he's basically trading in his reputation for money. Not sure I would make the same choice if in his shoes. You have to ask yourself if your reputation is worth a certain amount of money? Or is Conor seriously delusional enough to believe he can win this fight? Or is he planning MMA tactics if he's getting beat up in boxing? I don't know. The only thing I can say positively is that he has no chance in a real boxing contest.

    From a fan's perspective what would have made this fight interesting is if it was a "Boxing VS MMA" encounter, where each athlete could use their respective skill. In that situation, Conor would have had a great chance to win.

    Don't even think I'll bother to watch this fight (In all honesty, I don't watch boxing much anymore, I mainly only watch football or soccer of late (usually follow Ronaldo's matches with Real Madrid). Not surprising that hordes of unintelligent "casual fans" are interested in this freakshow masquerading as a "boxing fight". Doesn't say too much about the overall intelligence of people does it?
     
  7. boxingpro

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    Haha. Hopefully this will change the course of the bout. Go McGregor!
     
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    Like most of my sparring partners who have also competed in kickboxing and MMA, I prefer to box as it is relaxing compared to the other Two. No kicks and no taledowns to worry about, and big gloves to bunker down behind when gassed. Friend of mine with 30 muay thai fights actually said "boxing is so nice and relaxed" :) this is a point of View seldom heard outside fighting Circles.
    Hell i find every fight with rules and a Ref is a Breeze to be honest.
     
  10. Ambrose

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    Facked up with the rapping at the end. Otherwise could have been a white music sheet.
     
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    Interesting article that I found on Mayweather here. He doesn't appear to be one of those black athletes that become a pauper a few years after he quits. Not being much of a fight fan, I doubt that I will watch this. I tend to agree with BS3's (formerly BS2) take on the fight. It would be neat to see McGregor somehow best Mayweather, but I think that is unlikely at best.
     
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    Ditto!
     
  13. Hawkeye2

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    I'm a MMA fan but I seriously doubt McGregor has much of a chance to win this fight. Boxing and MMA are very different sports and it is very hard to transition from one sport to the other. Things like the stances, the rounds, and the rules are very different. Richard Mayorga for example has been trying to transition to MMA and is currently 0-4 against very crappy competition. I would be shocked if Conner makes it past four rounds.
     
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    A couple of things from the weigh-in. Either Conor is conning the entire world with his insane act or he has a supreme belief in himself to brutalize Mayweather. After the fight, if he loses badly he will look like a yuge fraud. If he wins, he will be the victory of the richest match or sporting event in history and will become boxing.
     
  15. chris371

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    Boxing isnt that incredibly different from KB or MMA. If McGregor is smart he will pick his shots wisely and not neglect his defense. Its not unthinkable that he avoids or deflects Mayweathers punches. I think People put too much emphasis on the whole boxing lore. When it comes down to it, its a Stand up punching match. Not like he is attempting a different sport entirely.
     
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    Conor will go the distance and Mayweather will win by decision. Mayweather's "legacy" will remain "untarnished," Conor will show the world that he can put up a good fight, and both of them will get their massive paychecks.
     
  17. Kaptain

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    It's easy to say Mayweather will win - every MSM sports reporter says so. So what? If you watched MMA from the beginning you know NONE of the combat disciplines are sacred ground. First Jiu Jitsu dominated, then wrestlers like Mark Coleman's ground and pound looked like it was it. People figured out and learned enough jiu jitsu and wrestling to make these look like average wrestlers and JJ's guys. GSP was a karate guy who became MMA's best wrestler. Then the strikers came back with kickboxers, Muay Thai, and some boxers. Of course they all have to well versed to win now. This idea that boxing is somehow un learnable skill that takes a decade to perfect is utter ********. 5 years ago Conor was collecting welfare checks and somehow he learned all the disciplines to an elite level. A boxer in his early 20's is almost always better than the same boxer at 30 and for damn sure better than the same boxer at 40. Of all combat sports boxing is the easiest to learn and has the most to do with flat out natural ability. Hell boxers are well known for not seeing the inside of a gym until 2 or 3 months before their megafight - often going to the gym to lose the 50 pounds of blubber they gained on beer, steak, cakes, and milk shakes - just look at the careers of Ricky Hatton or Roberto Duran. Or just look at some of the flabby bodies in the heavyweight division. MMA fighters don't do that - they can't afford it. Sorry boxingspecialist, tonight the myth of the "sweet science" dies as it should.

    BTW, around the year 2000 I was called up for a weekend by a friend to help train some boxer, who was some kind of regional champ, in the basics of wrestling because he was entering a local MMA contest and I had a high school wrestling background and had done some MMA type training in the early days. Of course in 2 days it's almost impossible to learn anything. We put on the boxing gloves and much to his surprise, with no experience outside of shadow boxing and hitting the heavy bag for a workout, I easily handled him in that as well. Natural ability (electric snapping punches, reflexes, balance), age, size, and endurance is what matters most in boxing. Conor will win - that is my prediction.
     
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    Conor cannot win a decision. Winning by judge's opinion is a near impossibility. The fight is in Vegas; Conor is white; Weasel is black; Conor has beaten Weasel already vocally and with his irrepressible presence to such an extent the collaborative media wanted him shut down as whites are not allowed to insult blacks only the other way around is acceptable; the entrenched organizers everywhere in America are mostly all anti-white; this is Boxing vs. MMA in boxing's jurisdiction; this is a world-wide viewed event; and, for all of those reasons combined -excluding the mechanics of the sport- Conor cannot win a decision.

    The ONLY chance Conor has is by knockout, but against a boxer who has made his entire career out of defense the odds drop tenfold again.

    In the gym Conor could corner Weasel and maul him by "accidentally" slipping in knees, elbow, standing on Weasel's feet, erratic rhythm, etc. But the odds are next to nil that the referee will allow Conor to do that.

    Could Conor stand in the middle of the ring, lure Weasel out of his defensive shell, and attack into Weasel's weakness which is countering his offence? This is what I think Conor will try to do but I doubt he'll be able to do it with enough success to land those dropping shots as Weasel is not likely going to rush forward and fight.

    Whatever this contest is, it is obviously a circus, and, circuses are exhibits of performances for amusement and entertainment.
     
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    I realize that McGregor will probably lose this fight, but the "experts" said that before his MMA bouts with Mendez, Aldo, Alvarez, and Diaz. He beat them all. This past year, Conor became the first UFC fighter to simultaneously hold title belts in two different weight classes. He also won a fight at three (145 lbs, 155 lbs, 170 lbs) different weight classes. No easy feat and something nobody thought he could do, especially given the excellent competition he faced.

    He may be vulgar, annoying, a wigger, and a political liberal, but if he somehow defeats Floyd tonight, this man will be a legend in combat sports for a very long time.
     
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    Las Vegas. Nuff said.

    By the way, despite the pay tv mob's advertised intention to shut down all streams for this thing there seems to be streams advertising it, in case anybody is interested in the circus show, and in case anybody would want to stoop so low as to take food out of the mouths of the Mafia and the poor starving main stream media owners whose great grandfathers lived on the lower east side of Manhattan and were forced to join Hebrew social organizations for their own self protection, like Abe Reles and the boys' Murder Inc., and Meyer Lansky's Mafia, and Bugsy Siegel's Talmud study School in Las Vegas. And then there's poor sweet Doc Marge Goodman and her LV Drug Testing Company and and all the other people of the Hebrew faith who depend on this precious revenue, like Yiddish expert Max Kellerman, and another nice rich Jewish boy Teddy Atlas, plus all the Jewish owners of the tv networks and the rest of the mass media, so only an antisemitic transphobic homophobic white supremacist neo nazi would ever even want to look for ways to bypass paying for pay per view! Pay now before you waste your money on food or something, shmucks!
     
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    So if u r a transophobic white supremacist nazi hater etc etc etc, u can pm me for a u know what! Sorry for the inconvenience but no transgendered transvestite sex perverts, commie scum, or snowflakes need apply.
     
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    I think the Irishman is talented but a bit of a hype job at this level. He doesn't have near the resume Mayweather has. Why the media support? Maybe so they can showcase a guy who is tough and can fight but still be with the CultMarx program. And then lose a high profile black/white match-up as agenda calls for. He's a liberal loudmouth. I could care less if he gets his ass kicked, which he probably will. Too much speed coming at him in a way he's not well trained for. Money snaps his head back time after time till they stop the farce about round six or so. Maybe a body shot the coup de grace.

    Then again Conner is one of us so should he pull it off I could live with that.

    I'm conflicted on this one.
     
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    Farce as McGregor can't use all his tools and must box. Mayweather wins but it does nothing to settle the MMA vs Boxer debate.
     
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    2 1/2 hours until the fight starts.

    I still think McGregor has a puncher's chance.
     
  25. limitless

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    A McGregor win could heighten the already strained racial relations in this country. For the blacks, Floyd is one of their gods.
     

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