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  1. Don Wassall

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    A short article that doesn't break any new ground, but it's the first time I've seen Jones quoted since he signed with Cincy.

    New Bengals Wide Receiver Eager for Fresh Start

    Now that Matt Jones has his foot in the Cincinnati Bengals' door, he's determined to prove he belongs there on a long-term basis.



    Signed to a one-year contract last month, Jones is eager for this fresh start after being out of football last year.


    Jones has dealt with issues involving drugs, includingbrushes withthe court system and the NFLsubstance-abuse policies.


    Now, he's back in the NFL.


    "I knew if I stayed focused and I wanted another opportunity that I had to keep with it and work it out," Jonestold the CincinnatiEnquirer."I'm excited about the opportunity to play with Cincinnati."


    Arrested for cocaine possession in the past and once testing positive for alcohol and violating his probation, Jones said he understands why those incidents happened.


    "It was immaturity," Jonessaid. "I have a good family and know right from wrong. You mess up and whenever you make a mistake you have to move on."


    Jacksonville Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio, whose team eventually gave up on the former first-round pick from Arkansas, was candid on why the team moved on from Jones.


    "I think it was a lack of dedication, commitment and resolve," Del Rio said. "Those are the things he's going to have to exhibit in order to have a chance of doing it. Talent alone won't get it done in this league... Iknow that he would like to get his career back on track, and I'm pulling for him. I hope he does well."
    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Matt-Jones-It-was-immaturity-3110.html
     
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    I like how he didn't put himself down much & just called it a mistake out of "immaturity" & gave praise to his family for teaching him right from wrong. The media does enough beating up on white players already, for a white player to have to trash himself. Jones won't get a 2nd, 3rd or 4th chance like Chris Henry and Pac Man have- even after violent incidents that hurt others than themselves. It's unfair, but Jones is held to a higher standard. He better get his head straight and not mess up again.
     
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    Don, thanks for posting that article. I passed it onto some buddies...including one DWF.

    TJR, good points on Jones not getting any "more" chances. Heck, he was lucky to even get one chance (despite being one of the best athletes in the NFL)...unlike the plethora of thug afroletes who get chance after chance.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  4. Don Wassall

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    Yet another Caste Ass takes a classless swipe at Matt:


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    Mar 29th, 2010 by Michael Perry
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    NFL fans shouldn't really believe any rumors until the words "Adam Schefter"Â￾ or "Jay Glazer"Â￾ are involved. Well, "Matt Jones"Â￾ and "snorting coke"Â￾ are also very trustworthy words. With that said, the latest Donovan McNabb rumors are finally legit.
    http://otrsportsonline.com/2010/03/29/schefter-on-raiders-clear-cut-favorite-to-land-mcnabb/
     
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    The filthy Raiders can have dried up, oft injured McDrab. Just another reason to hate Davis and Oakland.
     
  6. Don Wassall

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    This tidbit from bengals.com reveals that Jones was recently married, which should only help him stay focused on his goals:

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    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">acrobatic quarterback, pulled off "The Miracle on Markham,"Â￾ <OBR>
    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">when he launched a 31-yard touchdown pass <OBR>
    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">to DeCori Birmingham with nine seconds left to give <OBR>
    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">Arkansas a 21-20 win over LSU to put his club in the <OBR>
    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">Southeastern Conference championship game."They <OBR>
    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">said he was whistling on that drive and that's Matt,"<OBR>
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    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">people just underestimated how much he was able to <OBR>
    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">change the game. He touched the ball every play and <OBR>
    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">when the pocket closed he took off and made people <OBR>
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    <NOBR jQuery1270699066647="52">he was the next best thing at Arkansas."Â￾
    Luigs got to know Jones when he ended up going to
    Arkansas, but not all that much because he was in
    the frosh locker room while Jones completed his senior
    year as the SEC's most prolific rushing
    quarterback in history. Luigs got to know him better
    when he consulted Jones about his agent,
    Dave Butz, and Luigsdecided to sign. Last year
    they went peasant hunting, and Luigs and his
    wife have spent time with Jones and his wife of
    less than a month once they arrived in Cincinnati
    last month.

    "Matt's just a country boy. He's just an easy-going
    guy, easy to get along with. I know he'll fit into
    the locker room,' said Luigs, who agrees with Jones
    that Jones has put his past behind him. "He's done a
    complete 180. I think he's turned it around."Â￾


    http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Pass-the-word/52bd8a99-4726-4f28-86a3-f4dc1c287861<OBR><OBR>Edited by: Don Wassall
     
  7. devans

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    Peasant hunting?
     
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    [​IMG] Good catch devans! Isn't that what the PTB has planned (during martial law...post another false-flag attack)?[​IMG]
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    Jones hoping to take advantage of 2nd chance




    By C. Trent Rosecrans, CNATI.com Posted April 13, 2010 4:58 PM ET


    Matt Jones knows it's going to be mentioned in any article written about him, and nearly every interview will discuss his July 10, 2008 arrest for cocaine possession and his subsequent probation violation in March of 2009.


    It has to be brought up -- it's one of the reasons he's here.


    Nearly two years ago, Jones was in a car with two other people and a bag of cocaine. He entered a drug program, was suspended by the league and placed on probation, one he violated in 2009 when a drug test showed he had alcohol in his system. Two days after he left jail, the Jaguars released him.


    "That's a mistake that's made almost two years ago, there hasn't been an article written since then that doesn't mention it," Jones said last week. "It's just how it is, how it's going to be. That's all in the past, it's all behind me."


    Those past troubles were magnified when, of all teams, the Bengals, worked him out and eventually signed him. It didn't help matters that the team worked out another of the NFL's "bad boys," Adam "Pacman" Jones around the same time as Jones.


    It made the punchlines easy, more knee-jerk Bengals and prison stripes references. The Bengals gave a guy a second shot, something that has worked in the past (Cedric Benson), not worked in the past (Odell Thurman) and one that ended too soon.


    "Matt's in a great position, he knows what guys have done here," said Bengals center Kyle Cook, a second-chance of the other sort, a player who was released by another team and flourished in Cincinnati. "The biggest thing for a guy like him is that it's not over, it's not out of reach. The coaches and ownership here, they give you that opportunity, they're not bringing you in for a brief period of time, they're going to give you an opportunity and it's up to you take the ball and run with it."


    The Bengals hope he can. Considered a project when the Jaguars took him in the first round of the 2005 draft (four picks after the Bengals selected David Pollack), Jones had his best season of his career following his arrest. Despite being suspended three games, Jones reached career-highs in receptions (65) and yards (761).


    "I was finally figuring it out," Jones said. "My first couple of years I was basically an athlete playing. My last year I was able to figure out the receiver position and how to get open and do certain things."


    Jones played quarterback in college at Arkansas and raised the interest of NFL types with a blistering 4.37 40-yard dash, an unheard of number for a player who stood 6-foot-6 and 237 pounds. He also recorded a vertical jump of nearly 40 inches. In all, he was too impressive an athlete (he played basketball at Arkansas as well) for a team not to take a gamble on.


    The Bengals saw the same. With a need at receiver with Chad Ochocinco and no other true proven players at wideout, Jones was signed to a one-year, $700,000 contract in February. The Bengals later signed Antonio Bryant and could still draft another pass catcher in this month's draft. Where Jones will ultimately fit in is still up in the air.


    "I think right now someone's role if you haven't been here for a while, it's not defined," Jones said. "You show up to practice and ready to compete, once you get in practice and make some plays, that's where your role is determined."


    That's why he's looking forward to getting back to work. He's been at the team's off-season workouts and is looking ahead to OTAs and even two-a-days, something he missed last season for the first time since he was 10.


    He enjoyed what he called a "redshirt" year in 2009, worked out at the IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla., until week eight or nine of the NFL season when he knew his window for the 2009 season had closed and went back home to Arkansas.


    In the season off, Jones was able to attend some Arkansas football games for the first time since he left Fayetteville, and also got married -- "I probably wouldn't have gotten married if I hadn't been playing last year. That's weird how it happens."


    Now he and his wife are in Cincinnati, getting ready for the next chapter in his life. He's spent time with his teammates in workouts, but also off the field, saying he and his wife has spent time with Jonathan Luigs and his wife. Luigs also went to Arkansas and was a freshman when Jones was a senior for the Razorbacks.


    "Being a freshman and he was a senior and All-everything, he was certainly a role model," Luigs said. "He's always been humble and easy-going, he was never too good for anybody."


    Luigs said he's talked to people about that night two years ago and is confident that it was an isolated incident -- "I think he's done a complete 180 from that time in his life, he's learned a lot and he's married now to a good, Christian girl. I think he's changed it around," said Luigs, who shares the same agent as Jones.


    "I'm very thankful to Cincinnati that they've welcomed me in and given me this opportunity. All I'm going to do is make the most of it," Jones said. "I know my talents and that I can help this team win. I know I can play, I'm 26 years old, it'd be different if I was 31 or 32. I'm still young enough so I have another five or six years left to play."
    http://cnati.com/cincinnati-bengals/jones-hoping-to-take-advantage-of-2nd-chance-001757/
     
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    I hope Matt isn't naive enough to believe that if he "shows up for practice ready to compete, once you get in practice and make some plays, that's where your role is determined." Being laid back and taking what comes to you doesn't work in the NFL. He needs to speak up for himself. It's a joke that Jones was blackballed from the league for a year and is only making $700,000. He needs to kick ass in practice and then go to the coaches and demand his role on the team. Coaches will cave into pressure from guys like ochocinco because they know the white boy will accept his role coming off the bench.
     
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    Carson Palmer, Marvin Lewis and Bob Bratkowski all compliment Matt in this article:

    Full roster keeping Bengals up with Joneses




    On a day all the cameras were trained on Adam Jones' statement,Matt Jonesmade a statement in the privacy of a few routes in Tuesday's passing camp that opened the Bengals on-field season.


    Hey, they are just trying to keep up with the Joneses.


    With a roster that will eventually have 17 defensive backs and 11 wide receivers, Tuesday gave a glimpse of why head coach Marvin Lewis said this is going to be the most competitive of his eight training camps running the Bengals.


    "It will be position to position," Lewis said. "We didn't stand pat this offseason. We've got to start from scratch and we put people in place to do that. If I'm a member of this team, like our quarterback, that's a great thing to have. To look around and say, ‘Wow, look at this. Now it's up to me just do my job to the utmost of my ability,' and I think we've raised the level throughout the rest of the team."


    Count Palmer in after throwing to his veteran receivers for six days before Tuesday.


    On Monday, he said Matt Jones, the former first-round draft pick that hasn't caught an NFL pass since '08, and free-agent pickup Antonio Bryantcan give him what he's been missing since the departure of T.J. Houshmandzadeh and the injury to the late Chris Henry.


    After the offense went against a defense for the first time Tuesday, you saw and heard why. While Palmer continued to be impressed by Jones, Bryant raved about Palmer.


    Palmer didn't throw a deep ball to Jones on Tuesday because the Bengals were installing their short routes. But twice Jones ran by a top-tier cornerback inLeon Hallduring drills and caught one of them.


    First of all, everything said and written Tuesday has to be prefaced with it is Day One and the pads don't come out for another three months or so.


    But second of all, Palmer can't help but notice the 6-6 Jones.


    "He looked good today," Palmer said. "He's so long. Big. So lanky. I threw him a ball when he was completely covered. He just caught it out in front of him and didn't let the DB come close to making a play on it. That's what you have to do when you're that big and you're that type of player. You need to use that to your advantage and it looks like he's going to be able to do that. I can't wait to get him out there for the long routes when we put more of the offense in and we can open him up."


    We know where Lewis comes down on the Carson Debate. Palmer doesn't have the '05-'06 numbers because the people around him changed. As Lewis has often said, the old defensive coordinator reiterated Tuesday what keeps his ilk awake at night: The ability of an offense "to throw it over your head" and to run the ball at will.


    In Palmer's first three seasons as a starter, he had 32 completions of 40 yards or more. In the last three, it is 13. And only five last year. Now enter Bryant with his career average of 15.3 yards per catch and Jones with 13 and, well, it is early.


    But the coaches must feel good about Jones. Remember those stories on national Web sites after the Bengals signed him in February and unnamed Bengals coaches ripped it saying he had such a bad workout?


    Who knows who said it, but on Tuesday, offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski went on record to say he's been impressed.


    "He did some good things," he said. "He's in better shape, but on his behalf when he worked out here it was 32 degrees and there was ice on the field. Not exactly optimal conditions. He's worked hard. He's looking better and better every day."


    Still a long way away. But Jones did say Tuesday he feels he's in the best shape of his career at this point in the season.


    "I would get started about when everybody else did," Jones said. "But this year I went to (a training facility) for two weeks in March and I've been at it here for five weeks. This is the best my body has felt right now."


    And, a guy that figures to run a 4.4 40-yard dash, Jones says he feels faster than when he last played.


    Lewis has also been watching.


    "I've been impressed with him," Lewis said of Jones' work with the quarterbacks leading up to Tuesday. "It's going to be fun to watch. He's feeling good about himself. He's got the quarterbacks feeling good about his abilities. We've got to get things to help him help us."


    Meanwhile, Bryant, working on his eighth head coach and twice as many quarterbacks in his eighth season, was bubbling after Tuesday's workout. And he's been trying to keep it very low key since signing that four-year, $28 million deal back in March, but he couldn't help himself.


    "With him, it's about precision and timing," Bryant said of Palmer. "That's good because it will help me as an individual pick my game up. That's something I've lacked for the most part. I see he's consistent with his timing and how you should come out of the routes. He's almost down to a science. I kind of like that. I know exactly what to expect because it's been consistent so far since I've been here."


    Bryant talked about playing with Jeff Garcia and how when his short stature forced him out of the pocket, the game suddenly became instinct more than precision.


    "You had to prepare yourself to run two routes," Bryant said. "The first route and the Jeff route."


    Which is funny because without Houshmandzadeh, Palmer seems to have been struggling to find a guy he knows is going to be where when Chad Ocho Cinco is blanketed. Bryant says he won't have to worry with him.


    "I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to follow the quarterback's eyes," Bryant said. "When I come out of that route, if it's not there and he's doing something different, you've got to use common sense. He's been very consistent with where he's throwing that ball and how he wants to come out of the break. I know exactly what's expected. It's 14 yards this way and not that way, then that's exactly what you should do."


    Bratkowski, who likes how seriously Bryant approaches the game, put plenty on his plate Tuesday. He had him playing the Z on the outside and the slot inside with a lot of motions and shifts and while he was in the wrong place at times, Bratkowski feels he's picking it up well.


    "Like the first day of school," said Bryant, the high school honor student. "Moving around and finding out where all your classes are."


    That's how early it is. First day of school early.


    But it's never too early to feel good.


    "I don't like to elaborate on the future, but I feel really good about our situation," Bryant said. "The fact he can adjust to who's running the routes. ... That's something quarterbacks I've had never really understood. Some quarterbacks that have a lot of talent try to make a perfect throw instead of making the opportunity for the receiver to make the throw look perfect. Give us an opportunity to make a play on it. Which (Palmer) is doing."
    http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Full-roster-keeping-Bengals-up-with-Joneses/488768d8-040d-46bf-802a-601ba57063fe
     
  12. Westside

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    Great to hear and read about Jonesy!
     
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    I hate the fact that Jones may be a third receiver or even 4th on the Bengals. He should be starting over Antonio Bryant. He is way more athletic and much bigger than Bryant so he could really give defenses fits.
     
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    from rotoworld:

    Matt Jones insists he's now in the best shape of his career at this point in the offseason.

    We'd caution that many receivers look great in non-contract drills, but Jones is already exciting his coaches and teammates. "I've been impressed with him," Marvin Lewis said. "It's going to be fun to watch. He's feeling good about himself. He's got the quarterbacks feeling good about his abilities."
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    I agree, Bryant is a poor mans Jones. Matt does everything that Bryant can do, only better and faster... I hope Matt is finally given a legitimate chance at being an outside WR because he's way to big, fast and talented to be a slot WR.
     
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    Since Jones is white he's going to be on a very short leash this season. If he gets in any trouble whatsoever or even has a few bad games he'll be demoted or released. I don't know how he's going to deal with that idiot Ochocincho. I wouldn't be able to stand five minutes with that moron.
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    WA 33 regarding a clown like Chad, you have just kept fools like that at arm's distance. While maintaining that distance just observe him and later laugh on what a moron he is.
     
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    I kind of suspect that Jones will play one year in Cincinnati and then move on because the team is committed to The Toddler and Bryant. It would be nice to dump one of those two and keep Jones though especially with Shipley in the slot, but the Bengals are a team that dumped Kevin Walter so two white WRs might be expecting a bit much.

    Also looks like Tom Nelson will be out as well just like Corey Lynch.
     
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    I'm no huge Marvin Lewis fan, but he's way better than Hatie Smiff. I don't fault Lewis for starting Benson over Leonard. Leonard is a good athlete, but doesn't have great instincts or vision as a RB and Benson played pretty well last year. Leonard is more of a third down and receiving back.

    Now, if the Bengals had Hillis or even Hester, Woodhead or Gerhart and weren't playing them MUCH more than Leonard is playing I'd be pissed! Hillis and Gerhart= better powerbacks than Benson and Woodhead could be one of the very best scatbacks splitting carries in the entire league if given a chance!
     
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    The Cincinnati media is circulating anti-Matt Jones stories again. Let's see, after he finally signed with the Bengals after being whiteballed out of the league for a year, "unnamed" Bengals coaches were quoted as saying Jones had a horrible workout even though the team signed him. Then after briefly being praised last month, the negative stuff is now circulating again, like this from the Dayton Daily News:

    Who needs Matt Jones when you have Jerome Simpson? That's right, I would be flummoxed if Jones made the club over Simpson. There was not much to write home about regarding Jones' performance in minicamp. He looked like just another guy and was outperformed by Simpson, who has struggled to see the playing field since being drafted. Both receivers are likely on the bubble considering the team's depth at the position.



    Jones is a long strider with little burst off the line and is not the most precise route runner. Not to mention he caught a lot of passes with his body rather than using his hands. You would also expect a guy his size to be more aggressive at the point of attack but that wasn't the case.


    The 6-foot-6, 218-pound Jones was pushed off his routes with little effort by smaller cornerbacks. The receiver made it easy for corners to jam him at the line of scrimmage. Jones is going to have to show the Bengals coaching staff more than adequacy in training camp if he's looking to revitalize his career in Cincinnati.
    http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/big_c_nfl_blitz/entries/2010/06/20/notes_from_bengals_minicamp.html

    When there is a media drumbeat against a White player, many times it emanates from off the record quotes from coaches and GMs. On the surface, the Bengals having Jones, Shipley, Leonard and Coffman looks promising. But the actual record of Marvin Lewis and the team's ownership regarding white players is dismal. Coffman has been hammered consistently in the media despite receiving no opportunities so far. Everyone drools over Jermaine Gresham, who was essentially drafted to replace Coffman even though Coffman was drafted in the third round just last year. It's looking more and more like theBengals won't keep two good white receivers on the same roster. Given that Shipley is a rookie and a third round draft pick, Jones, with his background as Enemy Number One among DWFs, is an easy player to get screwed over again.
     
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    It's possible Jones may not even see the field this year. If he is cut it's a long shot that any other team will pick him up and give him an opportunity.
     
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    That's like saying, who needs Ben Roethlisberger when you have Dennis Dixon. [​IMG]
     
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    As bad as the situation could get with Jones even Shipley may get screwed. We will have to see just how much Shipley is utilized this season.
     
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    The article was written by a Carlos "Big C" Holmes. A quick link to his website he's a balding, overweight black guy who is a self-described "avid football fan." In other words, he's a nobody with a blog. He has no insider information and very few readers. And, for the criticism of Jones being a "long strider" - goddamn, he's 6'6", what kind of stride is he supposed to have?Edited by: icsept
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out icsept. It does look like he's a nobody who knows very little about the NFL.
     

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