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[Rebajlo]

Please read my Point #4 in my post about reasons why I don't date white (North American, Western European) women, that basically answers this for you.

Further, it depends on your definition of "white". Some people, maybe not you, but some people would in fact consider many Arabs and Persians to be white. In that case, I am not dating outside my race.

BoxingSpecialist2 -

Sorry about not responding for so long but I was rather busy over the Christmas / New Year period - my Caste Football activity has consequently been restricted to crunching English Premier League numbers.

I cannot speak for Canada or the United States, but in Australia and the United Kingdom there are plenty of intelligent, responsible, conservative (or comparatively conservative) White women who are very much potentially "amenable" to right-wing thinking. It's just a matter of finding them. Of course, finding them may not be that easy as one has to take the time and, most importantly, utilise the correct approach to extract a woman's true beliefs, for appearances are often proverbially deceiving. After all, the quasi-totalitarian threat of social ostracism as "punishment" for voicing "politically incorrect" opinions is omnipresent. People of both sexes therefore generally avoid "risky" or "awkward" topics of conversation and if such pop up, people almost always succumb to the safety of conformity, thus buttressing and perpetuating the entire evil system which they may not necessarily agree with (or at least not fully agree with...).

I've said this before and I'll say it again: White Nationalists are far too prone to writing White women off as a lost cause. If the vast majority of White women are brainwashed, then who is to reverse the rot if not "racially aware" White men? Where are all of the oft-mentioned "racially aware White children" going to come from? Sure, it's far easier to simply sit in front of a computer and moan about the improbability of meeting a woman who'll open with "Isn't it high time that we gassed all of those ****ing parasitic Yids, ******s and spicks"...

During the course of the first meal I shared with my girlfriend, she said that she hated "racists". Not too auspicious a beginning, eh? Mind You, at that point I hadn't even revealed my (admittedly super hard-core) "racism".

Now, I had the option of springing up, overturning the table, then giving her the good old bras d'honneur while calling her a stupid moll who's all tits and arse with no brains whatsoever before storming off into the hazy horizon (not before paying the bill for, after all, I am a gentleman...). Instead, I winced inwardly but let the comment pass, steered the conversation to Regency literature and the wonders of the English countryside and continued shovelling my grub.

Of course I already knew the girl was a de facto leftist as the result of a lifetime of inculcation by her family, church, the media and various "educational" institutions. But I figured that the cunning Rebajlo could eventually make her see some sense, as the basic foundations were there: she was naturally intelligent, quite demure, and possessed a love of all things "traditionally English".

I very gradually employed the latter point to demonstrate the lasting value and superiority of European civilisation (while subtly running down non-White "cultures" - I simply cannot help myself there...) and to convince her of the vital importance of its preservation in the ugly face of "multicultural" globalisation. At the same time, I let her see what a wonderfully upstanding and all-round decent chap I am :icon_wink: - a veritable antithesis of the ubiquitous, hairy-knuckle dragging stereotype of the grunting, pissed-up, beer-gutted, masturbation-addicted "White supremacist" who wears the same pair of stained, threadbare undies for a fortnight (that's if he wears any at all...).

So, once I deemed it "safe" (or about as "safe" as it could get) to detonate the multi-megaton device of unveiling my multiple-gold-medal-winning "racism", all of my meticulous "preparation" ultimately paid off (once she got over her initial shock, that is...). The upshot: instead of worring about the welfare of so-called "refugees", Miss "I Hate Racists" now even occasionally drops the big bad N-bomb into the dialogue. Who would have imagined, eh? But yes, I could have walked away and dismissed her as just another brainwashed White woman before popping a porno into the DVD player, flexing the fingers and reaching for the Vaseline...

What You must realise, mate, is that practically all White Nationalists do not view Arabs, Berbers, Turks, Persians, or any other "Caucasian" Muslims as fellow Whites. I'm not attempting to insult You, I'm only stating fact.

Immaterial of whether You are a practicing Muslim or not, You are a Muslim so religious compatibility with Middle Eastern women isn't going to pose an intrinsic problem. The other Caste Football blokes aren't Muslims, so what's perfectly natural for You is completely unnatural for anyone else here...

Anyway, best of luck with Your Middle Eastern women...

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Before I begin let me start by re-posting this; http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...-introduce-myself-and-say-Hi-to-the-Community

In said thread, I introduced myself, as a 23 year old white male (I have since turned 24) and I included some personal pics and pics with some of my Muslim, Middle Eastern ex girlfriends (I put up pics with 3 of my Persian ex's there). The reason I did that is because I am open about my political views in real life. I have a great job and I can also be open about my political views which is a great luxury that not everyone has.

First of all let me say Thanks Rebajlo, for your response, I appreciate you taking the time to write it out. I also respect your viewpoint but I must politely strongly disagree.

I cannot speak for Canada or the United States, but in Australia and the United Kingdom there are plenty of intelligent, responsible, conservative (or comparatively conservative) White women who are very much potentially "amenable" to right-wing thinking. It's just a matter of finding them. Of course, finding them may not be that easy as one has to take the time and, most importantly, utilise the correct approach to extract a woman's true beliefs

Sounds like an extra load of work to do, over time to invest, and large uncertainty about the results (that is, you successfully converting an otherwise liberal white woman to right wing thinking).

As I stated earlier in this thread, I find that many white women have attitude problems when I talk to them, it's like they feel like I owe them something as a white man. I am extremely confident, and if you don't show me some cordiality right away, I'm not interested in said female, I'll look elsewhere. I'm absolutely not OK with "bending over backwards", and "jumping over sideways" to capture the attention of any woman. She can let me know she is interested in me right away, or I won't waste my time.

When I speak to Middle Eastern women, right away, things go smoothly, and there is no "defense mechanism" as there is with white women. I am a very direct guy and direct about my wants, and with Middle Eastern women its much easier for me to get that across. Arabs and Persians don't have any political correctness, don't harbour feminist/independent viewpoints, and don't have any "guilt issues" over slavery. Its a much healthier relationship dynamic I find (especially since I am very right wing in my own thinking).

Some white women are interested in dating me but it never works out because I don't play around and I am straight to the god damn point. I am very direct and that approach doesn't work with white women. If I actually "played the game", and did what you do, I'm sure it would work for me, but I'm not interested to do that. You're here Rebajlo, talking about "changing the girl" and "persuading her" to right wing thinking. I don't have time for that, and I don't care to make that investment. Also, I am highly skeptical that would actually work out in the long run.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: White Nationalists are far too prone to writing White women off as a lost cause. If the vast majority of White women are brainwashed, then who is to reverse the rot if not "racially aware" White men? Where are all of the oft-mentioned "racially aware White children" going to come from?

Well, in my opinion, some Middle Easterners can be considered white. Its a case-by-case basis. Without question, Middle Easterns are Caucasian, and that's good enough for me, I can date and marry that.Regardless, a child between a white and Middle Eastern will almost certainly come out looking completely white. The parents of that child will then direct the child to an appropriate political view.

When I have children one day, they will be mixed with Middle Eastern, and I would teach them to highly respect both European and Middle Eastern (Caucasian) culture.

Sure, it's far easier to simply sit in front of a computer and moan about the improbability of meeting a woman who'll open with "Isn't it high time that we gassed all of those ****ing parasitic Yids, ******s and spicks"...

I'm not moaning or complaining about anything. I strongly prefer Middle Eastern women to white women, and even if white women were conservative I would still choose a Middle Eastern wife. I find Middle Eastern women better looking. As I said, I consider them Caucasian and possibly white, and that's good enough for me.

My stance is pro-Caucasian which completely agrees with my dating and marriage views.

What You must realise, mate, is that practically all White Nationalists do not view Arabs, Berbers, Turks, Persians, or any other "Caucasian" Muslims as fellow Whites. I'm not attempting to insult You, I'm only stating fact.

Yes, I understand that and its honestly a god damn shame that they see things that way. They're hurting themselves by holding that viewpoint. This "white/Caucasian awareness" movement would be a lot stronger, a lot more successful if they made some very small compromises and allowances with their definition of "white".

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I brought up the idea of using a hierarchy to classify nonwhite races. I would god damn hope that white Nationalists would see an Iranian (Caucasian) as more agreeable than a Jew or Negro.

I would also point out to you the fact that some white Nationalists on this site (won't name names, but there's several users) do share my view, and over history, even some "white supremacists" (such as Hitler, being a notable example) have made allowances for partial nonwhite heritage, or used a more liberal definition of white.

The danger with what you are saying, Rebajlo, is that some white nationalists wouldn't even consider some Europeans (Italians, Russians) as being white. I find that insane and I think it hurts this movement in terms of reducing audience.

Immaterial of whether You are a practicing Muslim or not, You are a Muslim so religious compatibility with Middle Eastern women isn't going to pose an intrinsic problem. The other Caste Football blokes aren't Muslims, so what's perfectly natural for You is completely unnatural for anyone else here...

I am 100% white. My ancestors were primarily Christian, but in recent times became Muslim because of the part of Europe my family is from (Southern Europe). Religion comes and goes, and I would ask you if you differentiate between Christians and Atheists in your definition of white?

I am completely white and I follow no religion. I am comfortable with that.

To be completely honest with you Rebajlo, I feel god damn sorry for many of the white men I see here in Canada married to white women. These guys get zero sex, wife treats them like dirt, and the female is supreme boss in 90%+ of marriages. I actually feel sorry for these men and I don't want that for myself.

I would stress a pro-CAUCASIAN viewpoint and I would suggest other white men to do what I'm doing (dating Arabs and Persians). Obviously I have a more "open door" policy on my definiton of white than some do here and thats fine.

Also as a last point, I don't mean to talk badly about all white women. Obviously there is some great, conservative, respectable white women out there and thats wonderful. Personall, though, that's not my preference and never will be. I prescribe to a larger Caucasian (fair skinned) viewpoint.

Thanks for your comments Rebajlo and hopefully you could see things from my position a bit, which is entirely a pro-Caucasian viewpoint. Cheers

 

[dwid]

First of all let me say Thanks Rebajlo, for your response, I appreciate you taking the time to write it out. I also respect your viewpoint but I must politely strongly disagree.



Sounds like an extra load of work to do, over time to invest, and large uncertainty about the results (that is, you successfully converting an otherwise liberal white woman to right wing thinking).

As I stated earlier in this thread, I find that many white women have attitude problems when I talk to them, it's like they feel like I owe them something as a white man. I am extremely confident, and if you don't show me some cordiality right away, I'm not interested in said female, I'll look elsewhere. I'm absolutely not OK with "bending over backwards", and "jumping over sideways" to capture the attention of any woman. She can let me know she is interested in me right away, or I won't waste my time.

When I speak to Middle Eastern women, right away, things go smoothly, and there is no "defense mechanism" as there is with white women. I am a very direct guy and direct about my wants, and with Middle Eastern women its much easier for me to get that across. Arabs and Persians don't have any political correctness, don't harbour feminist/independent viewpoints, and don't have any "guilt issues" over slavery. Its a much healthier relationship dynamic I find (especially since I am very right wing in my own thinking).

Some white women are interested in dating me but it never works out because I don't play around and I am straight to the god damn point. I am very direct and that approach doesn't work with white women. If I actually "played the game", and did what you do, I'm sure it would work for me, but I'm not interested to do that. You're here Rebajlo, talking about "changing the girl" and "persuading her" to right wing thinking. I don't have time for that, and I don't care to make that investment. Also, I am highly skeptical that would actually work out in the long run.



Well, in my opinion, some Middle Easterners can be considered white. Its a case-by-case basis. Without question, Middle Easterns are Caucasian, and that's good enough for me, I can date and marry that.Regardless, a child between a white and Middle Eastern will almost certainly come out looking completely white. The parents of that child will then direct the child to an appropriate political view.

When I have children one day, they will be mixed with Middle Eastern, and I would teach them to highly respect both European and Middle Eastern (Caucasian) culture.



I'm not moaning or complaining about anything. I strongly prefer Middle Eastern women to white women, and even if white women were conservative I would still choose a Middle Eastern wife. I find Middle Eastern women better looking. As I said, I consider them Caucasian and possibly white, and that's good enough for me.

My stance is pro-Caucasian which completely agrees with my dating and marriage views.



Yes, I understand that and its honestly a god damn shame that they see things that way. They're hurting themselves by holding that viewpoint. This "white/Caucasian awareness" movement would be a lot stronger, a lot more successful if they made some very small compromises and allowances with their definition of "white".

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I brought up the idea of using a hierarchy to classify nonwhite races. I would god damn hope that white Nationalists would see an Iranian (Caucasian) as more agreeable than a Jew or Negro.

I would also point out to you the fact that some white Nationalists on this site (won't name names, but there's several users) do share my view, and over history, even some "white supremacists" (such as Hitler, being a notable example) have made allowances for partial nonwhite heritage, or used a more liberal definition of white.

The danger with what you are saying, Rebajlo, is that some white nationalists wouldn't even consider some Europeans (Italians, Russians) as being white. I find that insane and I think it hurts this movement in terms of reducing audience.



I am 100% white. My ancestors were primarily Christian, but in recent times became Muslim because of the part of Europe my family is from (Southern Europe). Religion comes and goes, and I would ask you if you differentiate between Christians and Atheists in your definition of white?

I am completely white and I follow no religion. I am comfortable with that.

To be completely honest with you Rebajlo, I feel god damn sorry for many of the white men I see here in Canada married to white women. These guys get zero sex, wife treats them like dirt, and the female is supreme boss in 90%+ of marriages. I actually feel sorry for these men and I don't want that for myself.

I would stress a pro-CAUCASIAN viewpoint and I would suggest other white men to do what I'm doing (dating Arabs and Persians). Obviously I have a more "open door" policy on my definiton of white than some do here and thats fine.

Also as a last point, I don't mean to talk badly about all white women. Obviously there is some great, conservative, respectable white women out there and thats wonderful. Personall, though, that's not my preference and never will be. I prescribe to a larger Caucasian (fair skinned) viewpoint.

Thanks for your comments Rebajlo and hopefully you could see things from my position a bit, which is entirely a pro-Caucasian viewpoint. Cheers

i don't think it should be encouraged just because you personally may have had trouble with White women where you live and don't have the time to mold a woman, most that I saw at college with liberal views don't have their own views, they just believe whatever popular opinion and basically parrot their professors, and I have seen it work with a friend of mine, I don't think its that hard to get one of these liberal girls to change to where they have views similar to your own. Like posted above, if the intelligence is there then it can happen. They just have been brainwashed for so long. Of course if you are White Power that is not going to happen most of the time but being proud of being White and all that isn''t hard to sell. Oh no! it might take work to keep the White race going, "lets just give up"....yeah thats a GREAT view to have. A good deal wind up realizing that being a mom and raising a family is the most fulfilling thing to them. Yes you have many that don't realize this until mid 30's but more come around then you think. You don't have to look outside of your race to find women with conservative beliefs. My Catholic church has a ton. Over the past year my wife has had like 12 friends from church who were married that we have had dinner with and the women are all conservative and view the man as the head of the household (pro gun rights, pretty much all the right wing stuff). Every single one of these families has like at least 2 or 3 kids (some have one but all are working on more, one has like 8). They also have a large network of families that they are friends with that I don't know that well but seem to have the same values. Race was brought up a few times and the ones I have talked to are proud of their heritage and think it is ridiculous to have any White guilt, especially when a good deal of of them are Irish with most of ancestors coming over mid to late 19th century. I doubt the many of the ones that came here before slavery ended owned slaves in that brief period. I think only like 2 owned a tv so most don't let their kids watch that crap. I am sure there are other branches of Christianity with similar networks of people with the same values. I don't think it matters Christian or Muslim, they will be conservative.

I agree that we shouldn't be worried about someone that may be 1/8th to 1/16th non White like Welker's wife, and shouldn't be upset with the occasional White marrying someone not 100 percent White but to encourage all White males to marry women to create a mixture is ridiculous. Personally I don't find most middle eastern women attractive and I doubt many White men prefer them over White women. Your kids may not come out looking White. My 2nd cousin married a very White looking man from either Syria or Jordan, don't remember, her kids do not look totally White, there is only one that would not be questioned about his Whiteness on here, that is out of 4 children. Another one might be able to pass off as Italian but still 3 out of 4 of them would have people questioning their heritage on here.

I feel like you are pushing this whole middle eastern thing too far, because you have repeated the same thing over and over.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Sorry I certainly don't mean to push my views on ayone. Rather, I was simply replying to Rebajlo's post. As you can imagine, this is a very personal issue for me so I like to give a lengthy response.

I don't think all white men should marry Middle Easterners, but what I would say is that:

- Middle Easterners are almost white, and absolutely Caucasian.
- Middle Eastern women are an alternative choice for you, if you want to marry a Caucasian, and for whatever reason don't want to marry a North American.

Personally I have a pro-Caucasian stance which means I support white, Arab, and Persian rights. So I date entirely within that principle. In fact, some people consider Persians white which would make tihs a non issue.

Of course, if some other white men here date white women, that's absolutely fine and that's great. But be aware there are alternative choices even for white men who hold "racist" views or are racially aware.

Cheers and thanks for your reply. I don't mean to push my views, just giving a reply to Rebajlo.

 

[Rebajlo]

I strongly prefer Middle Eastern women to white women, and even if white women were conservative I would still choose a Middle Eastern wife. I find Middle Eastern women better looking. As I said, I consider them Caucasian and possibly white, and that's good enough for me.

BoxingSpecialist2 -

That's the key sentence. Anyway, let's just agree to disagree (by the way, I actually hate hackneyed phrases... :icon_wink