LSU issue

[Sean Carlisle]

DE Al Jones changed his name to some muslim name over the summer and converted. Now he is having meetings with the chancelor and the athletic director protesting LSU fans bringing and waving purple and gold stars and bars Confederate battle flags at the home games at Tiger Stadium.

I am afraid they may end up banning the flags from the stadium and campus. Historically the Fighting Tigers were a unit in the Confederacy from Louisiana and were noted for their fierce skills in battling the better outfitted and higher numbered Union soldiers. LSU's nickname is based on the old unit. They are trying to kill our heritage.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Sounds familiar to what happened in Oxford, Mississippi between 1983-97. One thing is for sure, they can ban all flags of certain sizes, the sticks you fly them on, but they can't single that one out and ban it. The Constitution gets in the way of that. They discourage people from flying them in the Grove and other tailgaiting areas, but they can't make you take it down.

 

[Triad]

Sounds familiar to what happened in Oxford, Mississippi between 1983-97.

After they discontinued playing Dixie, discouraged all Civil War paraphernalia, and tried to give Colonel Reb an absurd makeover they lost my support. Unfortunately, they timed many of the changes to coincide with the success of Eli Manning so the fans whined a little but kept selling out the games.

All it takes is one liberal administrator to change everything if the fans don't stand up. Rebels were told the school's image was hurting the recruitment of the black athlete. Now they need to identify what factor is hurting the recruitment of the white athlete.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Ole Miss disassociated itself from the Confederate battle flag in 1983, under Chancellor Gerald Turner, but fans still brought thousands of their own flags until 1997, when the stick ban went into affect. They had previously reduced the size of flags allowed in the stadium to 12" x 18". In 1989, the Senior class adopted the "Battle M" flag to replace the Confederate Battle flag, but they never caught on like the administration hoped. Triad is right, Chancellor Robert Khayat, and a few liberals in charge at Ole Miss were the ones who got rid of it in the 1990's. Colonel Reb was made over in 1997 as well, a change that didn't go over too well either. They took him off the sidelines before the 2003 season began. That's why my screen name is at it is. It is a protest against the PC disease that has fully infected the school I used to love.

 

[Deus Vult]

One of the reasons I despise Tommy Tuberville so is that as Head Coach at Ole Miss he was very outspoken about the "need" to ban Confederate symbols. Where the hell did he think he was? Ole Miss, where the mascot is, *ahem*, THE REBELS!

Earlier this week, I heard some ESPN radio dickhead named Kincaid ragging on the South and the Flag. He mentioned that the NCAA and the NAACP (will they make the merger official?) are going to choke South Carolina into submission by banning post-season NCAA activities in that state -- until the Confederate Flag comes dwon off the statehouse.

 

[white tornado]

I own a battle flag and fly it on occasion and it makes me mad how liberals are trying to ban it. On the other hand do you want the flag and the rebal forces being represented by a thuged out football team.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Good point white tornado. My thought is that the more the flag gets marginalized and is less visible, the more attacks there will be on it. I don't have a problem flying it over a majority black football team because there were a lot of black Confederates, but I do have a problem when those players are as ignorant and thuggish as many of these new black players are. I brought the flag into the stadium until the last game I saw there. I always saw the flag as a tribute to the University Greys, a Confederate unit made entirely of Ole Miss students. They suffered 100% casualties at Gettysburg. That's where the name "Rebels" comes from. The thought was that these players had ties to them as students of Ole Miss and as participants in a struggle, albeit on the gridiron. The current administration and some students don't want to remember the sacrifices of Confederates and have turned their backs on the flag. I can tell you about the many black Ole Miss fans who have waved the flag over the years, and Elston Turner, who took the flag from one of the cheerleaders in 1981 and ran around the basketball coliseum with it after his team won the 1981 SEC basketball tournament. Liberals use the flag as a patsy for other ills that will never be solved. Few people are left who defend the Confederate battle flag and they are able to attack it at will. If the NAACP had not have brought it up in the 80's, they would have folded.

 

[Bronk]

I can still recall seeing the Ole Miss stands being full of Confederate battle flags. I always liked the Rebs for that reason (among others).

I went to a high school named for Robert E. Lee and our fans were always waving Rebel flags. That tradition has gradually played out now that the majority of the students there are illgeal Mexicans. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't renamed the place in honor of Ceasar Chavez or some such sum'bitch.

 

[Triad]

Imagine sitting in a stadium full of Rebel flags and watch the football team run out through a smoky tunnel led out on the field with a giant rebel flag waving with the band playing "Dixie". That was a home Ole Miss game in the 1980's.

 

[whiteCB]

The school just north of me used to have a Rebel flag on their helmets(keep in mind they were and still are called the Rebels) but in the 90s they changed the logo to a little white guy with a flag in his hand like the Col. from Looney toons. This is up in Ohio too so its amazing how long the flag lasted.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

The PC police took over in the late 1980's as far as the Confederate battle flag is concerned. There have been very few people willing to stand up and defend it since then. It has become something to distance ones' self from as far as possible, even in the South. Most people have been brainwashed into thinking it is the embodiment of all things bad, and the reason for many of them. Kind of the same way that majority white sports (or anythings) are treated.