Kovalev V Ward

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    Agreed. It was just the headline, considering the source, that attracted me.
     
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    I will answer for Larry Merchant. 1. GGG 2. Kovalev 3. Chocolatitito 4. Lomochenko 5. Ward.
     
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    In the prelim Perez vs Hooker fight, negro judge Robert Hoyle, hometown Las Vegas, NV:

    http://boxrec.com/person/401536

    gave the fight to Hooker 97-93.

    Las Vegas is probably the crookedest place in the world for boxing, just ahead of Grozny. It's the crookedest city in the world, founded and funded and run by the Mafia with one thought in mind - fleece the suckers. No foreign fighter should ever fight there - but then they pay the big bucks. Fights in LV are as fixed as their "gaming" machines.
     
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    Just viewed BSPN's PFP ranking. Shockingly they maintained some integrity and listed Kovalev at No. 3. with Ward at No. 4. The top four are 1. Chocolatitio, 2. GGG, 3. Kovalev and 4. Ward.

    But Dan Rafael lists Ward above Kovalev in the Light Heavyweight rankings? Rafael just signed a new multi year contract with BSPN. I suppose he got marching orders from the failing multi cult sports network.
     
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    Charlie Hammer, what a great find! Three cheers to you for posting this. By the way, you may not believe this, but the fighters do read sites like boxingscene, boxrec, etc. If you have an account on either site, please post this there as much as you can. Eventually Kovalev's team will view it.

    About the fight, the narrator repeats what we said here many times after the fight; that is, that those slaps and taps while holding an arm, or simply holding, are not to be counted as punches though of course Compubox did count them and STILL Kovalev out shot him. Can you imagine if they didn't count that crap? Ward is what I said he is, a limited fighter with medium level skill. He is NOT the light heavyweight champion.
     
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    Great blow by blow analysis of the fight! Kovalev won every round or at the very least all but three.



     
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    Dwyer's analysis, along with "Precise Presenter's in the video above, are the two best. This Las Vegas decision needs to be challenged and reviewed.


     
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    A week later, after not viewing the fight and scoring it on the HBO replay, I scored it 117-113 for Kovalev. Kellerman tonight , also had a moment of clarity and scored the fight 114-113 for Kovalev. If there is a rematch. NY City with 2 Russian judges or in Russia with a single Russian judge. I can only hope. Kovalev's management needs to pull their heads out of their a**s.
     
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    Very generous for Ward. But still good.
     
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    Too generous to Ward by at least one round. At least.
     
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    Just checked BSPN's rankings. Looks like Dan Rafael is allowing himself to be the puppet of his network. He ranks Ward right above Kovalev, even though he has stated emphatically that Kovalev beat Ward! How does he square that? He can't. Disappointing. Rafael has lost a lot of credibility with me. Really thought he would put his thoughts to paper. He chose to bow down.
     
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    He needs his employment first West. He takes his orders from those above him who have to stay on message.
     
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    I will never respect him as much as before the robbery of Kovalev. Its really astounding how Ward can even remotely believe he won and show his face. F'n fraud in that fight.
     
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    Yes great breakdown of Ward's dirty tactics. The guy's contempt for Ward is entertaining.
     
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    We all know here Ward took the beating in his fake "win" over Kovalev. I wrote after the fight that the silver lining in Kovalev's loss was that he put a great amount of wear and tear on Ward the kind of which changes a man forever. Every fighter that ever faced Kovalev fared worse ever after. A day after the fight Kovalev looked as though he had been on vacation; Ward is still resting and recovering from his beating.

    Today we learn Ward may retire. Kathy Duva comments:

     
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    The biggest robbery in a long time. Even quite a few blacks are saying Kovalev won. Anytime that happens you know the deal. Ward is so full of bs and for him to claim he won and now retire is pathetic even for this loser.
     
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    Ward, knows he will be beaten silly in the rematch. Its a no brainer. He knows he lost the first fight.
     
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    That's the truth. I saw the interview with Kovalev the day after the fight and he looked like he had been on vacation!
     
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    Blacks in disbelief, their all time living hero (Mayweather) says Kovalev beat Ward, that Ward needs a new trainer, and Hunter is not a top trainer because he never fought. Mayweather broke their code, that is, that blacks never say publicly a white beat a black. So funny to read their whining posts.

    http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=733784&page=6
     

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