Jonas Jerebko - White Thunder

[Deadlift]

White man on the Pistons. He just had a huge game.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3998

Edited by: Deadlift

 

[Doc Holliday]

Yup, he's white. Born & raised in Sweden. Both his parents were basketball players & are both listed as Swedish. His parents still live in the country side of Sweden.

 

[Deadlift]

Thanks.

Yeah, he looked White (nose, lips and skull), but I've heard CF posters talk about the black Pistons so I was a little uncertain.

 

[Fightingtowin]

I pointed out his unique athleticism in another thread. He plays a lot like Dennis Rodman on defense and on the boards. Jerebko can actually guard the 1-5 (depending on who the PG and Center is). I don't know if another player in the NBA has his versatility on defense.

On offense he can hit the three, runs the floor and gets a lot of junk baskets because of his athletic ability and hustle. Right now the rest of his offensive game is pretty unpolished, but you can tell the potential is there to become a much better scorer.

He is currently starting in place of the injured Tayshaun Prince, thus his minutes will go down when he comes back. However, the Pistons have indicated that he'll likely be the first big man off the bench, because they also use him at PF and Center.

In regards to the Pistons, although they have been pretty coal black I don't think Joe Dumars is anti-white. He drafted Darko, drafted Okur but couldn't resign him because of a since changed salary cap rule I believe, had Jon Barry and Bobby Sura play key roles, gave Delfino and Carlos Arroyo a lot of chances, gave Walter Herman many opportunities while often commenting on his athleticism and now drafted Jerebko who he gushes over quite a bit. Moreover, he specifically picked up Darko, Delfino, Herman and Jerebko because of their athletic ability, which shows right there he's less inclined to stereotype a white player than most executives.

If things worked out differently, the Pistons would have Okur and Darko starting in their front court, with Delfino getting significant minutes, and be considered a pretty pro-white team.Edited by: Fightingtowin

 

[Fightingtowin]

he just got his first double-double against the Hawks, with 10 points and 11 rebounds.

 

[j41181]

Jerebko's game is reminiscent to that of Tayshaun Prince, Andrei Kirilenko, and yes...even some Rodman. Dude is not even shy of taking the 3-point shot!

He just needs to polish his overall game (offense & defense) and his FT's.

Joe Dumars is a good team president, he knows talent when he sees one (White or Black). The reason why players like Jerebko (most likely) could never stick in Detroit is either the salary-cap contract issues (Okur), or the coaching (Larry Brown, Flip Suanders). Let's hope it does not happen though to Jerebko.

BTW, Jerebko looks a bit like Chris Andersen! Without the funky hair, and wild tattoos, that is.

 

[white tornado]

Chris Andersens father is Danish so they both have scandinavian blood.

 

[GreatLakeState]

Lots of Pistons fans now want to trade Tayshawn and keep the Jonas Brotha starting, he has a real Bad Boy style game. In game against Mavs, he stopped Jason Kidd then Dirk on consecutive possessions, not going to happen too often.

Larry Brown never gave Memo a chance. There was one post-game tv interview back then when Ben Wallace wore Okur's warmup on backwards so his name was showing, in protest of LB giving him no clock. Telling what kind of guy Memo is, when he got married in Turkey nearly all the Pistons flew out there.

 

[Fightingtowin]

Lots of Pistons fans now want to trade Tayshawn and keep the Jonas Brotha starting, he has a real Bad Boy style game. In game against Mavs, he stopped Jason Kidd then Dirk on consecutive possessions, not going to happen too often.

Larry Brown never gave Memo a chance. There was one post-game tv interview back then when Ben Wallace wore Okur's warmup on backwards so his name was showing, in protest of LB giving him no clock Telling what kind of guy Memo is, when he got married in Turkey nearly all the Pistons flew out there.

I didn't know about the Memo story, but I'm not surprised. I sometimes see comments alleging that black players would never support white players, especially if it's going to take away their playing time. Yet I saw the exact opposite in Detroit for years. Since Okur played center he would have directly taken Ben Wallace's playing time. And they didn't just support Okur, but publicly complained multiple times about the lack of playing time given to Darko. That may not be the norm, but it definitely happens.

By the way, have you seen Okur's wife? Wow!

 

[GreatLakeState]

Yeah, doesn't help Ben's rep as a coach-killer, but in this case he was right.

Haven't seen Memo's wife, but at that time seem to recall she was a model or something. Way to not mess around, Mehmet!

 

[Fightingtowin]

Not to turn this into TMZ, but I'm sure nobody here will mind.

Edited by: Fightingtowin

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Defensively Rodman is like Jerebko. But offensively Rodman's game was only like Jerebko's near the basket with athletic tip-ins, layups off a rebound etc. Rodman couldn't shoot the 3-ball so Jerebko has more potential.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Speaking of the white/black issue aforementioned, some blacks- if fairness is one of their most important virtues- will campaign for playing time for a white if he is more talented (ie. Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard complimenting Redick often in his blog, Brandon Marshall) to help the team. It is often more the fault of jackass coaches, GMs, the media and DWFs- that don't give whites a fair shot though.

I think we often miss on an important sociological point here however. The NFL has large 53 man rosters with 8 other practice players, unlike a 15 maximum player NBA roster. Cliques form on an NFL team (sometimes racial) and the players can be partly to blame. In Denver, I wouldn't be surprised if Knowshon Moreno is a total punk and came in there thinking he was owed the starting job from day one. Jordan, Buckhalter and Knowshon are all newbies in Denver and Hillis is the only Shanahan holdover tailback. These three afroletes may agree with Dickerson that "RB is a black man's chosen position" and may have formed a comradeship as newbies in Denver.

I think McDaniels is the biggest culprit here though and I wouldn't be surprised if he immediately called Hillis into his office (once Moreno arrived in camp) and asked him to switch back to FB- which resulted in his 3rd argument with a player (this one unreported by the media) and got no support from the other 3 black tailbacks. If Mcditz plays Hillis now and he averages 6 YPC like he probably would, he'd look like the Mcfool that he is- so Hillis simply won't ever play (can't have his pride tarnished).

 

[GreatLakeState]

Jonas had sweet behind-back pass to Wallace for dunk yesterday, and another strong all-around game in win over Bucks.

Terry Foster in Detroit News is promoting trade of Tayshaun Prince for Chris Kaman, and leave Jonas as the starting 3.

 

[Fightingtowin]

His play-making improvement over the last several games has been incredible. I posted earlier that he really had no middle game: he could shoot threes or get junk around the basket. Whenever he tried to make a play it just looked ugly, although you could see some potential.

These past games though he has looked so smooth and confident. I think he was simply adjusting to the size, speed and strength of the NBA game and didn't really know what he could and couldn't get away with.

Now that he's figured it out he looks like a different player. I really look forward to watching his development.

Unfortunately, his minutes at SF will pretty much disappear when Prince and Hamilton come back, but I almost guarantee he'll be the first big man off the bench, ahead of Maxiel and Kwame Brown.

 

[Fightingtowin]

got another double double, with 10 points and 11 rebounds. Also led the team in minutes and made an unbelievable up and under reverse layup.

 

[Westside]

Fightingtowin great pic, who is that guy obstructing my view! LOL

 

[GreatLakeState]

Just saw fourth quarter of win against Washington (Bullets). The announcers called that layup something you would have seen from Dr. J, and it was the 'play of the game.' In just over two minutes of crunch time, Jonas had big rebound in traffic, stopped Caron Butler one-on-one and forced him into a turnover, and was fouled on a dunk attempt.

 

[Fightingtowin]

Fightingtowin great pic, who is that guy obstructing my view! LOL

What guy?

Edit: Upon further examination, I guess there is a guy in that pic. I never noticed before.

It's Mehmet Okur, who looks a lot skinnier than I thought he would. Edited by: Fightingtowin

 

[GreatLakeState]

Memo's only skinny in that pic because it's the summer, and he's not in the bars til 4 every night like he was during the season with "Uncle Cliff" Robinson!

 

[Fightingtowin]

Memo's only skinny in that pic because it's the summer, and he's not in the bars til 4 every night like he was during the season with "Uncle Cliff" Robinson!

Do you know for certain that he and Robinson used to stay out drinking late all the time together? My friend was going out with a Pistons cheerleader in 2003 and she said every player, 1-12 went to the bars and got dinner together, which I guess is unusual for an entire team. She said Billups, Hamilton, Bobby Sura and Corlis Williamson were the "cool" guys who everybody liked. She said Okur was constantly cracking jokes, being goofy. Said the same about Chucky Atkins. Said Ben Wallace would be at the bar and literally stand against the wall and not talk to anybody for 2-3 hours; the cheerleaders were all scared of him. Said Darko was kind of shy and awkward because of his age and language barrier. I forget if she said anything about anybody else. Apparently the cheerleaders hung out with the players a lot. I won't say who, but she claimed one of the players hooked up with about a quarter of the squad.Edited by: Fightingtowin

 

[GreatLakeState]

Oh no, not every night, that was exaggeration. But those were Memo's mentors, as it were, Ben on the court, Cliffy off ... the former being a better choice than the latter for sure.

But your story confirms what I knew about those Pistons teams, as NBA squads go they usually had pretty straight dudes. A few women have said the same thing about Ben, just fans who would see him out; wife had him on a short one, plus he's probably just not an affable partier. He'd rather be in his basement with r.c. trucks or lifting at the Virginia Union gym. Probably my all-time favorite NBA player.

 

[jaxvid]

But your story confirms what I knew about those Pistons teams, as NBA squads go they usually had pretty straight dudes. A few women have said the same thing about Ben, just fans who would see him out; wife had him on a short one, plus he's probably just not an affable partier. He'd rather be in his basement with r.c. trucks or lifting at the Virginia Union gym. Probably my all-time favorite NBA player.

Ben Wallace your all-time favorite NBA player???

figures...

 

[Fightingtowin]

Another double double. 17 pts, 10 rbs and a clutch jumper to go up by 2 with about 1:30 left. Iverson had a great game too against his former team. 3-10 shooting and 6 turnovers. Edited by: Fightingtowin

 

[GreatLakeState]

Hey, Jaxvid, how many Division I college coaches did you talk to today on behalf of white athletes? That's what I thought. How many white athletes have you secured Division I athletes for in the last year? No, now that figures. How many stories have you written in mainstream media publications, with your real name on them, supporting white athletes? Ever had any linked to American Renaissance and have special interest groups from across the country try to get you canned for it? Yeah, hmm. Another pussy hiding his keyboard. Kiss my 100 percent pure WASP ass.