Johnny Manziel

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  1. whiteathlete33

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    Who is the white receiver for A @ M that caught the pass a while ago that was ruled an incompletion because it hit the ground? Or is he a tight end?
     
  2. davidholly

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    No clue.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    lolol

    Bigunreal, we've been over this many times before. Your "theory" that every game not going the way you want it to, and that every bad break can only be explained by it being carefully scripted and rehearsed just to add to your already permanent state of negativity and doom and gloom, is not going to be allowed here. Consider this the only warning you're going to get this time around.
     
  4. bigunreal

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    Well, maybe I can do for Manziel what I've done for Tiger Woods.
     
  5. white lightning

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    The Aggies are within 7 points with 8.04 to go in the 4th quarter. Johnny Manziel has well over 400 yards passing with around 100 running the ball. Come on Johnny "Football"!
     
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  6. white lightning

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    Well the Aggies will lose today but Manziel was by far the most electricfying player on the field! The kid threw for 5 touchdowns and 465 yards passing while running for 98 yards! He is not out of the Heisman Race yet. I don't care if he had two interceptions. Five touchdowns and almost 500 yards against the number 1 ranked team in the nation speakes for itself. The Aggies defense on the other side could not make the key plays down the stretch.

    Manziel was magic even in the loss. He is the most exciting player in all of football on any level in my opinion. Tough loss by life will go on. This kid will come back even hungrier next week.

    Get on the Manziel bandwagon bigunreal. He will not disappoint you very often.
     
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  7. davidholly

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    Both Manziel and McCarron put this years overhyped black QBs to shame.
     
  8. bigunreal

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    Just caught a bit of the post game show, in which some white idiot "reporter" said, "Manziel should enjoy his time in the spotlight- I think he knows he is not going to be a big time player in the NFL."

    We are going to be hearing a lot of that up until Manziel enters the draft. After the numbers Manziel just put up against Alabama, THIS is what the corrupt media is saying?

    If only he had won....
     
  9. Westside

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    49 to 42 no route.
     
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    Lmao. That is such a great movie. Manziel is too good to be denied. I don't care what the media trys to do. They might just go Tonya Harding on the guy and break his legs. The only way to stop this kid. Great game by both qb's.
     
  12. Kaptain

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    Manziel's two interceptions were the difference in the game, but both passes were spot on. The first interception was a fade pattern in which his affletic receiver stopped fading and instead squared up with the ball in the air and back peddled. Totally the receivers fault and of course missed by the "experts" announcing the game as well as the ESPN talking heads.

    The second interception was return for a TD but it was also right on target. It was a back shoulder throw to #15 - a white receiver. As the receiver jumped to get the ball he was speared by a defender before the ball arrived. The ball bounced up and the air and was return for a long td. It was an egregious interference that was not called and once again the game announcers failed to mention what I thought was obvious and of course so did ESPN.

    See for yourself:

    [video=youtube;TsrVb_04FP4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsrVb_04FP4[/video]
     
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  13. davidholly

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    The receiver wasn't speared or interfered with, the DB was staring back at the ball the whole time. The receiver tried to make a jumping catch and collided with the DB as he was knocking the away. We need to stop acting like Manziel is perfect, he's human and makes mistakes sometimes.

    See for yourself....
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    DB is clearly focused on the ball...
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    Collides with the receiver after the ball has been batted away, wasn't a spear either.

    Not everything that goes against Manziel is because of ref bias. There were several bad calls that went against both teams in the game and A&M is hardly worth rooting for this year outside of Manziel.
     
  14. Kaptain

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    I'm not talking about "everything" going against Johnny Manziel nor am I talking about ref bias. I'm talking about two throws so please don't put words in my mouth.

    I disagree with your contention that the db was "staring back at the ball the whole time." For 99% of the route he was clearly in trail position with his turned to the receiver. He saw the receiver jump and like all dbs he quickly turned his head "not his body" half way around just before the collision in a attempt to avoid a pass interference flag. The ball hit him in the back of the head - he had no idea where the ball was. During and after the collision his feet and entire body are facing opposite the qb. The collision occurred well before the ball and there was no real attempt to make a play on the ball. The intention was to hit the receiver while quickly turning his head 1/2 way around and hope and pray a flag isn't thrown. That's interference.
     
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    I think it was a p.i. myself. It was close but I would have called pass interference. Back to the main point being that both intercetpions were critical unfortunantly. The first interception was returned for around 70 yards and led to a td for Alabama. The 2nd took away a sure td away from the Aggies since it happpend in the end zone. Worse case scenario the Aggies would have at least got a chip shot field goal. The Aggies win if you take away these two interceptions. It really sucks that it all came down to that but no one on earth can say he played horrible. Manziel was incredible as usual but just lost a close game do to a couple of small mistakes in an other wise great game of football. It happens and he will become an even better player because of it. No one is perfect and mistakes do happen. Look out next week. He will be on a mission for some revenge against the next team.
     
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    The second pick was a called play, an endzone fade pattern where the QB simply takes the snap and lobs the ball to a spot. It's up to the supa affletic receiver to make the play from there. The A&M receiver never even got his head turned, and worse than that, did nothing at the snap to misdirect the defender. Result, interception that cannot be put on Manziel.
     
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    I've noticed mixed feelings from black commentators (whom tend to carry a quite readable racial bias) regarding the likes on Manziel and Tebow (i.e. the white running quarterbacks). While certainly they are generally uninterested in rooting for a white player, they seem a bit ambivalent about these two. The reason is the following: They sense the job description of quarterback "evolving" into something that more closely fits what they see as a "black skill set." So in other words, there is some instinct on their part to root for a Manziel as he seems in a way to be "blackening" the position.

    One was likely to encounter a similar phenomena among black music aficionados when Elvis was emerging. Yes, blacks disliked what they viewed as yet another glorification of the white man, yet they sensed some value in something that further "blackened" the culture. Certainly, no doubt, they also viewed him as an inferior version of the "real deal." Hence, Eminem and Whiggerism (i.e. the entirely blackened and degraded white man or the white man as merely poser .i.e. inferior black man) they're more or less cool with. Of course, nothing will completely end their simmering resentment of whites no matter how "down" or debased whites become (as if appeasing blacks is more important than not being debased!).

    Returning to football: Nevertheless blacks are more or less forced to give props to the dominant classic pocket quarterback like Manning or Brady. And, in all honesty, they must sense their particular skill set as a white specialty or "magic" that one of their numbers is unlikely to replicate. Certainly it is better, in their view, that a consensus be reached that the running quarterback is the future. And they are quite comfortable with the idea that such a change would come about for no other reason than the running quarterback is more "dynamic" and entertaining, even if he is typically, in real terms, less potent as a player capable of leading his team to victory. The notion of the running quarterback represents a decline in the nature of the quarterback position and a weakening of the order and team aspect of the sport. It is not dissimilar to the decline of the jump shot and team play in basketball.

    This is a nuance that adds a wrinkle to the commentary of black sportscasters regarding Manziel et al.

    Having said all this: It is entertaining as hell having a white player beat them on their own terms in their own style.
     
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    Great post Gibbon. I have noticed this as well regarding the bull**** talk of the evolution of the QB position. When they talk about athletic QBs being the future of the position it is pure caste spreak for blacks. It is blatantly obvious how the media is pushing the black QB agenda. Just like every other position they try to adjust and modify perceptions until the majority accepts them to be truth.
     
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    Quarterback will never be a running position, unless they change the rules to those of flag football and have the QBs wear skirts. There's never been a black running quarterback that had a long and successful career. Randall Cunningham was the closest and he was always erratic, never in the top tier of quarterbacks.

    What do you notice about the NFL during the first two weeks of the 2013 season? All, and I mean all, the black QBs are running less and trying to become better pocket quarterbacks. And the results have been poor thus far. Warren Moon remains the only black QB who was a great pocket passer, which is why I'm not overly concerned about the latest black QB craze, though admittedly it is being force-fed noticeably more than ever before and the sheer numbers of black college QBs hyped by the Caste System and its corporate media arm may force a blackening of the position. Hell, even ridiculous numbers of refs and officiating crew members are black now, to go along with all the black assistant coaches one sees on the sidelines, and the almost mandatory black announcer in the booth or on the sideline. Quarterback is bound to sooner or later be part of the system's endless foisting of affirmative action blacks on the masses in every conceivable manner possible -- except of course at the executive and ownership level. After all, privilege does have its hypocritical perks.
     
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    Strong post; totally agree.

    Manziel seems to be a bailout for DWFs, blacks, and Big Fans to anoint the "dual threat" quarterback as the true evolution of the position. This way, their lists of all the "top" young quarterbacks are not totally black, because that would be awkward. If they can toss in a white guy, it looks a little less egregious.

    And yet... it is still fun to watch a white guy do it better.
     
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    I have to disagree with what you said. I work with alot of black guys and everyone of them says Manziel is overrated and he has very little or not talent. They also say he is not fit to play on Sundays in the NFL. They say he is no good just like Tebow who they equally hate. I can try to debate or argue with them but their mind is set. Even alot of the dwf types at work think Johnny Football sucks. They hate him and it makes no sense. There is nothing that Manziel could do to change their mind. It's like when Christian Laettner led Duke to back to back national championships in basketball, most dwf's hated his guts and they still hate Duke and every other college that plays a majority white roster. That is the day in age we are living in.

    I've said it before and I will say it again. If they screw Manziel, I'm done with football period!!
     
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    The dual threat quarterback is the only way we still have a chance of ever seeing white run the ball and prove they can run the ball thus increasing their acceptance as runningbacks. I embrace the dual threat quarterback trend because the best dual threat quarterbacks have always been and will always be white.
    The problem is the PTB - the media, DWFS, and the you know whose open campaign against every single white dual threat quarterback. They want to quickly blacken the position so as to make yet another position in the NFL a no-go zone for whites.

    And lets face it, there really has been a "dual" threat black quarterback in the history of the NFL because part of the "dual" threat is passing and everyone of them has failed in the category. On the other hand, I can name several dual threat white quarterbacks that have been huge successes and some are even in the hall of fame. We absolutely need more dual threat quarterbacks in order to save the sport for us, but it's going to be a tough battle against the usual suspects and how their mind control over public opinion.
     
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    It's always interested me how every new wave of quotabacks is compared to Cunningham or Vick. NEVER to Warren Moon, who is easily the best black QB to ever play. His name is never mentioned for comparison. He didn't "make plays with his feet" enough, I guess. The DWFs are enchanted with the idea of the mobile QB.
     
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    I was primarily referring to sports commentators (whom, as mentioned, still regard a player like Manziel as an inferior version of an ideal type). Naturally the further you get away from a tv lens the more blacks will unabashedly despise anything white. After all, your typically black is unable to and has less reason to make even the very USEFUL diplomatic concessions a black sportscaster might. Nevertheless my post also mentions the well known phenomena of blacks becoming jealous when a white seems to dominate a "black niche". This is the accurate supposition of nearly every post on this forum. The interesting point is the concessions that blacks seem to make.

    Another phenomena, related: in rap songs, blacks will occasionally make reference to white icons in a positive or glorifying light (i.e. "I'm a terminator like arnold schwarzenegger", "is your game MVP like Steve Nash"). Granted, these lyrics aren't emanating in every case from the most gansta or hardcore "artists" but nevertheless...This is largely an instinct for diplomacy and a desire for a larger audience i.e. a greater will to power (again a USEFUL diplomatic concession).

    The bottom line is that without interested white audience members, without white dollars subsidizing football, rap music, entertainment, politics and public life in general, without the adulation of the white audience member (and the corresponding attention of white women) the black will to power is sunk and blacks become a much more obscure and less powerful people. Thus they are obliged to make some diplomatic concessions to keep whites interested and to keep themselves on the only meaningful stage (i.e. "the white world"). Magic Johnson's continuos praise of his rival Larry Bird is an example of it (even Charles Barkely's observation that white ball players are no longer as tough as Larry Bird is an example). And blacks are especially eager to make these concessions when they see something additionally useful in them (i.e. the "blackening" of a prominent role in society.) Would they have wished Bill Clinton was actually "the first black president"? Certainly. But it's obvious they enjoyed the ways that he "blackened" the role.
     

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